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Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything



Fun Shoe
Doug has upgraded cameras at least once.

The issues with the specials are more things like lighting and set design than recording quality.

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Inspector Gesicht
Oct 26, 2012

500 Zeus a body.


And script quality.

DeafNote
Jun 4, 2014

Only Happy When It Rains

Mokinokaro posted:

Doug has upgraded cameras at least once.

The issues with the specials are more things like lighting and set design than recording quality.

You mean the world isnt blue?

e X
Feb 23, 2013

cool but crude

DeafNote posted:

You mean the world isnt blue?

Da ba dee da ba daa

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005


Groovelord Neato posted:

how come even though doug is rich he kept recording his reviews on what seems to be a webcam and the movies they made had the quality of a cell phone video.

From all accounts, Doug is apparently the kind of Luddite who stubbornly refuses to try to learn anything new, even if it consists of "push this button."

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

khwarezm posted:

This feels like one of those essayists whose not very funny gimmicks and attempts at comedy keep on getting in the way of the content.

Yeah, that's basically my take on him. He's got interesting perspectives but he's trying way too hard to be quote-unquote likeable.

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



Absurd Alhazred posted:

Oh, God, I used to listen to them when I was in high school. I'm cringing.

blur was the correct britpop band to listen to. gently caress oasis.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

DoctorWhat posted:

but sir, this is a McDonald's drive thru! If I that, I get laugh-points and feel good about myself at the expense of empathic discourse!

No one did the McDonald’s drive thru joke.

Shame it would have worked incredibly well there.

Sarcopenia
May 14, 2014

CharlestheHammer posted:

No one did the McDonald’s drive thru joke.

Shame it would have worked incredibly well there.

rudecyrus posted:

Sir, this is a drive-thru.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Oh fair enough and it’s a better post than the ones pretending it isn’t a meltdown.

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

IMO the problem is less what LK did in the situation that led to their demodding than the fact they put together a 26+ point post responding to their demodding instead of simply walking away. This obsession with being right in a pointless conflict is the main driver of bad posting, dragging out arguments that could be finished in one page to three or more.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
oh boy lgr made a nice videos about an anime typing game, I wonder what the internet reviewer thread has to say about it

why do you guys keep doing this to me

on topic, LGR is very good and he deserves more kudos tbh.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

Mod me. I promise to be extremely unprofessional and barely post in this forum.

Weird Sandwich
Dec 28, 2011

FIRE FIRE FIRE hehehehe!
LGR is seriously one of the best and friendliest guys in internet reviewing along with like, Metal Jesus Rocks.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

DEEP STATE PLOT posted:

blur was the correct britpop band to listen to. gently caress oasis.

That's a strange way to spell Pulp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuTMWgOduFM

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

does Lush count as a britpop band when only their last album was really any kind of britpoppy

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

Came to post this. I was a teenage girl during the Blur/Oasis wars and the correct response was to listen to Pulp and be super snooty and above it all.

...Damon Albarn was hot and Liam Gallagher was whiny fight me

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

HopperUK posted:

Came to post this. I was a teenage girl during the Blur/Oasis wars and the correct response was to listen to Pulp and be super snooty and above it all.

...Damon Albarn was hot and Liam Gallagher was whiny fight me

I envy you your taste. Not only did I had poo poo taste, I had some personal annoyance with a lot of 90s Israeli pop rock, which I'm now nostalgic for for some reason? :iiam:

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)

Weird Sandwich posted:

LGR is seriously one of the best and friendliest guys in internet reviewing along with like, Metal Jesus Rocks.

oh course you would say this, weird sandwich

Spark That Bled
Jan 29, 2010

Hungry for responsibility. Horny for teamwork.

And ready to
BUST A NUT
up in this job!

Skills include:
EIGHT-FOOT VERTICAL LEAP

HopperUK posted:

Came to post this. I was a teenage girl during the Blur/Oasis wars and the correct response was to listen to Pulp and be super snooty and above it all.

...Damon Albarn was hot and Liam Gallagher was whiny fight me

What, no love for Suede?

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

Spark That Bled posted:

What, no love for Suede?

I was not cool enough for Suede. Liked .. was it 'Film Star'?

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

lornekates posted:

Thanks, I appreciate the support.

The (long) short of it is:

1) A user was posting a Howard Stern related running gag in the Howard Stern thread. To refrain from drawing too much attention to this user, I'll just call him "The Petty loving Whiny poo poo-Fucker Known as Immortal Anime", or "Immortal Anime" for short.
2) A bunch of baby-pants Howard Stern fans got upset at an unfunny, worn-out "joke", which is super ironic given who they listen to.
3) I get near daily reports of "Immortal Anime posted Baba Booey wah wah". I laugh and file them under "Ignore". So let this be on the record, I was on the side of Immortal Anime and actively defending him against false reports of "thread-making GBS threads".
4) Some 50+ reports over several weeks later, I figure fine, let's make this fair. Post, to effect "Since this is a running joke, I will allow it as long as it's running. For as long as IA posts this once a day, every day, it isn't banned. Everyone else also is allowed to post this once a day with no repercussions. BUT if IA misses even a single day, the running joke has stopped running, and I'll agree it's thread-making GBS threads. Anyone posting it gets a probe/ban. I probably won't monitor it, so you have to let me know that the rule was broken. Anyone complaining to me around it gets a probation."
5) So it's a bog-standard "SomethingAwful is nonesense" thread rule. As is the, as I keep hearing, "SomethingAwful Culture".
6) IA misses a day, and the rule kicks in.
7) Some people explicitly test the rule, and get reported. They get a probation and/or ban. All is good and everyone is happy.
8) Some time later, someone else breaks the rule.
9) IA starts whining "MODS!". Literally. It's in the thread, you can go see it yourself. He also sends me a PM complaining about it. Note that this is against the rules, that everyone else was adhering too.
10) In the interest of fairness, I punish the original poster-- but also give Immortal Anime a short probation for breaking the rules. Maybe it was a day? I can't be arsed to check.
10.5) Again, can't be arsed, but I think for coming off his short probe-- wait, I think it was coming off the probe AND posting in the Howard Stern thread something like "gently caress you bitch rear end mod you can't touch me". Yeah, I think that was it. Well, that's just above and beyond any thread-rule thing. That's just rudeness and sass. So he gets a month probe for being so willfully brazen. I honestly don't care about the insults myself, but it isn't a good look to let someone who is already annoying the thread get away with off-topic straight out insults.
11) All seems well. Then Immortal Anime poops his diaper like a baby and starts to cry like a wussy to his friends who are mods in another thread.
12) They give him a short probation for something else. Depending on who you believe, it was either for breaking a rule in a different subforum (which happened to have the sideeffect of cancelling out the month-long probation-- that's how the SA mod system works for some reason)-- or it was doing that just as a cover story for intentionally evading a probation under a flimsy excuse. I think we can guess which way I lean now.
12.5) In fact, take special note of #12. IA was on probation, so he couldn't have posted something NEW that got him probated. That means that a moderator went back to an old post, and probated him for that. An old post. In the past. Keep a note of that.
13) I send a PM to the moderator "Hey, just an FYI, that user is on a month-long probe, just so we don't override each others' probes", because I figured it was an honest mistake. I don't hear anything back from that mod. Since I have no idea how that mod is related, and can't check on the mod queue anymore, I'll withhold that name.
14) I also make a post in the moderator subforums pretty much the same FYI, since I figure that's the best way to communicate with the other mods. In the mod subforum. For moderators. Where moderators talk to each other. Y'know.
15) An admin basically says "I retracted the overriding probe, I'll keep an eye on it". I say thank you.
16) I start getting PMs from several users alerting me that, once again, Immortal Anime has had his buddies short-circuit his probation. People are noticing that he's circumventing the rules, which is, again, not a good look. In fact, in the reading I did when I became a mod, I was under the impression that evading a probe or ban was itself a bannable / permabannable offense.
17) I re-queue the month ban because that is only fair.
18) Poopy-pants Immortal Anime, now that he's hidden under the skirt of his Mommy, sticks his tongue out at me, because he is a very mature adult. He starts emailing me PMs that range from insults to threats to nigh-doxxing. (Well, he thought he was being a Big Boy by insinuating he doxxed me, but since all he actually unearthed was one of the top hits when you google my name, it wasn't very impressive. For the record, it was the Master Chef Canada audition tape I put together for a laugh: https://vimeo.com/70910715).
19) I reply cordially to him, explaining at first that the most ironinc thing about his tantrum is that he actually had my support for his running joke. I had been explicitly protecting him-- rejecting requests to probate him for the running joke, and in fact came up with the thread rule to not only CONTINUE the running joke, but to actively punish anyone who tried to stop him. And instead he turn an ally into an enemy all on his own. My last PM to him is to calmly say "Look, my PMs are for moderator related communications. So unless this is official business, please don't PM me.". In other words, "I'm asking you nicely to stop trying to harass me, and I'm making that clear. This is me giving you an out to just walk away and not escalate this."
20) His response is to throw more mod sass. Like most "tee hee I'm being so clever" idiots, the words themselves are innocuous, but the intention is blatant. I don't like people like that. I really don't.
21) I do make these conversations and PM mod sass known in the Moderator threads. The message I get is basically "Yeah, people sassing in PM is a no-no, and is usually a punishable offense". Gotcha.
22) So, since I can't take an action on a PM (a mod can only action on posts in their own subform), I go back to find a post by Immortal Anime to action on. I was under the impression that you can't submit a probation on a post that already had a probation against it. I might have been mistaking, I can't confirm that-- typing this I might have been thinking "a user can't SUBMIT a mod report on a post that's already been reported". The first one I come across that hasn't been actioned on is one of his joke posts. I put a, I want to say 1 or 3 day on it. Kinda a subtle acknowledgement to the people who are already probing him for 1 or 3 days. It's short enough that if they try to evade it, they'll only make it longer by effect.
23) I start to get harassing PMs from Immortal Anime's friends. They are "harassing" in the same way-- innocuous phrase, intention is clear. I honestly don't care because it's a PM, but it's amusing in a way that watching a child trying to walk in Daddy's shoes is. They're just trying SO HARD to be Big Boy. But I don't really want a PM box full of people sending me these, so I respond with what is effectively a form letter, with the same intention as the one I sent to IA. "Thanks for emailing, I appreciate you taking the time. However, this PM is for mod business, etc, etc". If anyone has ever worked customer service, you know exactly how you handle an irate customer. They either want help, which you're here for them, or they want to yell, in which case you need to end the conversation. With a smile. I get a couple "you're weird" replies, but the PMs go away.
23.5) For the record, those PM users are, since you can easily cross-reference with people who are crying and lying in the QQcs thread: "pog boyfriend", "stay safe", "grumple wumpkins", and the lovely "gently caress My rear end".
24) All of the above is basically communicated in the Moderator sub-forum too, because I like to give co-workers a heads-up when a shitstorm is brewing, because there can be splash back. Also, so that if they're getting PMs or complaints with lies in them (again I'll point you to the QQcs thread), they have my version on hand. Silly me, I thought the word of a moderator, who is also a poster in good standing with the forum, would have more weight than some trolls with a grudge.
25) At this point, FactsAreUseless says he won't protect my month long probation. Whatever.
26) I log in and I'm demodded. (I wasn't aware of what's going on in QQcs thread at the time)
26.5) Now that I *AM* aware of that thread, remember what I said about point 12? "IA was on probation, so he couldn't have posted something NEW that got him probated. That means that a moderator went back to an old post, and probated him for that. An old post. In the past.". So yeah, check out that QQcs thread-- and note that the thing his buddies are complaining about is that he was probated for. The exact same thing. Funny how they can do one thing, then complain about other people do that same thing. Hmm, almost as if they're being-- disingenuous or something.
27) You'll note there is no bullet-point here where anyone from the Admin team says "Hey, Lorne, there's some performance we're unhappy about, so let's talk about it like adults to come to a mutually beneficial outcome". Or "We're thinking of demodding you, can you give us your side of this situation".
28) I log in and find I'm demodded, and a message from FactsAreUseless saying "I don't know if that's the way to phrase it, and I've never sent one of these before, so this will be super awkward. Anyway, we've demodded you. You seem like you're trying to be very serious and professional about moderation, but in a way that isn't really compatible with the forums. Thanks for all the work you put into RGD. I appreciate it."
29) What the gently caress? "serious and professional" about moderation. Yeah, no poo poo, that's what you do in a position of power and responsibility. And "serious", what the gently caress, have you ever read one of my posts? Did you SEE the goddamn hoop-jumpy stupid fun thread rule I put into place? And your appreciation is to demod me with no discussion? I feel REAL appreciated there, buddy.
30) And you will notice the "we" in there. Yeah, so, after talking with some other mods & admins though basically a few "What happened?!?" emails, trying to understand what happened, the messaging I get back is "We're surprised too. There was no discussion about this. No one on the admin team was part of this decision, just FactsAreUseless. Sorry."
31) I write this "short" post.

tldr: So there you go. A pissy-baby shitfucker known as Immortal Anime gets special privileges from a moderator. He then manages to still mess that up, and gets punished for it. He whines to his friends who help him evade punishment. He throws abuse, and gets punished for it. His friends whine, lie and misrepresent what happened. The whining makes it's way to an admin who is friends with the whiny babies. The admin acts on his own to demod me.

And what would a post be without some screenshots?

Immortal Anime going "wah wah my friends like me better i'm not mad ur mad it was just a joke and u don't like fun" (again, remember, the entire point of these rules was to LET him have his annoying fun). Note the pathetic attempt at "doxxing" there.



(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

:gb2fyad:

Baka-nin
Jan 25, 2015

Groovelord Neato posted:

how come even though doug is rich he kept recording his reviews on what seems to be a webcam and the movies they made had the quality of a cell phone video.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
NELLA'S ON A RAMPAGE WOO!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=impC-_6lAFM

ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?

Groovelord Neato posted:

how come even though doug is rich he kept recording his reviews on what seems to be a webcam and the movies they made had the quality of a cell phone video.

I desperately just want to buy Brad Jones a Canon T4i so he can stop having his reviews look older than the crusty old porn parodies he covers.

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

Tired Moritz posted:

oh boy lgr made a nice videos about an anime typing game, I wonder what the internet reviewer thread has to say about it

why do you guys keep doing this to me

on topic, LGR is very good and he deserves more kudos tbh.

An Initial D anime typing game, which I thought it was gonna be a bit better than just a shockwave title. On the other hand, I'm glad they capitalized early on "Oh yeah people Love Eurobeat, do they."

Inspector Gesicht
Oct 26, 2012

500 Zeus a body.


Joseph Anderson on Minit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_84aBNgLR0

Dear Lord, he pronounces "Mario" as "Mariao".

Inspector Gesicht fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Apr 14, 2018

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



ricdesi posted:

I desperately just want to buy Brad Jones a Canon T4i so he can stop having his reviews look older than the crusty old porn parodies he covers.

Alovingmen.

The most insane thing in all this to me is Doug not learning about cameras etc, or at least hiring someone who knows this poo poo, and not believing people in the desert deserve water or craft services. Holy poo poo. I am loving blown away.

EDIT: OH MY GOD AND NOT OWNING THE RIGHTS TO HIS OWN CHARACTER

The Deleter
May 22, 2010
Doug seems like the hapless loving idiot who would need to outsource basic running of things honestly. It seems to also be true that he wouldn't even think of that. This is a dude who thought spraying pepper spray into a sink and not considering the splashback was a good idea.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


yeah i dunno why brad hasn't upgraded. what is he even using - his videos are worse than a camera phone in quality.

Inspector Gesicht posted:

Joseph Anderson on Minit:

i think joey anderson is the only reviewer where i've agreed with everything they put out. i felt like i was on crazy pills when everyone was praising "inside" and his review was a little breath of fresh air. haven't played minit yet so i guess i'll hold off on watching.

but yeah not being able to say mario right is the worst bit of his reviews. made the odyssey one painful to sit through even though i agreed with it.

Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Apr 14, 2018

MisterBibs
Jul 17, 2010

dolla dolla
bill y'all
Fun Shoe

Mokinokaro posted:

The issues with the specials are more things like lighting and set design than recording quality.

I always remember that when watching Kickassia, because every once in a while I'd realize "holy poo poo, they are doing {whatever they are doing} at someone's house" and it just felt embarrassing to watch. Like, screaming at each other with your hands out, in front of a window, whose light is blowing out the special effects you'll be adding later.

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything



Fun Shoe
I'm pretty sure Brad is doing it intentionally.

ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?

Koalas March posted:

The most insane thing in all this to me is Doug not learning about cameras etc, or at least hiring someone who knows this poo poo, and not believing people in the desert deserve water or craft services. Holy poo poo. I am loving blown away.

I don't even know how you don't pick that stuff up by osmosis after a decade. I've been at it that long (not on YouTube, but starting back with filmed sketch comedy in college) and it's night and day, the difference between then and now. And he's been on real ("real") film sets before, he's had cameos in other people's work outside of his bubble, there's no way he hasn't encountered basic amenities while doing so.

Even if he doesn't think "craft services" are needed, how do you have people on set for over 12 hours and not stop and even just go "Hey, does anyone want some pizza? I'm gonna order up like six, what do people want?"

Koalas March posted:

OH MY GOD AND NOT OWNING THE RIGHTS TO HIS OWN CHARACTER

Honestly, this is the most mindblowing thing to me. How in god's name did Doug let some other schmuck get the rights to his character (and as a result, his likeness as said character)? How can you be so horrific at negotiation that you give up the rights to the thing that made you famous in the first place? What stops Mike Michaud from waking up tomorrow and saying "Nah, gently caress it, the Nostalgia Critic is dead, and if anyone tries to save it, you can talk to my lawyer"?

The Deleter posted:

Doug seems like the hapless loving idiot who would need to outsource basic running of things honestly. It seems to also be true that he wouldn't even think of that. This is a dude who thought spraying pepper spray into a sink and not considering the splashback was a good idea.

"Riot police use this to disperse people outdoors, right? Okay, I'm gonna spray it two feet in front of us in a tiny kitchen, let's see what happens!"

Baka-nin
Jan 25, 2015

Koalas March posted:

Alovingmen.

The most insane thing in all this to me is Doug not learning about cameras etc, or at least hiring someone who knows this poo poo, and not believing people in the desert deserve water or craft services. Holy poo poo. I am loving blown away.

EDIT: OH MY GOD AND NOT OWNING THE RIGHTS TO HIS OWN CHARACTER

Weirdly Doug has both hired people more experienced with filming then him and had extensive contacts with other film makers who have made professional, if low budget films. Not only has he failed to take advantage of either but he's burned bridges with his film making friends over his poor directing skills.

ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?

Mokinokaro posted:

I'm pretty sure Brad is doing it intentionally.

I've thought about that too, that's about the only rationale I can come up with for why he'd still have such awful video quality, if it's part of his "schtick" by now. Maybe if he put a filter on it similar to RLM's Best of the Worst intro or something it'd feel more... I don't know, intentional?

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
yeah its probably intentional, but its not something im particularly something I'm a fan of.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



I have only been producing for 3 years and the fact he's been at this for a decade is loving wild.

Baka-nin posted:

Weirdly Doug has both hired people more experienced with filming then him and had extensive contacts with other film makers who have made professional, if low budget films. Not only has he failed to take advantage of either but he's burned bridges with his film making friends over his poor directing skills.

Filming anything is an inherently collaborative process.

like

you aren't fuckin Kubrick (and even he had a drat crew!)

his hubris and stupidity will be legendary and I suspect a What-Not-To-Do for up & coming content creators for years to come.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer
Joseph Anderson made a new short video about an indie game. It is surprisingly self-aware.

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Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.

ricdesi posted:

Honestly, this is the most mindblowing thing to me. How in god's name did Doug let some other schmuck get the rights to his character (and as a result, his likeness as said character)? How can you be so horrific at negotiation that you give up the rights to the thing that made you famous in the first place? What stops Mike Michaud from waking up tomorrow and saying "Nah, gently caress it, the Nostalgia Critic is dead, and if anyone tries to save it, you can talk to my lawyer"?

I'm guessing he signed over the rights at the point where TGWTG/Channel Awesome was incorporated as a legal entity, before any of his (many) characters had taken off so the magnitude of the decision wouldn't have been blindingly obvious (and Doug, as we know, sometimes misses even that).

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