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St Evan Echoes posted:company has been crowing about how amazing the new building is going to be, every conceivable facility for 450 people over 3 floors how many bathrooms it have?
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there's probably enough, but none on the middle floor for some reason
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carry on then posted:how many bathrooms it have? more than the 3 in our current building
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double lol at one meeting room between 450 people.
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has anyone else noticed that recruiter contacts seem to come in waves? late last year to maybe january my linkedin has been pretty quiet and now it's been exploding over the past two months even though i haven't done anything. new budget so everyone is suddenly hiring again?
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Apr 6, 2018 16:55
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No one hires over the holidays and budget approvals are rolling in come springtime
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qhat posted:double lol at one meeting room between 450 people. Its cool, teams will just have meetings in their work area. The office is no doubt open so other teams will get to listen in, this increases collaboration.
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ADINSX posted:Its cool, teams will just have meetings in their work area. And productivity for sure.
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ADINSX posted:Its cool, teams will just have meetings in their work area. this is way too real for me.
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Apr 6, 2018 18:01
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people need to receive peopleware as mandatory reading
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PokeJoe posted:No one hires over the holidays and budget approvals are rolling in come springtime springtime is also post-bonus season, so it is the peak moment for people to leave their jobs
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St Evan Echoes posted:company has been crowing about how amazing the new building is going to be, every conceivable facility for 450 people over 3 floors
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Gazpacho posted:What's the nominal capacity of the meeting room? they have “collaboration spaces” which have room for about 4 people, also no doors
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Apr 6, 2018 18:37
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they made about half of our "huddle rooms" worthless by putting in lounge chairs and no tables lmao
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:springtime is also post-bonus season, so it is the peak moment for people to leave their jobs
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The Leck posted:lol we lost >5% of the office in the month after bonus payouts this year I fully expect this to happen at my current place. our bonuses come out in about a month everyone I know well enough to talk to outside of work is at least casually looking for other jobs, and I suspect several of the ones I don't know well enough to trust me with that info only exceptions are a dude who's like 3 years away from being able to retire, and a guy with a super high bus factor on multiple products and can therefore pretty much do anything he wants
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interview with startup B went pretty well (I think), will have a decision by Tuesday, and then interview with startup A on Wednsday the deeper into this job hunt i go, the less i want to leave my current team, i think its going to need to be a significant (>40%) increase in base salary to actually move
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Valeyard posted:interview with startup B went pretty well (I think), will have a decision by Tuesday, and then interview with startup A on Wednsday next time try interviewing with real companies instead of startups
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Apr 7, 2018 19:43
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Calling them startups is generous, both have been around for 7/8 years and values at over a billion dollars I've mentioned it before but I'm already working for a big company
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Apr 7, 2018 20:53
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But they are underpaying me
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Apr 7, 2018 21:27
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Valeyard posted:But they are underpaying me This is not consistent with wanting to stay at that company.
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Apr 7, 2018 21:35
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Job hunting is garbage but don't let that deter you from levelling up your pay stubs.
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I love the people I work with, but they aren't paying my bills I know, but it's still hard to leave
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Valeyard posted:I love the people I work with, but they aren't paying my bills I know, but it's still hard to leave You can always solicit a counter-offer. It's not always a good idea, but it can work. Hypothetically. (I have never taken the counter-offer.)
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:You can always solicit a counter-offer. I plan on doing this with my current job, if I get an offer from the six figures place. I wouldn't mind staying if they made a significant counter-offer. But I don't think they will because they already do not know how to value labor.
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Apr 7, 2018 22:10
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Based on previous comments your current place sounded awful. Why stay?
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Valeyard posted:I love the people I work with, but they aren't paying my bills I know, but it's still hard to leave i had this exact same hangup over my last job. it's not worth it Notorious b.s.d. posted:You can always solicit a counter-offer. i have and it backfired horrifically. i wouldn't do it unless you have a very good relationship with your employer with a long history of strong mutual trust.
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Rex-Goliath posted:i had this exact same hangup over my last job. it's not worth it It's not worth leaving or not worth staying? Notorious b.s.d. posted:You can always solicit a counter-offer. I wouldn't rule it out, but anecdotaly speaking I know from a few people who left recently that the counter offers they got weren't particularly great vs the competing offer
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it's never worth staying after a counter-offer. if you've proven to your current employer that you can get a new job, why would they assume that any amount of money would keep you for an appreciable length of time? even if you do stay, you're probably at the top of the list for getting shuffled out in a re-organization.
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Apr 7, 2018 23:10
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So apparently there's a lot more than Mindgeek doing the dirty in Montreal.
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Valeyard posted:It's not worth leaving or not worth staying? not worth staying. you can find a job that's just as rewarding and is actually run by people that value your contributions
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Don't accept counter offers. Also if you like your coworkers that's cool, go out for beers with them after you get a new better and higher paying job. You can buy a round!
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uncurable mlady posted:it's never worth staying after a counter-offer. if you've proven to your current employer that you can get a new job, why would they assume that any amount of money would keep you for an appreciable length of time? even if you do stay, you're probably at the top of the list for getting shuffled out in a re-organization. Anecdotally, I've seen where the policy for requests for pay raises are much more restrictive than pay raises for employee retention. In a large business your pay checks are not coming out of the supervisor's pocket, so he will submit your pay raise without holding it against you in the future. The beuracracy just wants the counter offer box checked before approving large salary increases. In their eyes they are paying you fairly because you signed the offer letter.
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how far into the interview process should i mention my retention bonus at my current place?
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it's part of the compensation discussion. I had a similar situation with some commission I'd forgo when I was leaving a job so I approached it as a 'make good' - I'm going to be out X, what's the best way of dealing with it so that I'm not out of pocket. in my case it translated to a little more base salary that would cover the gap in 18 months.
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Trimson Grondag 3 posted:it's part of the compensation discussion. I had a similar situation with some commission I'd forgo when I was leaving a job so I approached it as a 'make good' - I'm going to be out X, what's the best way of dealing with it so that I'm not out of pocket. in my case it translated to a little more base salary that would cover the gap in 18 months.
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lwoodio posted:Anecdotally, I've seen where the policy for requests for pay raises are much more restrictive than pay raises for employee retention. In a large business your pay checks are not coming out of the supervisor's pocket, so he will submit your pay raise without holding it against you in the future. The beuracracy just wants the counter offer box checked before approving large salary increases. In their eyes they are paying you fairly because you signed the offer letter. retention pay is always 100% of the time better than a raise in $$$ terms the major question is whether you will still have a career after soliciting and accepting the counter-offer. that's much harder to reason about.i have known one very good example, and several very bad you gotta feel that poo poo out on your own. there are no easy rules about it. a person has to have a really good, strong rapport with the boss to think a counter-offer is a good idea, and this thread can't, uh, help.
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i am a fortune 500 motherfucker. prick me, and i bleed tps reports this is my thing, come at me
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HoboMan posted:how far into the interview process should i mention my retention bonus at my current place? depends -- is your retention bonus a counter-offer, or an annual item? if it is the latter, mention it as soon as you have reached an impasse in negotiations. "well this all sounds pretty, but also my current employer is diligent and consistent in annual retention bonuses coming to X%/Y$..."
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I’ve yet to see a retention offer go through, word is wind and all I guess if you get it in writing and is ready to walk but again why not just walk?
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