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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Hasn't poker always been the more popular card game in televised media?

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AkumaHokoru
Jul 20, 2007

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Hasn't poker always been the more popular card game in televised media?

I remember before the WSOP/online hold em got super popular they didnt really put cards on tv or it was on like espn 3

Sash!
Mar 16, 2001


Poker has always been a TV staple, in fiction. It's got a more blue collar vibe, isn't the go-to for casino scenes like blackjack or roulette or craps (talk about something that doesn't make sense), and can easily be played at the kitchen table.

Love me some blackjack even if I am terrible at it. Although I wish you could gamble on backgammon in more places because I'm awesome at backgammon.

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.
What was 21 trying to say during that meeting in season six episode 2 with the Monarch and Dr. Girlfriend where they kept interrupting him

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Was a bit of a plot hole when Casino Royale changed it to Texas Hold-Em poker or whatever, because that's more luck-based than the card-counting skill that Bond's strategy in the original book relied on, iirc.

Of course, Brock enjoys poker more, as you can experience for yourself.

You can math your way to a big edge in poker as well. The bad guy gives a hint of this early in the movie where he tells someone their odds of hitting the outside straight they're chasing.

The bigger issue is how insane that hand is. There's four players in it (why not just a one-on-one between Bond and the guy he's trying to bankrupt?) and their hands are flush, full house, higher full house, and straight flush. It's bananas.

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

lol because it’s a movie and high card high card one pair two pair isn’t dramatic at all

ApathyGifted
Aug 30, 2004
Tomorrow?

theflyingexecutive posted:

lol because it’s a movie and high card high card one pair two pair isn’t dramatic at all

Yeah, same thing at the end of Maverick, which has a royal flush beating a straight flush and four of a kind.

Phenotype
Jul 24, 2007

You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance.



Those hands also tend to be where the big money gets kicked in. If it's high card high card one pair two pair, it's a lot easier for any of those guys to fold. With a high full house, it's a lot harder to fold to a possible straight flush.

LividLiquid
Apr 13, 2002

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

Are You There, God? It's Me, Dean is also a quality starter episode.

...gently caress, now I want to do a VB marathon.
This person gets it.

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit
Going through the show with the commentary. I love that they open season three's commentary with Doc Hammer saying that 24 dies in the season.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006
I just watched the low-budget indie comedy/"horror" movie Dave Made a Maze, which happens to star a Mr. James Urbaniak. It was a lot of fun, and it's on Hulu, for anyone who has it.

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit
Oh Jesus nearly every episode in season 3 they mention 24's upcoming death. This season's commentary is the best so far and I hope it gets better with each season. gently caress, I can't believe I've seen the show so many times without delving into the commentary.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
When I listen to the commentaries, slowly Doc and Jackson just turn into Pete and Billy. Especially Jackson, he really does sound like Billy without the lisp.

THough they straight up admit if they need some stuff for an episode they just have the two of them talk to each other. Like Watch and Ward.

"How many Yaz albums for you have on this thing?"

limp dick calvin
Sep 1, 2006

Strepitoso. Vedete? Una meraviglia.
I've never listened to the commentaries. I suck. I think all my old DVDs are still at my parents house

DoctorWhat
Nov 18, 2011

A little privacy, please?

Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:

I just watched the low-budget indie comedy/"horror" movie Dave Made a Maze, which happens to star a Mr. James Urbaniak. It was a lot of fun, and it's on Hulu, for anyone who has it.

I just watched it due to this post and it's like someone read House of Leaves and turned it into Escape From the House of Mummies. Recommended.

AkumaHokoru
Jul 20, 2007
I am also on the no-commentary crew. I am going to remedy this through the week.

VictorianQueerLit
Aug 25, 2017
They talk about such random poo poo most of the time but there is interesting stuff buried in there. Most of the stuff that jumps to mind is the cut content.

One of my favorite things is that the investors were supposed to be comical draculas but they couldn't think of a third famous dracula voice so they had to write them to be silent.

Or that Scaramantula's tragic backstory was that children made fun of him for having eight fingers on one hand.

VictorianQueerLit fucked around with this message at 11:37 on Apr 16, 2018

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

VictorianQueerLit posted:

They talk about such random poo poo most of the time but there is interesting stuff buried in there. Most of the stuff that jumps to mind is the cut content.

One of my favorite things is that the investors were supposed to be comical draculas but they couldn't think of a third famous dracula voice so they had to write them to be silent.

Or that Scaramantula's tragic backstory was that children made fun of him for having eight fingers on one hand.

Shouldn't have been that hard, Bela Lugosi, Christopher Lee, Gary Oldman, boom three famous Dracula's, all with distinct voices

Bell_
Sep 3, 2006

Tiny Baltimore
A billion light years away
A goon's posting the same thing
But he's already turned to dust
And the shitpost we read
Is a billion light-years old
A ghost just like the rest of us
Or Leslie Nielsen.

Omnomnomnivore
Nov 14, 2010

I'm swiftly moving toward a solution which pleases nobody! YEAGGH!
Like all good commentaries, they also frequently make fun of people who listen to commentaries.

Shindragon
Jun 6, 2011

by Athanatos
Yeah, also it's more of like a podcast, they tend to go why the hell would we comment on our work? It feels like self wank.

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit
They'll often point out animation mistakes or things they wanted done differently and it's really neat.

TK-42-1
Oct 30, 2013

looks like we have a bad transmitter



I still stare at Myra’s burnout. It hosed up one of my all time favorite scenes.

Shindragon
Jun 6, 2011

by Athanatos
My favorite one was Dermot's mom, apparently on fan forums people were trying to match the siloute to figure out who it is and they admited they just used a generic character model because at the time they didn't really had an idea who Dermot's mom was gonna be.

Also because of the commentaries, I now am very aware of the background characters and how often they use/recycle them in crowded scenes.

IUG
Jul 14, 2007


TK-42-1 posted:

I still stare at Myra’s burnout. It hosed up one of my all time favorite scenes.

Her burnout?

TK-42-1
Oct 30, 2013

looks like we have a bad transmitter



IUG posted:

Her burnout?

When she sees brock in the road she pulls a uturn and burns out. Look at the tires they look awful and I never would have noticed if Jackson didn’t point it out and groan.

JethroMcB
Jan 23, 2004

We're normal now.
We love your family.
The best thing about the commentaries is how they will go off on a joking tangent about something like "Oh yeah, next season we're going to introduce a flamboyant gay character whose catchphrase is 'Boom! Yummy.'", and then five years later when the new season begins you realize that they actually followed through on it.

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

Saint Cloud shows up SO MUCH before he becomes a person.

The latest season is sort of disappointing, since it doesn't get any of that sort of fractal complexity of characters getting introduced and then bumping around against everything, since almost all the new characters die the episode they're introduced, in addition to most of the newer characters from the previous season not being around.

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

twistedmentat posted:

When I listen to the commentaries, slowly Doc and Jackson just turn into Pete and Billy. Especially Jackson, he really does sound like Billy without the lisp.

THough they straight up admit if they need some stuff for an episode they just have the two of them talk to each other. Like Watch and Ward.

"How many Yaz albums for you have on this thing?"

You've got them backwards. Doc Hammer is the one who voices Billy and 21 and dresses like a vampire in real life

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.
I was confused the same way because Pete White seems to be based on Doc Hammer but isn't voiced by him. And they just look like their voices would be the other way around

tarlibone
Aug 1, 2014

Am I a... bad person?
AM I??




Fun Shoe

TK-42-1 posted:

When she sees brock in the road she pulls a uturn and burns out. Look at the tires they look awful and I never would have noticed if Jackson didn’t point it out and groan.

He (or Hammer?) pointed out a similar issue at the end of The Invisible Hand of Fate, when Brock pulls Adrian off the road to park by Pete White's trailer. It's just... ugly animation, sorry to say. Awkward.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
All venture bros is beautiful

Shindragon
Jun 6, 2011

by Athanatos
The one thing they kept consistent through the commentary is how they just don't like Baron Underbite at all because they can't really think of anything to do with him.

Only took the last season to finally kill him off. :v:

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

Shindragon posted:

The one thing they kept consistent through the commentary is how they just don't like Baron Underbite at all because they can't really think of anything to do with him.

Only took the last season to finally kill him off. :v:

Pretty sure he isn't dead, far as I can tell Zero was the only for sure casualty of the Revenge Society from their Gargantua 2 mission(and honestly knowing this show I don't consider any death as being 100% written in stone)

VictorianQueerLit
Aug 25, 2017
I want to see the Colonel Gentleman spinoff they wrote as a writing exercise that was apparently as outrageous and lewd as they could possibly make it.

drrockso20 posted:

Pretty sure he isn't dead, far as I can tell Zero was the only for sure casualty of the Revenge Society from their Gargantua 2 mission(and honestly knowing this show I don't consider any death as being 100% written in stone)

They can just bring them back if they want. Catclops/Girl Hitler and all of them died when Underbite blew them up the first time and Colonel Gentleman was actually dead but he was such a big bastard they wanted to write for him again.

tarlibone
Aug 1, 2014

Am I a... bad person?
AM I??




Fun Shoe

drrockso20 posted:

Pretty sure he isn't dead, far as I can tell Zero was the only for sure casualty of the Revenge Society from their Gargantua 2 mission(and honestly knowing this show I don't consider any death as being 100% written in stone)

Watch it with that.

Over on the old Adult Swim boards, before they changed it from a relatively standard forum organized by topic (like, say, Something Awful) to a low-rent Reddit clone whose disorganization precluded actually discussing any of the shows, one thing that kept coming up was this whole contingent of Venturoos who swore up and down that Jonas Venture was alive.

Their favorite refrain: "blah blah blah Action Man said Dr. Entmann was the first to go blah blah blah that can't possibly mean what it means in all other similar fictional scenarios where they're not talking about people killed in battle but instead people who die off after retirement blah blah blah Jonas is alive because every line of dialog by every character is to be taken totally literally and is thus canon!"

So, don't start with this stuff about not believing in deaths on the show. Only a world-class idiot would say something that gave that "debate" a chance to start anew.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS
24 is definitely dead.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong
Jonas Venture actually died in college. Someone who knew him well was able to use his superscience stuff and some of the Venture family superscience stuff to transform himself to look like Jonas. Jonas "died" to the outside world only many decades later when the transformation process finally started to break down, and that character ended up finding a way to fake "Jonas" dying. That character is still alive to this day (in his own body, but he's looking younger than he should because his body didn't age while superscience transformed) and his name is....

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS
Also the orphan from the joy can.

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drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

VictorianQueerLit posted:

I want to see the Colonel Gentleman spinoff they wrote as a writing exercise that was apparently as outrageous and lewd as they could possibly make it.


They can just bring them back if they want. Catclops/Girl Hitler and all of them died when Underbite blew them up the first time and Colonel Gentleman was actually dead but he was such a big bastard they wanted to write for him again.

That's what I mean

tarlibone posted:

Watch it with that.

Over on the old Adult Swim boards, before they changed it from a relatively standard forum organized by topic (like, say, Something Awful) to a low-rent Reddit clone whose disorganization precluded actually discussing any of the shows, one thing that kept coming up was this whole contingent of Venturoos who swore up and down that Jonas Venture was alive.

Their favorite refrain: "blah blah blah Action Man said Dr. Entmann was the first to go blah blah blah that can't possibly mean what it means in all other similar fictional scenarios where they're not talking about people killed in battle but instead people who die off after retirement blah blah blah Jonas is alive because every line of dialog by every character is to be taken totally literally and is thus canon!"

So, don't start with this stuff about not believing in deaths on the show. Only a world-class idiot would say something that gave that "debate" a chance to start anew.

You seem to be misinterpreting my words

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