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BattleMaster posted:I haven't seen this yet, but in the original the Alliance forces were still far from surrounding Reinhardt's force to the point where they were several hours away from each other and Reinhardt was able to give his men some downtime in between engagements. The most realistic thing about LotGH is how ridiculously lovely most people are at their job.
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Ruental’s hair is so goddamn ugly But otherwise the new opening is extremely beautiful https://youtu.be/O5fk80I3orw
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BattleMaster posted:I haven't seen this yet, but in the original the Alliance forces were still far from surrounding Reinhardt's force to the point where they were several hours away from each other and Reinhardt was able to give his men some downtime in between engagements. Also they thought the battle would go 100% exactly the same as the last time they tried this same plan
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The Brunhilde looks ugly elongated like that. The new Imperial and FPA ships look fine, though I'm not down on some of the FPA designs.
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Ok I just watched it. Bold choice only showing Reinhardt for the whole episode, I hope it works out. The music was modern buttrock, not really fitting for this series but I think a new audience would enjoy it. The intense piano song in the middle of the ep was actually really good though. Edit: kirchies gazed lovingly at Reinhardt for the perfect amount of time. At least this director understands the gay romance plot. Billzasilver fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Apr 5, 2018 |
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I can't watch the new one without thinking I should be watching the old one, so I'm afraid I will not be watching the new one.
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Please watch Legend of the Galactic Heroes.
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But just the old one.
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Is the first episode fansubbed yet or is everyone just watching the raws?
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mrfreeze posted:Is the first episode fansubbed yet or is everyone just watching the raws? It's been subbed. Look around.
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Helter Skelter posted:It's on Crunchyroll. Oh hell it's streaming on crunchyroll? I know what I'm doing tonight!
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Billzasilver posted:Ruental’s hair is so goddamn ugly its so close to starships nothing's gonna stop us now they should be sued
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Soo what kind of a show is this? Am I expecting decent-ish strategical fights? Or is it more like political intrigue/drama stuff? Just watched the first episode and tbh I'm not super impressed with the magical jamming that means the enemy can't see, hear, or notice that they can't. If this is more of a politics/drama instead of space fight show I think that'd be okay.
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Xun posted:Soo what kind of a show is this? Am I expecting decent-ish strategical fights? Or is it more like political intrigue/drama stuff? Just watched the first episode and tbh I'm not super impressed with the magical jamming that means the enemy can't see, hear, or notice that they can't. If this is more of a politics/drama instead of space fight show I think that'd be okay. More of politics and repercussions of war.
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Xun posted:Soo what kind of a show is this? Am I expecting decent-ish strategical fights? Or is it more like political intrigue/drama stuff? Just watched the first episode and tbh I'm not super impressed with the magical jamming that means the enemy can't see, hear, or notice that they can't. If this is more of a politics/drama instead of space fight show I think that'd be okay. it's a military drama about a young, alcoholic racist who gets upset about a black man being on his bridge
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Xun posted:Soo what kind of a show is this? Am I expecting decent-ish strategical fights? Or is it more like political intrigue/drama stuff? Just watched the first episode and tbh I'm not super impressed with the magical jamming that means the enemy can't see, hear, or notice that they can't. If this is more of a politics/drama instead of space fight show I think that'd be okay. You'll get a lot of intrigue and political critique.
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Xun posted:Soo what kind of a show is this? Am I expecting decent-ish strategical fights? Or is it more like political intrigue/drama stuff? Just watched the first episode and tbh I'm not super impressed with the magical jamming that means the enemy can't see, hear, or notice that they can't. If this is more of a politics/drama instead of space fight show I think that'd be okay. It’s literally a World War 1 documentary with heavy politics arguing if democracy or monarchy are superior.
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Xun posted:Soo what kind of a show is this? Am I expecting decent-ish strategical fights? Or is it more like political intrigue/drama stuff? Just watched the first episode and tbh I'm not super impressed with the magical jamming that means the enemy can't see, hear, or notice that they can't. If this is more of a politics/drama instead of space fight show I think that'd be okay. It’s both. Space Romance of the Three Kingdoms.
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Raku posted:it's a military drama about a young, alcoholic racist who gets upset about a black man being on his bridge Hey! Yang is classist, not racist. He was upset because an unauthorized enlisted man was on the bridge.
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Xun posted:Soo what kind of a show is this? Am I expecting decent-ish strategical fights? Or is it more like political intrigue/drama stuff? Just watched the first episode and tbh I'm not super impressed with the magical jamming that means the enemy can't see, hear, or notice that they can't. If this is more of a politics/drama instead of space fight show I think that'd be okay. Please watch the original and don’t base your assumptions on the reimagining. Go watch “overture to a new war” or “my conquest is the sea of stars”. The point about jamming is not particularly well founded though. They were being jammed between fleets, over large portions of space, not individual ship to ship iirc.
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Handsome, stoic anime men stand around outsmarting each other in space while classical music plays. The death toll reaches nine digits. Note that the remake lacks classical music. It's a political and military drama meditating largely on the question of whether the best dictatorship is preferable to the worst democracy, told mostly from the perspective of officers, the most prominent and sympathetic of whom is a historian. It's a pretty grounded story that doesn't use fantastic plot devices despite the far-future setting; every crazy thing that happens has precedent in something even crazier from actual history. The Napoleonic Wars are a closer analog than WW1. Bongo Bill fucked around with this message at 01:00 on Apr 7, 2018 |
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Apr 7, 2018 00:57
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Oh yeah? Well I think that WW1 is a closer analogue for LOGH than the Napoleonic Wars.
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Pewdiepie posted:Oh yeah? Well I think that WW1 is a closer analogue for LOGH than the Napoleonic Wars. The navies are a lot more mobile than WW1 armies, the battles were rapid and decisive, the conflict was not characterized by rapid technological advance, and there's a popular and charismatic conqueror. It's not an exact metaphor for many reasons, not least of which is that it disregards the author's extensive scholarship of Three Kingdoms era China, but it has a closer resemblance to 19th century war than 20th.
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Someone tell me to get off my bum and actually watch all of this show. Last time I watched it I made it to ep 50 or so and burned out. 
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StrixNebulosa posted:Someone tell me to get off my bum and actually watch all of this show. Last time I watched it I made it to ep 50 or so and burned out. Hey, you are a person that should watch and finish LOGH
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StrixNebulosa posted:Someone tell me to get off my bum and actually watch all of this show. Last time I watched it I made it to ep 50 or so and burned out. Why not put an episode on right now? Just one! No commitment.
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StrixNebulosa posted:Someone tell me to get off my bum and actually watch all of this show. Last time I watched it I made it to ep 50 or so and burned out.
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Bongo Bill posted:The navies are a lot more mobile than WW1 armies, the battles were rapid and decisive, the conflict was not characterized by rapid technological advance, and there's a popular and charismatic conqueror. Ok I was halfheartedly trolling. LOGH is obviously very well researched and draws from a lot of historical conflicts. However, I will try to defend my point here: *Defensive fortifications are stronger than offense *suicidal charges into the thor hammer, commanders bereft of creativity *Andrew Forks reminds me of the Nivelle offensive *invasion through neutral territory *stalemate *Reinhard draws on basically every successful, sharp conqueror. Alexander and Napoleon are the easy comparisons. But his road to power is maybe a little bit more like Ludendorff's (poor noble who distinguished himself on the battlefield). And that guy became the defacto ruler of the Reich in the late stages of the war *Tech advances - Reinhard and Kircheis more or less rely on the Zephyr particles to do all sorts of clever stuff. I guess that Reinhard warping in that other fort next to Iserlohn would be a tech advance too since that hadn't been pulled off before. I think the setting overall pulls a whole lot from WW1 but takes the entire story in a completely different direction that to me defies a lot of historical comparison except for maybe the fall of the Roman empire and even that's a stretch.
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Xun posted:Soo what kind of a show is this? Am I expecting decent-ish strategical fights? Or is it more like political intrigue/drama stuff? Just watched the first episode and tbh I'm not super impressed with the magical jamming that means the enemy can't see, hear, or notice that they can't. If this is more of a politics/drama instead of space fight show I think that'd be okay. Since it wasn't mentioned by others, you're right that the fleet battles usually boil down to the equivalent of technobabble justifying why one side is winning or losing or show how smart one of the admirals is. The fights are usually just window dressing for everything else that is going on. Captain Cappy fucked around with this message at 04:35 on Apr 7, 2018 |
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the ship battles are literally on such a scale that they are mostly represented by numbers because there's not really a reasonable way to portray tens of thousands of battleships firing in colossal formations over distances measured in light speed. This also has the added effect of dehumanizing the conflict to the extreme, which is also extremely relevant today.
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Yeah it’s like 70 episodes of map battles and nondescript hallways until the show finally has a half dead soldier staring at his own organs.
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Billzasilver posted:Yeah it’s like 70 episodes of map battles and nondescript hallways until the show finally has a half dead soldier staring at his own organs. I'm pretty sure that scene is shown relatively early in the series and then just repeated later on. I can't remember exactly which battle it's on but I'm pretty sure about this.
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YF-23 posted:I'm pretty sure that scene is shown relatively early in the series and then just repeated later on. I can't remember exactly which battle it's on but I'm pretty sure about this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37diFSm_vPA I don't remember the name of the battle but I think (spoilers for newbies) It was the battle between Yang and Reinhard where in the end Yang would of killed Reinhard if Mittermeyer/Reunthal hadn't gone and caputed Heinenssan
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YF-23 posted:I'm pretty sure that scene is shown relatively early in the series and then just repeated later on. I can't remember exactly which battle it's on but I'm pretty sure about this. There's one really gruesome moment around 14 and the other where the narrator piles on is around 48, IIRC.
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Still in shock that it's 2018 and this show is back. Eagerly awaiting Reinhart and Kirchies to hold hands again.
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Xun posted:Soo what kind of a show is this? Am I expecting decent-ish strategical fights? Or is it more like political intrigue/drama stuff? Just watched the first episode and tbh I'm not super impressed with the magical jamming that means the enemy can't see, hear, or notice that they can't. If this is more of a politics/drama instead of space fight show I think that'd be okay. This bothered me almost 10 years ago when I watched the original a lot and I almost quit there. It still bothers me. The old show is 100% worth watching even if that bothers you. Don't know about the new yet.
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The magical jamming is pretty much necessary for most space shows to make sense. Gundam had the same sort of the thing with Minovsky particles that basically made long range anything useless. To be honest there always has to be some handwaving in future shows because nothing makes sense if you don't.
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