Pillars of Eternity 1 and 2: Capt. Asshole Island

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Scorchy: Jul 15, 2006; Smug Statement: Elementary, my dear meatbag.

bongwizzard posted:

I want to run a gimmick party using the members of the Wu Tang Clan as my NCPs. So far I have;

RZA (PC) — Chanter/Shattered Pillar Monk
GZA — Chanter/Wizard
ODB/Dirt McGirt — Chanter/Barb
Method Man — Chanter/DrugMonk

But I am suck on my last pick! Small parties suck!

Any suggestions would be appreciated tia.

I've tried a Chanter-Skald/Ranger-Stalker a few times and the synergy is nice.

You're in melee and your pet is close by all the time, so you can load up on the short range defensive auras to benefit both, as well as take advantage of all those Chanter Invocations with the tiny cone range.

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# ? Apr 24, 2024 03:41

bongwizzard: May 19, 2005; Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"; Grimey Drawer

Scorchy posted:

I've tried a Chanter-Skald/Ranger-Stalker a few times and the synergy is nice.

You're in melee and your pet is close by all the time, so you can load up on the short range defensive auras to benefit both, as well as take advantage of all those Chanter Invocations with the tiny cone range.

Sure, but I still don�t know who to pick and who to leave out. Like, Raekwon had maybe the second best solo album, but Ghostface Killah was a huge part of it. It seems wrong to pick one over the other.

I could do Inspechah Deck as a Chanter/Cipher, but idk.

# ? Apr 13, 2018 23:38

Wizard Styles: Aug 6, 2014; level 15 disillusionist

U-God/Golden Arms, Chanter/Goldpact Knight.

Monopthalmus posted:

Does anyone have any advice for playing a melee-centric party on PotD?

I find myself always slipping back into a party of two tanks up front grabbing all the engagement and then four ranged damage/cc guys in back. It just seems like by far the easiest way to play since you can exploit choke points most of the game and its often frustrating/impossible to get all your melee dudes on the target. But I'd like to try something different and experiment with classes like monks and barbarians that I haven't before.

I know I can pretty much do whatever I want on hard, but PotD seems to demand a less experimental approach so I'm looking for some advice as to how to have a more melee-centric party this time around.

I've played PotD mostly without acknowledging that choke points or shields exist. The key to that is just lots of CC and offensively built melee characters. My first PotD party was a custom one with a Monk, a Barbarian, a Rogue, a Druid, a Cipher and a Wizard. The Monk was actually a little subpar in that one because, usually, only half the enemies would be capable of doing anything at a given time. If you keep a high enough number of enemies locked down with CC a Barbarian is all the tank you'll ever need. You just need to kill enemies fast enough to make sure you don't run out of CC eventually, but that's not really something that party ever had a problem with.

# ? Apr 13, 2018 23:41

Airfoil: Sep 10, 2013; I'm a rocket man

bongwizzard posted:

I want to run a gimmick party using the members of the Wu Tang Clan as my NCPs. So far I have;

RZA (PC) � Chanter/Shattered Pillar Monk
GZA � Chanter/Wizard
ODB/Dirt McGirt � Chanter/Barb
Method Man � Chanter/DrugMonk

But I am suck on my last pick! Small parties suck!

Any suggestions would be appreciated tia.

Dr. Octogon - Chanter/Priest

# ? Apr 14, 2018 00:14

bongwizzard: May 19, 2005; Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"; Grimey Drawer

Airfoil posted:

Dr. Octogon - Chanter/Priest

Kool Keith is more of a sci-fi thing imho.

Ropekid, for your next game please make an isometric turn-based science-fiction crpg with heavy Afrofuturist and sexual overtones tia.

# ? Apr 14, 2018 00:37

bongwizzard: May 19, 2005; Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"; Grimey Drawer

I�ll pledge five figures to get Mr Gerbik as a playable character.

# ? Apr 14, 2018 00:44

Airfoil: Sep 10, 2013; I'm a rocket man

+1 would buy

# ? Apr 14, 2018 00:48

Vargs: Mar 27, 2010

frajaq posted:

Obsidian that's nice and all but we really want a voiced protagonist too, it breaks my immersion when all my companions are talkative with nice expensive voice actors but my PC is this mute weirdo.

I'm okay with being a mute weirdo, but something that bothered me on this recent replay was how little personality there is to your own character's responses. You get a little bit here and there, mostly in White March, but for the most part I found it difficult to connect to or care about my character when they are incapable of any sort of emotion, almost exclusively communicating by blandly saying either "How can I help? or "I won't help you." Even when you get a larger list of choices that are tied to the tracked personality traits, they still all feel so safe and generic.

# ? Apr 14, 2018 00:50

bongwizzard: May 19, 2005; Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"; Grimey Drawer

bongwizzard posted:

I want to run a gimmick party using the members of the Wu Tang Clan as my NCPs. So far I have;

RZA (PC) � Chanter/Shattered Pillar Monk
GZA � Chanter/Wizard
ODB/Dirt McGirt � Chanter/Barb
Method Man � Chanter/DrugMonk

But I am suck on my last pick! Small parties suck!

Any suggestions would be appreciated tia.

I think I need to do Killah Priest -- Chanter/Priest. Although not a Wu member, his verse on 4th Chamber is insane and B.I.B.L.E is a great loving song. Anyone with that much material on the best solo album is welcome in my Wu Tang gimmick party any day.

# ? Apr 14, 2018 01:00

frajaq: Jan 30, 2009; #acolyte GM of 2014

wait what do you mean Ed�r and Aloth are voiced by the same person? what the gently caress?????

# ? Apr 14, 2018 01:04

Your Parents: Jul 19, 2017; by R. Guyovich

rope kid posted:

It's extremely rare that anyone brings up non-PC interface questions like, "How would this work on a tablet?" or "How would this work on a console?" and my answer is always, "I don't know or care."

If we develop a game that's intended to be cross-platform, I have no problem entertaining those questions, but Pillars and Deadfire are both being developed for Windows/Mac/Linux, and that's it. I am not willing to compromise any aspect of the game's design for the possibility that maybe someday someone will want to put it on another platform.

Just checked out this thread again for the first time after re-registering my account and lmao.

# ? Apr 14, 2018 01:07

mbt: Aug 13, 2012

i've been busy learning pyqt

hopefully out before release

features
-edits giant json files with a neat ui
-not much else

todo
~~-search crashes a lot probably because its so large and/or i'm bad at pyqt~~e: I was bad at pyqt
-export data in a way that's sustainable in the future (the way mods work you can't set an order, so if you had 3 of these doing separate things only one of them would load. but if you had one file that edited max level, one that edited attack speed, and one that changed xp rate, they wouldn't conflict)
-make a giant list of preset drop boxes for non-numeric entries (eg cast speeds aren't in the data as "slow" "medium" "fast", the actual values are long entries likes 09188oj01l3kj10uf)
-maybe make some presets tick boxes or something for the lazy

mbt fucked around with this message at 01:28 on Apr 14, 2018

# ? Apr 14, 2018 01:14

TEENAGE WITCH: Jul 20, 2008; NAH LAD

Oasx posted:

They just announced that every line of dialogue in the game will be voiced.

lol this is trill

# ? Apr 14, 2018 01:27

2house2fly: Nov 14, 2012; You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

Mymla posted:

But what if my character is not a pasty white nerd?

That is also a problem in games where the player character is voiced

# ? Apr 14, 2018 01:38

upgunned shitpost: Jan 21, 2015

cappadonna, shifter... the verses on winter warz are pure fuckin' beast mode.

was gonna roll as a wael priest/cipher, but now that laura bailey is the voice of xoti, gotta ride with the boss and two of the same class is just balls. guess I can save that character for my dread pirate run though, doin' crime for 'MYSTERIOUS REASONS!!!'

# ? Apr 14, 2018 01:52

mbt: Aug 13, 2012

jfood posted:

my dread pirate run

every run is a dread pirate run :colbert:

# ? Apr 14, 2018 01:58

The Crotch: Oct 16, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

Having played Dragon "That's what my Qunari sounds like?" Age Inquisition, I'm pretty happy to keep the player character text-only.

jfood posted:

cappadonna, shifter... the verses on winter warz are pure fuckin' beast mode.

was gonna roll as a wael priest/cipher, but now that laura bailey is the voice of xoti, gotta ride with the boss and two of the same class is just balls. guess I can save that character for my dread pirate run though, doin' crime for 'MYSTERIOUS REASONS!!!'

You can make her a single-class monk, right?

# ? Apr 14, 2018 02:25

frajaq: Jan 30, 2009; #acolyte GM of 2014

yes

# ? Apr 14, 2018 02:34

frajaq: Jan 30, 2009; #acolyte GM of 2014

rope kid just release the drat game already you're on your like 754th playthrough

# ? Apr 14, 2018 02:35

Mr. Baps: Apr 16, 2008; Yo ho?

The Crotch posted:

Having played Dragon "That's what my Qunari sounds like?" Age Inquisition, I'm pretty happy to keep the player character text-only.

Voiced protagonists and fully-customized/blank slate protagonists most often do not mix well.

# ? Apr 14, 2018 02:47

upgunned shitpost: Jan 21, 2015

The Crotch posted:

You can make her a single-class monk, right?

don't like monks, aside from gun monks

gunner is a ranger only talent

# ? Apr 14, 2018 03:09

Ginette Reno: Nov 18, 2006; How Doers get more done; Fun Shoe

The Crotch posted:

Having played Dragon "That's what my Qunari sounds like?" Age Inquisition, I'm pretty happy to keep the player character text-only.

You can make her a single-class monk, right?

Playing a big Qunari with the British Male voice is hilarious

# ? Apr 14, 2018 04:02

rope kid: Feb 3, 2001; Warte nur! Balde
Ruhest du auch.

Your Parents posted:

Just checked out this thread again for the first time after re-registering my account and lmao.

# ? Apr 14, 2018 05:47

Your Parents: Jul 19, 2017; by R. Guyovich

rope kid posted:

thats the last post i was on and now theres gonna be console versions. not saying anything was compromised.

# ? Apr 14, 2018 05:53

Valleyant: Jul 23, 2007; That darn catte

Ravenfood posted:

I'd be interested in playing a game that had some kind of negative progression, preferably one based around constant loss themes. You'd start at a high level with a ton of abilities or whatever, and as you progress through the game you'd have to sacrifice something, either in the form of stats, abilities, items, companions, etc. It'd be a game about mitigating losses and trying to eke out extra power from creative combinations as your overt power slips more and more away. No idea how well that'd actually work in practice (the potential loss of flexibility as you go further in the game seems pretty lovely and would definitely need to be addressed) but it could be neat if someone a lot smarter than me took a crack at it.

There's a really good short story about this, actually.

Levarr Burton read it on his podcast iirc

# ? Apr 14, 2018 06:09

Basic Chunnel: Sep 21, 2010; Jesus! Jesus Christ! Say his name! Jesus! Jesus! Come down now!

You could play the Mummy line of World of Darkness but it doesn�t make a whole ton of sense

# ? Apr 14, 2018 06:29

Avalerion: Oct 19, 2012

Your Parents posted:

thats the last post i was on and now theres gonna be console versions. not saying anything was compromised.

This is the way to do it imo, just make it for PC first and let someone else figure out if/how to make it run on a tablet.

# ? Apr 14, 2018 06:45

Cheston: Jul 17, 2012; (he's got a good thing going)

Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:

i've been busy learning pyqt

hopefully out before release

features
-edits giant json files with a neat ui
-not much else

todo
~~-search crashes a lot probably because its so large and/or i'm bad at pyqt~~e: I was bad at pyqt
-export data in a way that's sustainable in the future (the way mods work you can't set an order, so if you had 3 of these doing separate things only one of them would load. but if you had one file that edited max level, one that edited attack speed, and one that changed xp rate, they wouldn't conflict)
-make a giant list of preset drop boxes for non-numeric entries (eg cast speeds aren't in the data as "slow" "medium" "fast", the actual values are long entries likes 09188oj01l3kj10uf)
-maybe make some presets tick boxes or something for the lazy

Nice! I made some of a mod manager using Electron to handle load order and export merged files, but lost steam doing an editor. (also Electron projects build to 200mb minimum and it feels embarrassing for a mod manager)

I'll just finish the non-editing parts now and put it out there.

# ? Apr 14, 2018 06:52

sunken fleet: Apr 25, 2010; dreams of an unchanging future,
a today like yesterday,
a tomorrow like today.; Fallen Rib

This is a dumb question but will PoE2 be a direct sequel? Should I grit my teeth and finish my play through of the first game if I want to comprehend the second one?

# ? Apr 14, 2018 12:25

Urthor: Jul 28, 2014

Monopthalmus posted:

Does anyone have any advice for playing a melee-centric party on PotD?

I find myself always slipping back into a party of two tanks up front grabbing all the engagement and then four ranged damage/cc guys in back. It just seems like by far the easiest way to play since you can exploit choke points most of the game and its often frustrating/impossible to get all your melee dudes on the target. But I'd like to try something different and experiment with classes like monks and barbarians that I haven't before.

I know I can pretty much do whatever I want on hard, but PotD seems to demand a less experimental approach so I'm looking for some advice as to how to have a more melee-centric party this time around.

It's a Baldur's gate sequel, casters are mandatory bud. You can have DPS melee if you want but you always need 1-2 classes, perfectly possible to go two tanks then a full fighter for AOE

# ? Apr 14, 2018 12:31

Clever Spambot: Sep 16, 2009; You've lost that lovin' feeling,
Now it's gone...gone...GONE....

sunken fleet posted:

This is a dumb question but will PoE2 be a direct sequel? Should I grit my teeth and finish my play through of the first game if I want to comprehend the second one?

Yes but I doubt you will need to have played the first one to understand whats happening. The fact there is the option to import your choices from 1 does mean it will be super obvious its a sequel though.

# ? Apr 14, 2018 12:41

Hieronymous Alloy: Jan 30, 2009; Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!; Morbid Hound

oh this should be added to the OP:

# ? Apr 14, 2018 13:15

Subjunctive: Sep 12, 2006; ✨sparkle and shine✨

Maybe fix the typo before it�s enshrined!

(Looks great though.)

# ? Apr 14, 2018 13:20

UrbicaMortis: Feb 16, 2012; Hmm, how shall I post today?

What's the deal with inspirations and afflictions? I've seen them mentioned in the thread.

# ? Apr 14, 2018 13:22

Hieronymous Alloy: Jan 30, 2009; Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!; Morbid Hound

Subjunctive posted:

Maybe fix the typo before it�s enshrined!

(Looks great though.)

Hah!

It's not my chart, just something Maxquest over on the official forums put together.

UrbicaMortis posted:

What's the deal with inspirations and afflictions? I've seen them mentioned in the thread.

see: chart, above

Basically almost all buffs and debuffs are now classed as either "inspirations" or "afflictions." You can cast an inspiration on a stat to cancel out an affliction on the stat and vice-versa.

Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 13:26 on Apr 14, 2018

# ? Apr 14, 2018 13:22

Raygereio: Nov 12, 2012

UrbicaMortis posted:

What's the deal with inspirations and afflictions? I've seen them mentioned in the thread.

It's the buff/debuff system in Deadfire.
Someone with more up to date information may correct me, but the important thing is that inspirations & afflictions of the same attribute type cancel each other out. So for example if you have a party member that is Dominated, you can cancel that out with a buff that adds the Smart inspiration. Likewise if an enemy has Energized himself, you can remove that buff by Staggering him.

# ? Apr 14, 2018 13:29

Anno: May 10, 2017; I'm going to drown! For no reason at all!

Feels like Dex inspirations could use a buff. Other than that though I find the rest of them pretty compelling.

# ? Apr 14, 2018 13:31

Hieronymous Alloy: Jan 30, 2009; Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!; Morbid Hound