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##vote Harold That seems too specific to be uninformed
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# ? Apr 14, 2018 23:10 |
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 08:06 |
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Got my role. Yeah, seems to be a lot of setup spec going on. Harold Krell posted:It is important to mention that the OP also mentions that this is a very role-lite mafia game, so it can even be fathomed that there may be no way of recruiting people at all. I agree this is pretty specific for the incredible lack of solid info town would have at this point.
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# ? Apr 14, 2018 23:41 |
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:##vote Harold Why would you make this assumption? If I was scum, how would it benefit me by explaining this out loud? Dick Bastardly posted:I agree this is pretty specific for the incredible lack of solid info town would have at this point. I have played mafia games before that had weird role setups, even supposedly role-lite games. To say what I'm doing is wrong is to favor less posting from players, which is objectively wrong. It's day 0 and we can only speculate right now, but that's better than lurking.
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# ? Apr 14, 2018 23:56 |
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Cult recruit me ASAP tia Also ##vote krell
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 00:42 |
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Retro Futurist posted:Cult recruit me ASAP tia That's not nice
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 01:02 |
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Harold Krell posted:Why would you make this assumption? If I was scum, how would it benefit me by explaining this out loud? Uhh we should give the other players some time to participate; before accusing them of lurking. The entry length for this game has been pretty long. So I think it’d be pretty understandable to take a little bit to get in here
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 01:36 |
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Dick Bastardly posted:That's not nice That's okay. That just looks to be a joke-vote. You can tell because it's just a one sentence supposedly "funny" (it's not) response followed by a vote. It kinda really sucks that some people will just place votes willy-nilly at the start of the day to encourage a rushed lynch. And it really doesn't help when people dog-pile just for the sake of it either.
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 01:41 |
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Dick Bastardly posted:Got my role. Yeah, seems to be a lot of setup spec going on. It all follows pretty logically from the OP. Mord has years' worth of modded games tracked on votefinder and none of them appear to include language about shifting alignments, so that's probably significant. Cults are the standard way to switch alignments, and most likely in a game described as very light on roles. There is at least one nightkill, and no other night actions, which means that anything that switches alignments does so in a way other than a night action. Could also be a red herring and it's just votes and nightkills, but there's nothing that seems out of place in the train of thought.
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 01:47 |
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I R SMART LIKE ROCK posted:Uhh we should give the other players some time to participate; before accusing them of lurking. The entry length for this game has been pretty long. So I think it’d be pretty understandable to take a little bit to get in here You've completely misread my statement. Please read it again. I said that the fact that people post to speculate at the very beginning does NOT make them more inclined to be scum. Of course it will takes some time before other players begin posting as well (although they SHOULD already have done so just to confirm their participation, this is a sensible request ). I am not calling out lurkers right now, especially since the game just started a few hours ago. Please don't put words in my mouth and start spouting off how I'm attacking players that haven't even posted yet. Thank you.
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 01:48 |
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Keane, on the other hand, has a very guilty look about him. We should vote for him.
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 01:49 |
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good morning i don't know how useful setup spec will be yet but i dont see krells or aas posts as suspicious yet. gives us content, if thats all they've focused on by tomorrow then it may start to look suss. I R SMART LIKE ROCK posted:Uhh we should give the other players some time to participate; before accusing them of lurking. The entry length for this game has been pretty long. So I think itd be pretty understandable to take a little bit to get in here i did not get this read at all with the cult stuff, we may be dealing with one but we also might be seeing changes to the general rule list as a result of dbz. time will tell all.
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 02:30 |
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zzyzx posted:Keane, on the other hand, has a very guilty look about him. We should vote for him. Is it because he hasn't checked in yet?
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 03:52 |
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:I don't know if the nod to the possibility of alignment changing is confirming that as a mechanicn beyond the strong suggestion, but I imagine it's going to turn reads in their head in short order. Anomalous Amalgam posted:##vote Harold Setup spec is usually a hallmark of scum discussion as it gives no inferences to alignment and generates the illusion of content, but all this is just silly. It strikes me as pointless at worse. It doesn't seem very fair to Krell to call them out on this point when you started the line of discussion. I presume you're just stirring the pot? Atomic Soda posted:good morning this is a total non-comment and I don't like it. Why, as town, would you feel the need to chime in with this? ##vote Atomic Soda Dick Bastardly posted:Is it because he hasn't checked in yet? Dicky Bee this is clearly a joke.
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 04:06 |
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Somberbrero posted:
you're asking why i, as town, would post on the current topic of conversation? i'll break it down. - i read aa's and krells comments on setup and i do not read either post as scum post at this stage, though its notable for aa to call krell out. i'm a bit suss of retro jumping on to vote krell - i dont like irsmartlikerocks read of the krell post re: lurkers. - during/after dbz there was some discussion of whether or not a general "this game may have alignment changes" note should be added to the general mafia rule set/op. i don't know whether this is the case this game or if we have alignment changes but given it was being discussed i thought i would note this. i'm interested in why you think my post was a 'non-comment'.
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 04:32 |
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Atomic Soda posted:you're asking why i, as town, would post on the current topic of conversation? i'll break it down. Posting on the topic of conversation is one thing, but to post on the topic of conversation and not say anything meaningful about it is another. as i'm typing this though i realize i'm being over-aggressive and misreading. mea culpa, retracted. i missed the original context of that smartrocks post.
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 05:16 |
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Sorry I lost the time I should get a new WATCH.
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 05:29 |
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Keane are you scum?
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 06:14 |
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What confused me a little bit was the talk about a werewolf style character. But even if Harold were scum, how would they know about a role that'd only really make sense as 3P? They'd have to be the 3P themselves which makes no sense to "speculate" the info out into the open. Anyway, after doing some early reads, I'm still not 100% on Harold. But what strikes me as odd is how quickly people jumped on them. Their spec is really weird - but, more so than anything, it's not even really commenting on scum teams, in my opinion. It seems more of a really weird 3P speculation to me. Which a scum-team wouldn't really know about either. What I think is, that this is a scum team trying to jump on a scumslip that doesn't exist. But I don't think it's AA, either. Their post is so short it feels like they didn't properly analyze Harold's post. More so than anything Rock's post stands out to me, although I'm not quite sold on Retro either. I R SMART LIKE ROCK posted:Uhh we should give the other players some time to participate; before accusing them of lurking. The entry length for this game has been pretty long. So I think itd be pretty understandable to take a little bit to get in here This just feels so grasping to me. This early there's literally nothing else to talk about other than setup spec, so I find the scum accusations on that front bogus anyway. But this post right here just feels... forced. As if trying to direct attention even more towards Harold, who made a weird post and already has some heat over it. While I admit this part is grasping at straws, but them not voting Harold after clearly having read their posts and trying directing their attention their way may be an attempt at having a defense of "Well I didn't vote them!" if Harold should flip town. It may be a bit early, but I don't really like what Rock's few posts so far have been trying to do. As such, ##vote I R SMART LIKE ROCK (This is how you vote correctly, right?)
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 10:55 |
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quote:##vote I R SMART LIKE ROCK Mafia edit
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 10:56 |
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Triple post to actually ##Vote I R SMART LIKE ROCK
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 11:19 |
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##vote I R SMART LIKE ROCK
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 11:19 |
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Somberbrero posted:Posting on the topic of conversation is one thing, but to post on the topic of conversation and not say anything meaningful about it is another. if you misread, why are you still voting for me? Yami Fenrir posted:Mafia edit quoting it won't work i think you'll need to repost w bolding if you want to vote.
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 11:20 |
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##vote I R SMART LIKE ROCK FIFTH TIMES THE CHARM, I'M GOOD AT MAFIA GUYS
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 11:22 |
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Yami Fenrir posted:
this also stood out to me, maybe scum looking for something to back up a case moving a bit too quickly. ##vote irsmartlikerock
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 12:20 |
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Hello friends! And Harold!
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 13:01 |
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Dick Bastardly posted:Keane are you scum? No I am have the most powerful town role.
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 13:16 |
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Hal Incandenza posted:Hello friends! And Harold! Hi Hal, are you scum? If not who? CCKeane posted:No I am have the most powerful town role. Oh ok, good
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 15:24 |
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I see what you guys mean about IRSLR grasping to shade krell. Krell was (obviously, I think) stating that he/she values set-up spec posts over no posts, and would rather do the former versus the latter. But IRSLR somehow tries to twist that against krell by making it look like a lurker call out. Interesting.
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 15:33 |
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Yami Fenrir posted:What confused me a little bit was the talk about a werewolf style character. But even if Harold were scum, how would they know about a role that'd only really make sense as 3P? They'd have to be the 3P themselves which makes no sense to "speculate" the info out into the open. So you don’t like the fact that I said we should give players some time to post? Harold’s next post is them saying everyone should have posted already as a courtesy Harold Krell posted:You've completely misread my statement. Please read it again. Anyway, I don’t think Harold is scum. I just don’t like that kind of behavior. We had a bunch of townies that got lynched due to timezone mismatches that made it seem like they were lurking in the dbz mafia 2 game and I don’t want a repeat Also trying to get a vote going this early into the first day is kinda scummy
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 15:55 |
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I R SMART LIKE ROCK posted:So you don’t like the fact that I said we should give players some time to post? Harold’s next post is them saying everyone should have posted already as a courtesy I don't like your tortured attempt at misinterpreting what he's saying. Asking people to confirm their participation isn't wrong either.
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 16:08 |
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Hey I'm up in this let me know when joke phase is over
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 18:28 |
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Atomic Soda posted:this also stood out to me, maybe scum looking for something to back up a case moving a bit too quickly. ##vote irsmartlikerock your vote appears to have failed and added a vote to yourself, just fyi.
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 18:43 |
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Nutsack Rangoon posted:Hey I'm up in this let me know when joke phase is over forever
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 19:46 |
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Krell’s very presence distorts reality and corrupts games at their source. He needs to be removed before anymore damage is done.
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 20:51 |
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Dick Bastardly posted:Hi Hal, are you scum? If not who? Yes I am the scum good job DB. Actually let me pore over the 40 posts in this game so I can definitively tell you the scum team hang on
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 23:58 |
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OK done AA is the scum ##vote AA good job team
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# ? Apr 15, 2018 23:59 |
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Somberbrero posted:Posting on the topic of conversation is one thing, but to post on the topic of conversation and not say anything meaningful about it is another. I always appreciate when someone posts like this, so thank you Somber
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# ? Apr 16, 2018 00:00 |
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I would also vote DB for telling us helpful things like "I got my role" and asking hard hitting incisive questions like "are you scum?"
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# ? Apr 16, 2018 00:02 |
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Hal Incandenza posted:OK done AA is the scum ##vote AA Was it this post? Anomalous Amalgam posted:I don't know if the nod to the possibility of alignment changing is confirming that as a mechanicn beyond the strong suggestion, but I imagine it's going to turn reads in their head in short order. Or this one? Anomalous Amalgam posted:##vote Harold
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# ? Apr 16, 2018 00:12 |
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Mostly the first one
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