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How dare you discuss stats which are unflattering to Jokic
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 16:50 |
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 15:45 |
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KAT being in the mix on a lot of plays but not really super effective at affecting shots matches the eye test.
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 16:56 |
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I think what you are trying to say is Joel Embiid for DPOY.
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 17:04 |
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Pau had a low-key good year for a 37 year old
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 17:47 |
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Hey Dokmo, I keep being an idiot and have forgotten to payup on my bet yet I'll get it done this weekend, assuming I don't die of trivia related madness
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 17:47 |
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https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/984839719648464897
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 18:05 |
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pubic works project posted:Yikes. Just reminded myself of the Batum contract. I mean, I wouldn't mind him on my team (especially since he always lights us up), but not at $24 - $27 mil. Ah another "this deal isn't that bad because the cap just went up so it's not as much as it sounds" deal that ends up being bad
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 18:06 |
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WhyteRyce posted:Ah another "this deal isn't that bad because the cap just went up so it's not as much as it sounds" deal that ends up being bad Actually, its good because that's just how much you had to pay Batum to sign him that year.
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 18:11 |
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Is Meeks on the active roster? I haven't watched many Wizards games https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/984841260593709057?s=21
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 18:13 |
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I was against trading for Batum in the first place — even though it cost them basically nothing — because it wasn't hard to this exact sequence of events coming. The market still forced their hand, though. I don't know that they'd be significantly better off without him. https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/984841260593709057 Wiz are a cursed franchise
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 18:14 |
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WhyteRyce posted:Ah another "this deal isn't that bad because the cap just went up so it's not as much as it sounds" deal that ends up being bad I don't remember how batum was the season before but if he didn't turn to poo poo the contract isn't bad
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 18:15 |
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Jodie Meeks is still in the league huh
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 18:29 |
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Jabari gone. Welcome to Sacramento! https://twitter.com/mkebballhour/status/984574940086185989
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 18:31 |
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morestuff posted:I was against trading for Batum in the first place — even though it cost them basically nothing — because it wasn't hard to this exact sequence of events coming. The market still forced their hand, though. I don't know that they'd be significantly better off without him. That explains the Ty Lawson signing yesterday.
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 18:41 |
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https://twitter.com/UziVerd/status/984273595105988610?s=19
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 18:45 |
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Metapod posted:I don't remember how batum was the season before but if he didn't turn to poo poo the contract isn't bad Yeah, 20% of your cap for good-Batum is ok. Not good, but not bad either. But he signed before the 2016-17 season and just never got back to that early Portland level. I don't think he's been healthy for years.
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 19:12 |
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He was playing hurt this year, but last season mostly seemed like an effort thing
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 19:13 |
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It hurts my brain to see Adams hitting these shots even in an open gym. One day I hope tries in-game https://twitter.com/FredKatz/status/984853329065971712?s=09
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 19:20 |
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Hmmm. Looks like after 2 blockbuster trades for Paul George and over-the-hill-Melo, the Thunder's record improved by...... 1 game.
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 19:21 |
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Mr. Mambold posted:Hmmm. Looks like after 2 blockbuster trades for Paul George and over-the-hill-Melo, the Thunder's record improved by...... 1 game. MVP.... MVP.... KISS THE TRIPLE DOUBLES
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 19:22 |
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Paul Zuvella posted:MVP.... MVP.... KISS THE TRIPLE DOUBLES But unironically
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 19:23 |
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Lockback posted:Yeah, 20% of your cap for good-Batum is ok. Not good, but not bad either. But he signed before the 2016-17 season and just never got back to that early Portland level. I don't think he's been healthy for years. Dinged up and varying levels of effort are part of Batum's MO, it was a concern when they first traded for him, so the "it was a good deal except that" arguments never held water with me.
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 19:30 |
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WhyteRyce posted:Dinged up and varying levels of effort are part of Batum's MO, it was a concern when they first traded for him, so the "it was a good deal except that" arguments never held water with me. Those are risks you take, right? Batum has had several seasons where 20% of the cap would be a good deal, but you have the caveat of injury (and effort I guess, but I'm not sure that thats not just a dude playing hurt). Sometimes those deals become Steph Curry, more often they fail. But with a finite pool of players to draw from you have to start taking risks. I'm not defending the Batum contract specifically, but fans in general and this board in particular is starting to get into the "Every Contract Is Bad" mode that makes discussing contracts pointless. Its a finite pool of players competing in a market with finite resources, you need to take risks or else congrats on the perpetual 30 win seasons, at least you are winning the imaginary game of contract value.
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 19:38 |
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The bigger issue with the Hornets is that their draft pick sucks as even as a back-up big
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 19:39 |
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Lockback posted:Those are risks you take, right? Batum has had several seasons where 20% of the cap would be a good deal, but you have the caveat of injury (and effort I guess, but I'm not sure that thats not just a dude playing hurt). Sometimes those deals become Steph Curry, more often they fail. But with a finite pool of players to draw from you have to start taking risks. Or in Charlotte's case continue to be a perpetual 30 win team. Batum wasn't an unknown quantity when he signed that extension. He signed that when he was 27 and in the league for like 8 years, you knew what you were getting because there was a sufficient track record of it. An oft-injured sometimes lacking effort super utility guy. That's not at all like the Curry gamble and even back then Curry was a way more impactful player than Batum was at his peak. A bad deal is a bad deal and people here are just rubberbanding from the "every contract is actually good because of the cap spike" mindset that was just as pointless
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 19:48 |
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I want to see a Westbrook/Wiggins/Batum/Melo/Dwight superteam of pure frustration
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 19:50 |
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Tae posted:The bigger issue with the Hornets is that their draft pick sucks as even as a back-up big Yeah, seven lotto picks became one All-Star in Kemba and two decent role-players in Zeller + MKG. Monk is TBD but will always be overshadowed by Mitchell. Any one of their whiffs goes the other way and they're fine.
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 19:52 |
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Boredumb posted:Pau had a low-key good year for a 37 year old Vindicated
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 19:54 |
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Lockback you can't make fun of people who think every contract is bad when you think every contract is good
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 19:54 |
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Hashtag Banterzone posted:I want to see a Westbrook/Wiggins/Batum/Melo/Dwight superteam of pure frustration Switch Batum to sixth man, move Meto to the 3, start Blake
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 19:55 |
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Metapod posted:It hurts my brain to see Adams hitting these shots even in an open gym. One day I hope tries in-game Simmons shoots (and makes) 3s in practice too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I5QPoy_DH4 https://twitter.com/jcameratonbcs/status/960914058517020672 It's so frustrating that he doesn't in game maybe next year
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 19:56 |
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morestuff posted:Yeah, seven lotto picks became one All-Star in Kemba and two decent role-players in Zeller + MKG. Monk is TBD but will always be overshadowed by Mitchell. Any one of their whiffs goes the other way and they're fine. Yeah. If you're going to have to ask for context in regarding a contract being good or not, you have to go the whole way. Is giving a oft injured and not motivated utility player a huge deal a good idea for a team with a lot of holes and no ability to find talent in the draft or free agency
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 19:56 |
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Cool Buff Man posted:Lockback you can't make fun of people who think every contract is bad when you think every contract is good Yeah, if the incoming cap crunch says anything it's that the "no deals are bad with this cap spike" mindset was wrong
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 20:01 |
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Welcome back to Chicago Jabari
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 20:05 |
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that Adams video of him shooting threes makes me wonder if there are other bigs out there that could one day shoot threes. I wonder if there's a way we can kind of predict that, it would be fun. Maybe starting from big FT% and work from there?
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 20:08 |
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Carlosologist posted:that Adams video of him shooting threes makes me wonder if there are other bigs out there that could one day shoot threes. I wonder if there's a way we can kind of predict that, it would be fun. Maybe starting from big FT% and work from there? not really what your asking. But Adams shooting unguarded 3s on fresh legs in practice means almost nothing, and certainly does not mean he will ever shoot them well in game.
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 20:12 |
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Cool Buff Man posted:Lockback you can't make fun of people who think every contract is bad when you think every contract is good I specifically said the Batum contract wasn't good though.
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 20:14 |
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IcePhoenix posted:Switch Batum to sixth man, move Meto to the 3, start Blake Meto World Piece
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 20:22 |
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Paul Zuvella posted:not really what your asking. But Adams shooting unguarded 3s on fresh legs in practice means almost nothing, and certainly does not mean he will ever shoot them well in game. these dudes have spent their entire lives loving around on a basketball court i would be shocked if there was a single player in the nba who couldnt hit 3s during practice.
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# ? Apr 13, 2018 20:26 |
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Ghost Dog posted:these dudes have spent their entire lives loving around on a basketball court i would be shocked if there was a single player in the nba who couldnt hit 3s during practice. DeAndre Jordan?
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