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ryde posted:They’re still called “frames” and typically used fixed steps which means the frame rate is a meaningful thing to talk about with regards to the server. It does not imply that they have some weird LAN setup. Allow me to introduce you to a company called "CIG". 
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Ghostlight posted:Describing any reference in Ready Player One as "substantial" would be a gross overstatement. Call of Duty AND Modern Warfare? This guy aint loving around!
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Apr 5, 2018 11:36
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Sandweed posted:Isn't his books just about being a pedantic know it all fanboy? Pretty much. Remember that nostalgic thing, yeah that one, wow! Nostalgia is so cool, let me just list off pop culture references and hope you, the spectator, get it.
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Apr 5, 2018 11:39
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Lawsuit Update https://drive.google.com/file/d/1u_j_BhX5NWUcwNdj8Ud-Oy3NYN0-srkg/view  vs. Harmony Gold
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Apr 5, 2018 11:43
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Roberts is a perfectionist. The problem is that he's also a narcissist with terrible taste that hasn't had an original thought in decades. He's the greatest turd polisher in the history of game development. He really isn't a perfectionist. SC is proof enough of that, and his whole back catalogue. He's some form of control freak, attempting to control things he really has not got a handle on, and so he fucks around the edges with his endless "visions" and art loving, because he really does not know what else to do. On some level he knows that.
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Apr 5, 2018 11:46
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Experimental Skin posted:He really isn't a perfectionist. SC is proof enough of that, and his whole back catalogue. This is accurate. For someone to be a perfectionist there has to be some kind of objective idea of what constitutes perfect. A guy painting a house might be trying to cut the edges too closely and taking hours and hours on parts of the house barely even visible unless someone walks up with measuring instruments. That guy is the kind of person you'd tell "dude it doesn't have to be perfect." Chris is the opposite. He has a very vague idea of how he wants things to look, even less of an idea of how he wants it to play, and those ideas are cribbed from half-formed memories of things he's seen other people already do. He can't give effective direction because he doesn't know what he's looking for, and therefore can't communicate it. He just "knows it when he sees it" so he has his artists do it over and over and over again, until it finally feels "right" to him. This is then referred to as "perfectionism" by the morons who defend him.
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Apr 5, 2018 11:58
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Citizen: The reason SC is delayed is that Chris is a perfectionist and don't want to release a flawed product! That's why 3.0 was delayed a whole year. *Roberts walks inn drops his pants and squeezes out a huge turd* Here it is, 3.0 is here! *Citizen smears himself with the poo poo* Now this is perfection.
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Apr 5, 2018 12:14
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Experimental Skin posted:He really isn't a perfectionist. SC is proof enough of that, and his whole back catalogue. I guess I see that as being a perfectionist. A control freak who has no regard for cost or consequence. Perhaps a perfectionist requires a coherent and stable vision, but at least in my own art (painting tiny Space Barbies) it's hard to know when it's done until it is. Maybe the difference is because a lot of people consider the label of "perfectionist" to have some positive connotation, while I consider it something you fight against. Chris embraces it and uses it to justify all manners of lovely behavior and poor practices. Ultimately we probably agree on 99% of this, just not the term itself.
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Apr 5, 2018 12:20
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Apr 5, 2018 12:21
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What the world really needs to see is the custom ship they built exclusively for Robberts, and how much time and resources went into it.
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Apr 5, 2018 12:22
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Sandweed posted:Citizen: The reason SC is delayed is that Chris is a perfectionist and don't want to release a flawed product! That's why 3.0 was delayed a whole year. Chris drops the turd to amazing fanfare, runs behind a curtain, then spends
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Apr 5, 2018 12:23
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Scruffpuff posted:For someone to be a perfectionist there has to be some kind of objective idea of what constitutes perfect.
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Apr 5, 2018 12:25
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Ghostlight posted:That's an insane definition because any qualitative evaluation of anything is by nature purely subjective. For example, Star Citizen is *already* perfect and well worth the hundreds of dollars spent to many crazy people.
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Apr 5, 2018 12:33
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Ghostlight posted:That's an insane definition because any qualitative evaluation of anything is by nature purely subjective. That's especially true in any artistic endeavor, such as, I don't know, game development, which makes the assertion even more absurd, even if it wasn't Chris the word was being applied to.
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Apr 5, 2018 12:35
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Peter.Quint posted:Or maybe just not given quite so much poo poo. I think a lot of the stuff on here written about the warlord is disproportionately rude, cruel at times as well. I don't see anyone else using their real names and putting themselves and their careers up for public judgement. The guy brags about filtering out the SA community, and those who he hasn't blocked he laughs as he says, "lol didn't read". Anyone else would have been banned already for no effort 'jokes'. Who gives a gently caress about your real name when this stage is for trying to promote comedy.
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Apr 5, 2018 12:56
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Perfectionism isn't really about striving for perfection. It's being self-critical about everything that you do because it never meets your standard. It's a behaviour that causes a lot of depression and anxiety. I don't think it's really fair to ascribe psychological labels to public figures because we don't actually see how they behave 99% of the time. He doesn't come across as a perfectionist on camera, but he might be good at putting on a cool demeanour when it's needed. From the bits we've seen and historical anecdotes, he seems like a control freak whose priorities change on a whim. But that might be because he comes off on camera as intense, nitpicky and addled. He could as easily be a psychologically normal person who is simply a terrible manager. I don't know where exactly the 'Chris is a perfectionist' thing came from, but fans like to push it because his perfectionism is 'on record'. It isn't a subjective judgement that you can argue about. It explains the negative aspects of the project without detriment. Sure it's delayed forever and requires lots of extra work, but it's going to be the best thing ever because the bar is set so high. There really is no need to psychologically profile Chris because the results speak for themselves.
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Apr 5, 2018 12:58
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Tokamak posted:I don't know where exactly the 'Chris is a perfectionist' thing came from I do. It's a pathological need to defend the indefensible. Chris is the core reason (though hardly the only one) that the project failed, and the core reason his earlier projects failed. Painting it as him being "a perfectionist" makes it sound like he's too good for this cruel world, rather than the more accurate picture that he's an inept thumb. It also diverts attention away from his ineptitude and makes it about word definitions instead, like it did ITT.
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Apr 5, 2018 13:01
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Scruffpuff posted:I do. It's a pathological need to defend the indefensible. Chris is the core reason (though hardly the only one) that the project failed, and the core reason his earlier projects failed. Painting it as him being "a perfectionist" makes it sound like he's too good for this cruel world, rather than the more accurate picture that he's an inept thumb. It also diverts attention away from his ineptitude and makes it about word definitions instead, like it did ITT. I'm agree. It becomes subjective and diversionary when you focus on the term. At least in this thread we all agree he's incompetent and that this is all his fault, so the discussion is about how to label that incompetence. Elsewhere the notion of being a perfectionist would be used as a justification for the delays. Here it's, at best, another condemnation.
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Apr 5, 2018 13:08
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Scruffpuff posted:I do. It's a pathological need to defend the indefensible. Chris is the core reason (though hardly the only one) that the project failed, and the core reason his earlier projects failed. Painting it as him being "a perfectionist" makes it sound like he's too good for this cruel world, rather than the more accurate picture that he's an inept thumb. It also diverts attention away from his ineptitude and makes it about word definitions instead, like it did ITT. Wise and astute answer, one I agree with.
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Apr 5, 2018 13:10
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Chris is such a coding guru that he couldn't fix a CTD on Exit so he just modified the message it displayed. That should be all you need to know to know Chris is a loving hack.
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Apr 5, 2018 13:12
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I'm agree. It becomes subjective and diversionary when you focus on the term. At least in this thread we all agree he's incompetent and that this is all his fault, so the discussion is about how to label that incompetence. Elsewhere the notion of being a perfectionist would be used as a justification for the delays. Here it's, at best, another condemnation. Exactly. I don't mind getting into the occasional spergy discussion about word definitions here on SA, because we all know it's just a side-discussion, and doesn't detract from what we all already know. That's a big difference between the quality of the posters on this dead gay comedy forum and other places I've been. In those other places, the side discussion actually becomes the main discussion, and "winning" on the word definition is incorrectly regarded as winning the argument. This is the same mentality backers use to believe that Crytek will lose in court because some Perry Mason poo poo is going to go on in the courtroom, and CIG will bury them under technicalities. "No, your honor, that was Robert Space Industries, ergo case dismissed." "No, your honor, they were pledges, quid pro quo." "No, your honor, the PU was technically released, so we have delivered, e pluribus unum." I guess it makes sense, when you think about it, that the most deluded members of Chris's cult believe Hollywood movies accurately reflect the real world, just like Chris does. Scruffpuff fucked around with this message at 13:16 on Apr 5, 2018 |
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I would like to remind everyone that despite his crazy go nuts stuff, Derek has performed an important public service by raising awareness of CIG's shenanigans, which has prevented at least some people from being fooled and buying in. Without Derek's antics to draw my attention to the problems, I have a feeling that I'd have spent sixty or seventy American dollars to buy the game. More important than saving me a little money, Derek has done my pride a favor; silly as it might be, I take some genuine comfort in being a never-backed rather than a saw-the-light. So I appreciate Derek, even if he says and does bonkers things on the internet. It's not like he's the only one. 
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Scruffpuff posted:That's especially true in any artistic endeavor, such as, I don't know, game development, which makes the assertion even more absurd, even if it wasn't Chris the word was being applied to. Unless I'm mistaken, then, you're suggesting that it's impossible for an artist to be a perfectionist which doesn't seem quite right to me
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Scruffpuff posted:Exactly. It's true. Our echo chamber is vastly superior to theirs.
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Jason Sextro posted:Unless I'm mistaken, then, you're suggesting that it's impossible for an artist to be a perfectionist which doesn't seem quite right to me That's my response to Ghostlight's quote: Ghostlight posted:That's an insane definition because any qualitative evaluation of anything is by nature purely subjective. Where I'm basically agreeing that the idea of something being perfect is impossible with regard to something like an artistic endeavor. No two people will agree on what constitutes perfect art. The artist himself, who owns the idea and who is expressing it, can certainly have an idea of what is perfect. Chris is not an artist. Chris does not have an idea. Chris cannot express anything except how he saw something "pretty cool" in a movie once.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Chris is such a coding guru that he couldn't fix a CTD on Exit so he just modified the message it displayed. Hey, buddy, a shortcut is quicker Don't you know anything?
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Scruffpuff posted:That's my response to Ghostlight's quote: Right. Chris is not an artist, and I'm sure he sees himself as no mere artist. He's a black turtleneck-wearing auteur.
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Danknificent posted:I would like to remind everyone that despite his crazy go nuts stuff, Derek has performed an important public service by raising awareness of CIG's shenanigans, which has prevented at least some people from being fooled and buying in. Indeed. I choose to bite the hand that feeds poor posting habits however. If that hand feeds refunding habits, I have no qualm with it. Derek, like many, has two hands.
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Jason Sextro posted:Right. Chris is not an artist, and I'm sure he sees himself as no mere artist. He's a black turtleneck-wearing auteur. Well he did make Wing Commander. Or at least was peripherally involved. At some level. That places him above mere mortal judgement.
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Scruffpuff posted:Well he did make Wing Commander. Or at least was peripherally involved. At some level. That places him above mere mortal judgement. By edict, he's the main creative driver of WC. Make no mistakes, he can make a very simple game with a very simple plot. His vision and talent in the 90s/2000s seemed to be "I can take these video games' weaknesses and strengthen them by making them plot-driven, immersive stories like movies." That's not enough today. Potato Salad fucked around with this message at 13:42 on Apr 5, 2018 |
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trucutru posted:Which reminds me: Have you guys called your parents lately? That's cool. I texted my dad a few times yesterday and called my granddad last week. Does that count?
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Drunk Theory posted:Let's be honest at this point a large portion of this group will never see the light of day. 
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Jason Sextro posted:Unless I'm mistaken, then, you're suggesting that it's impossible for an artist to be a perfectionist which doesn't seem quite right to me There is a difference between striving for perfection and reaching it. As an artist, if you hit perfection then you are done. (And more likely other people are going to think it's poo poo)
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Potato Salad posted:By edict, he's the main creative driver of WC. Make no mistakes, he can make a very simple game with a very simple plot. Very simple would be an apt description. Chris is basically at the complexity, and maturity, level of an 80's Choose Your Own Adventure book, but with fewer pages and only one branching choice.
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DapperDon posted:Everything is Racist. I did not expect *that* from the Lego Movie sequel.
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Hav posted:Wow racist. Mike Cernovitch is indeed Speaking of sovereign online states, can I leave Port Olisar's spawn pod with a thousand-dollar computer at better than 11 FPS now?
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Scruffpuff posted:Where I'm basically agreeing that the idea of something being perfect is impossible with regard to something like an artistic endeavor. No two people will agree on what constitutes perfect art. That's because you're mistaking subjective judgement for intrinsic value, and that's usually a fairly dangerous road to go down, mainly because art follows fashions and to a certain extent what money needs laundering at any particular time. One of the thing impressed on me at art college was that eventually you're going to get into the tweaking stage where you, as the parent, want to keep loving with it, so the first things they make you do is get into the habit of knocking out sketches in 90 seconds or less. Same for Photography; you can compose a shot all you like, but the magic happens in the gaps that you cannot control. This is slightly different from what we have from the Renaissance because that was mostly driven by patronage, but trust me, *mountains* of old masters got painted over by students to recycle canvases. Now, 'perfectionist' tends to get throw out there to justify people who get into the details. I've never met anyone for whom the word 'perfectionist' wasn't a cover for 'pedantic rear end in a top hat'. Jobs was a pedantic rear end in a top hat, for example. Scruffpuff posted:Chris is not an artist. Chris does not have an idea. Chris cannot express anything except how he saw something "pretty cool" in a movie once. Chris has been recycling WWII movies that we both grew up watching on Sunday afternoons. Seriously, the 1940-65 war movie output is a rich source of storytelling only eclipsed by some of the contemporaneous books of the era. The carrier operations were directly out of Pacific fleet. Jason Sextro posted:He's a black turtleneck-wearing auteur. 
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Kharan posted:Hello! Hello, new friend. Kharan posted:As a trivia, I played BC:M for a while, didn't fully get it but understood why some people did. I posted about some z-fighting graphic bugs to Derek in some god forsaken message board. He probably thought you were a German auditor.
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Potato Salad posted:Mike Cernovitch is indeed i hope the chuds in sc recreate Von Ormy in sc. https://www.texasobserver.org/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-freest-little-city-in-texas/ this is the funniest story ever
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