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I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

corn in the bible posted:

Back in the day I tried to get onto Channel Awesome. I was in college and me and my friends would watch Doug's stuff and then moved on to watching other things; I was a big fan of Lindsay Ellis and Spoony, and from him I heard about Brad and got into his stuff. It was great! Never made it on the site, though, partly because I didn't try long enough or hard enough, really. Though for a while I used to look back and think about having missed out on this amazing opportunity to work with these amazing people and do some great, creative work.

This whole situation makes me feel like the effort I put into that, and, hell, the fact I was ever a fan of Doug Walker at all, it was all a waste. What a loving waste of time. I'm glad some good people came out of it but the Walkers are going to still be making a ton of money out of this and out of their exploitation of their employees and it makes me sick.

If you learned literally anything about writing or cameras or lighting, or if you developed any insight at all into any particular film or genre, or if you got better at it in any way, your experience was less of a waste than Doug Walker’s life to date. Ditto if you managed to do it without harming anyone or contributing to the harm of others through inaction or stupidity.

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Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Lupa interviews Elvis Restaino and they talk about the best crazy Sinbad movie out there, The Battle of the Dark Knights.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

So the Walkers are leaving or did I misread something?

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Pants Donkey posted:

So the Walkers are leaving or did I misread something?

that's a rumor from an unnamed source so take it with a whole carton of salt

DoubleCakes
Jan 14, 2015

Doug Walker reminds me of Kevin Smith in that he wants to be a great filmmaker but is unwilling to improve and learn basic technical stuff because he got ahead without knowing those things (among other things). But when it was time to come together and make something of higher caliber (the anniversary films) he wasn't willing to improve his skillset even the slightest, or at least this how it seems. Reading about how much of a technophobe he is is not surprising at all.

Am I wrong or does Rob handle all the computer stuff for Nostalgia Critic?

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything



Fun Shoe
Rob does some of it but the site itself is ran by Mike Michaud's brother iirc.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
https://twitter.com/XxdethkylexX/status/985377190551412736

https://twitter.com/ASC_JKenn/status/985376655647666176

https://twitter.com/DK_JungleKing/status/985374971588435975

Larry's picture is so stupid and yet so good and perfect for everything happening.

Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 06:08 on Apr 15, 2018

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...
https://twitter.com/trilllizard666/status/985271080410529792

I can't believe I forgot about the Inspector Gadget thing.

Max Wilco fucked around with this message at 07:20 on Apr 15, 2018

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...
EDIT: Quote is not edit.

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007

Guru Larry'a Twitter Profile posted:

Retro Gaming YouTuber, Comedian & Champion of the first annual Channel Awesome Hunger Games.

Love this man

Gnome de plume
Sep 5, 2006

Hell.
Fucking.
Yes.
Long live Channel Larry

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO
POP SONG REVIEW: "God's Plan" by Drake

Todd gives Drake props and also takes Drake down a peg(???)

Ema Nymton
Apr 26, 2008

the place where I come from
is a small town
Buglord
I was going to go to bed a few hours ago and then checked this thread and I found out about Justin turning out to be a sleazeball. :aaaaa: This is just terrible. Terrible. I feel awful that I looked up to Jewwario when I should not have.

FoldableHuman posted:

After all, Justin functionally settled the issue himself, and there's complicated issues specifically when it comes to managing the risk factor that is the GamerGate crowd...

...I have little doubt that by the time I get home tonight I'll have between a dozen and two hundred messages accusing me of all sorts of stuff simply by proximity. The self-contradicting narratives are already starting to brew, looking for a witch to hunt.

On top of it all, it pisses me off so much Gamergate scumbags coming out of the woodwork again to assert their lovely, disgusting dominating personalities to prove how right they are about... about... I don't even know what they gently caress they're trying to say. One of them has used a screenshot of the above post in which FoldableHuman predicts that he'll be accused of poo poo to accuse FoldableHuman of poo poo.

https://twitter.com/mombot/status/984812545637728256

Agggg :bang: This fucker on twitter is willfully ignoring the fact that GG people are well known to harass women. I know exactly what FoldableHuman means by "the risk factor that is the GamerGate crowd". He means that they loving harass and threaten people's lives (specifically women who accuse men of sexual misconduct). And now this shithead is acting like none of that poo poo ever happened?! :fuckoff:

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
did they even interact with each other? like ever?

Garrand
Dec 28, 2012

Rhino, you did this to me!

He's already talked about all this on his twitter feed if you want to read up about it.

https://twitter.com/FoldableHuman/status/984828065577517056

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
why do people roleplay as fake japanese housewives

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

Ema Nymton posted:

I was going to go to bed a few hours ago and then checked this thread and I found out about Justin turning out to be a sleazeball. :aaaaa: This is just terrible. Terrible. I feel awful that I looked up to Jewwario when I should not have.


On top of it all, it pisses me off so much Gamergate scumbags coming out of the woodwork again to assert their lovely, disgusting dominating personalities to prove how right they are about... about... I don't even know what they gently caress they're trying to say. One of them has used a screenshot of the above post in which FoldableHuman predicts that he'll be accused of poo poo to accuse FoldableHuman of poo poo.

https://twitter.com/mombot/status/984812545637728256

Agggg :bang: This fucker on twitter is willfully ignoring the fact that GG people are well known to harass women. I know exactly what FoldableHuman means by "the risk factor that is the GamerGate crowd". He means that they loving harass and threaten people's lives (specifically women who accuse men of sexual misconduct). And now this shithead is acting like none of that poo poo ever happened?! :fuckoff:

I think some people are angry because people knew but nobody took action.
https://twitter.com/DavidGX/status/984906018348990465
https://twitter.com/_icze4r/status/984906760036200448
https://twitter.com/Will3316/status/984907721727193088
https://twitter.com/DatingSims/status/984908086413615105
https://twitter.com/DavidGX/status/984908247130832905
https://twitter.com/sojaro/status/984906644919373825

Part of it could miscommunication or misunderstanding (Dan pointed out he didn't officially know until recently but I think some are under the impression that he knew from the beginning), but I think some are also angry about the sentiment of 'We didn't want to tell anyone, because GG would have a field day with it'.

Max Wilco fucked around with this message at 11:01 on Apr 15, 2018

DeafNote
Jun 4, 2014

Only Happy When It Rains
Arguments can be made that maybe someone might have tried to tell the victims that reporting Justin was for the best

Either way, these people are pointing fingers at way more names than the ones who actually knew about it back in 2013

And by 2018 its kinda pointless to tell anyone to report Justin....

Garrand
Dec 28, 2012

Rhino, you did this to me!

The problem is that it's a bunch of people willfully misrepresenting what's going on. Only a tiny number of people knew about what was happening when it was actually happening; this has all come out many years after his death and the only reason it came out at all is because of CA's inept responses.

The dude is loving dead; telling the world about what happened and opening up the victims to backlash helps literally nobody. These people don't actually care, they just want to feel self-righteous about how THEY would totally take down the scumbag etc.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
yeah lets take action over a dead guy

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

They’re willfully misunderstanding that the people who wrote the document about CA only found out about the abuse last week when contacted by a victim, ie long after Justin Carmichael was dead.

CA management on the other hand revealed that they knew the whole time, chose not to contact any authorities, and tried to monetize the abuser’s death.

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Max Wilco posted:

I think some people are angry because people knew but nobody took action.

The thing is, somebody did take action. Very drastic action. That kinda made the chance of further incidents impossible.

At that point, what's left? Going to court with his widow and estate? Opening yourself up to backlash from a grieving and, lets not forget, kinda crazy fan community? To gain what?

The victims said they didn't want it revealed, and it's probably because they want to move on. It was years ago, one of them admitted to going to therapy, and dragging this drama into the spotlight is not helping anyone, especially not the people who were actually hurt.

God I hope they don't get found out, because I'm pretty sure these "righteously outraged" people are gonna turn and start harassing them pretty much instantly. And that's a best case scenario.

business hammocks posted:

CA management on the other hand revealed that they knew the whole time, chose not to contact any authorities, and tried to monetize the abuser’s death.

Interestingly, I haven't seen anybody on Twitter pointing fingers at Mike Michaud and Channel Awesome yet. Gee, I wonder why? :thunk:

SatansBestBuddy fucked around with this message at 11:06 on Apr 15, 2018

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
we should just stop posting tweets made by stupid people, thanks.

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Tired Moritz posted:

we should just stop posting tweets made by stupid people, thanks.

Compared to what I've read, these are almost reasonable. The real trash hasn't and shouldn't be posted here.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


right wing assholes arguing in bad faith? well i never!

Ema Nymton
Apr 26, 2008

the place where I come from
is a small town
Buglord

business hammocks posted:

CA management on the other hand revealed that they knew the whole time, chose not to contact any authorities, and tried to monetize the abuser’s death.

I especially love how this fact looks in relation to this part of the Not So Awesome document:

Dr gonzo posted:

So my first thought is he's [Mike Michaud] already got something planned. But then he follows that up with “Nobody know who you are. They won't care about anything you're gonna put together. We're gonna have Doug or Lewis or someone put something together. Someone people actually come here to see.” ...
... I could even see his thought process: What's the only thing that sells better than sex? Death. He was thinking someone who never heard of CA finding this tribute and going “Oh, someone on this site killed themselves? What's that about? And what's this website he worked on?” It was never about the loss, it was about PROMOTING THE BRAND.

It's strange how Dr.Gonzo's outrage here is ignorant of the horrible truth yet also accurate.

Sarcopenia
May 14, 2014

Ema Nymton posted:

I was going to go to bed a few hours ago and then checked this thread and I found out about Justin turning out to be a sleazeball. :aaaaa: This is just terrible. Terrible. I feel awful that I looked up to Jewwario when I should not have.


On top of it all, it pisses me off so much Gamergate scumbags coming out of the woodwork again to assert their lovely, disgusting dominating personalities to prove how right they are about... about... I don't even know what they gently caress they're trying to say. One of them has used a screenshot of the above post in which FoldableHuman predicts that he'll be accused of poo poo to accuse FoldableHuman of poo poo.

https://twitter.com/mombot/status/984812545637728256

Agggg :bang: This fucker on twitter is willfully ignoring the fact that GG people are well known to harass women. I know exactly what FoldableHuman means by "the risk factor that is the GamerGate crowd". He means that they loving harass and threaten people's lives (specifically women who accuse men of sexual misconduct). And now this shithead is acting like none of that poo poo ever happened?! :fuckoff:

I know Dan has already seen this because he responded to it but it still skeeves me out to post that kind of thing about someone we know reads this thread.

Ema Nymton
Apr 26, 2008

the place where I come from
is a small town
Buglord

Sarcopenia posted:

I know Dan has already seen this because he responded to it but it still skeeves me out to post that kind of thing about someone we know reads this thread.

You mean me, or whoever it was that screencapped it and put it on twitter? Either way, sorry. :smith: It just makes me really angry that FoldableHuman has to deal with this poo poo.

Sarcopenia
May 14, 2014

Ema Nymton posted:

You mean me, or whoever it was that screencapped it and put it on twitter? Either way, sorry. :smith: It just makes me really angry that FoldableHuman has to deal with this poo poo.
Mostly you because twitter is an uncontrollable trash heap (this place is more like a trashcan that you can somewhat empty out once in a while). The feeling is mutual my goon. :smith:

BobbyK posted:

Are there any internet review people who are not boring rear end white people?
I found a bunch some time ago but most of them stopped making essays 1-2 years ago. A lot of them are film makers so I think that they went on to do film stuff instead.

Tope Ogundare
Male Love through female eyes
https://vimeo.com/160059496
The ups and downs of modern Africanity
https://vimeo.com/142488971
Website
https://theoddemployment.com/

Nelson Carvajal
Spike Lee’s Vital “Chi-Raq”
https://vimeo.com/160847591

Art Regard
Martin Scorsese and the Art of Cinematic Storytelling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4670xQnsxbQ

Raging Cinema
Why Props Matter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4XDvZKntpA

Beyond the Frame
Smartphones in Cinema and TV - A Missed Opportunity?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8DfxeK0vto
Kevin B. Lee
The Spielberg Face
https://vimeo.com/199572277

Ivana Brehas
Consent In Cinema
Content Warning for sexual assault.
https://vimeo.com/194215274
And something fun.
https://vimeo.com/249150186

Every Frame a Painting officially stopped doing videos last year but are great.
Vancouver Never Plays Itself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojm74VGsZBU

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


irate gamer is objectively the best internet personality. don't @ me.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Tired Moritz posted:

we should just stop posting tweets made by stupid people, thanks.

yea it'd be cool if we didn't just blindly post tweets from mentally ill racists trying to convince people that as long as you ignore like half the conversation it just so happens someone they already hate is basically doing Pizzagate But With Youtubers. Like, no one actually needs to know what loving Mombot thinks, no one should give a poo poo because she's loving insane.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009

Garrand posted:

He's already talked about all this on his twitter feed if you want to read up about it.

https://twitter.com/FoldableHuman/status/984828065577517056

Is that before or after twitter expanded the character limit of a tweet? Checkmate :smug:

Tracula
Mar 26, 2010

PLEASE LEAVE

Baka-nin posted:

Before this thread gets started I think we should all take a moment of reflection and look at the last threads wall of shame.



Huzzah I was only #14!

Tracula
Mar 26, 2010

PLEASE LEAVE

Groovelord Neato posted:

right wing assholes arguing in bad faith? well i never!

Arguably isn't this what Goons always have done forever tho?

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Tracula posted:

Huzzah I was only #14!

I still don't know how I landed as king of the poo poo pile. I thought my staying out of most derails would drop me down some but the numbers don't lie.

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005


Arcsquad12 posted:

I still don't know how I landed as king of the poo poo pile. I thought my staying out of most derails would drop me down some but the numbers don't lie.

You contribute a lot of links and on-topic discussion. The derails stand out because they're annoying, and have been pretty bad lately, but most of everyone's posts before that were probably on-topic discussion.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Puppy Time posted:

You contribute a lot of links and on-topic discussion. The derails stand out because they're annoying, and have been pretty bad lately, but most of everyone's posts before that were probably on-topic discussion.

I guess so. I just never thought I posted THAT much. I've got a good two hundred post lead on the nearest contender.

Changing topics I hope someday HBomb does a video essay on Jordan Peterson because hoo boy that jerk is a smug piece of work.

Baka-nin
Jan 25, 2015

Arcsquad12 posted:

I guess so. I just never thought I posted THAT much. I've got a good two hundred post lead on the nearest contender.

Changing topics I hope someday HBomb does a video essay on Jordan Peterson because hoo boy that jerk is a smug piece of work.


:smugdog:

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Give it some time I'll pull ahead again.

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Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer
Makes me glad I'm only using this thread as a handy source to get new and interesting videos to watch. This way, I'm perfectly safe from ever showing up in that statistic!

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