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I’m suspicious of Keane’s, because I expect better of him. Other than that this is the only thing to really catch my eye Sandwolf posted:C'mon dude, I know this is a joke, but I agree. I think your obvious breadcrumbing is more scummy than town. It's effectively a completely safe gambit for scum to pull, and pretty risky as an actual town power role. Unless you're not a power role, in which case, I still think it makes more sense for scum to pull. Rock is town, unless the rest of the scum team are new/not posting in the scumdoc whatsoever. Also DB is probably town, all the cases on him are the same ones I’ve watched him get killed for as town in the last year or so
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Sandwolf posted:You must be a hell of an autodidact, Yami, because your posting really does not strike me as that of a new player. Sandwolf posted:C'mon dude, I know this is a joke, but I agree. I think your obvious breadcrumbing is more scummy than town. It's effectively a completely safe gambit for scum to pull, and pretty risky as an actual town power role. Unless you're not a power role, in which case, I still think it makes more sense for scum to pull. Sandwolf posted:You must be a hell of an autodidact, Yami, because your posting really does not strike me as that of a new player. I don't know why this is even up for debate. The fact that I've not taken part in any other mafia games is verifable. But I know what you're trying to imply here, and I'm going to tell you why it's bullshit. You're implying that I'm scum and being told what to post by another player. But you know why it's bogus? Because I post way too much for that. I'm constantly drawing attention to myself via posting, and I'm scumhunting. A scum teammate would be telling me to not be so incredibly obvious about being tutored, as well. But let me tell you why I stick out to you so much. Because you're scum, and know I'm not part on your team. You and AA are the only ones to point out the contrast between the fact I'm new to mafia games, and how experienced my posting seems. I think that town would have noticed this *eventually*. But you two noticed it *immediately*. Is it because I'm *not* on the scum team? I'm curious. Either way, Sandwolf's post history amounts to roughly this: CCKeane posted:This is a lot of words to say nothing. Even their prod towards me feels regurgiated from AA. If AA didn't tell them to do it, that is. The fact that AA went quiet after trying to jump on Harold does not sit well with me either. Did they realize their bandwagon attempt failed and are now trying to lay low? Either way, Sandwolf is barely providing the illusion of content as is, and the only thing worthwhile they've done is their prodding of me. It took them two days to show up at all, and then all they do is throw shade at people. No casing, no real content, no real scumhunting. Sandwolf is pinging my scumdar like crazy right now. ##vote Sandwolf
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Apr 17, 2018 06:11
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What games did you study???
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CCKeane posted:I could be swayed, what's the argument? DB is trying for the same angle that Retro tried for, and their posts are suspicious for some of the same reasons: attacks on Krell after he made some odd (but harmless) speculation that probably looked easy to capitalize on. AA starts the discussion about setup spec, and I don't necessarily see a scum strategy in the way that he opens the discussion, and then pretty much immediately goes "gotcha" to one of the first responses to him. Strikes me as over-eagerness more than a trap sprung. Once the lifting is done, though, DB and Retro both try to slide into place behind him. Unlike Retro's post, DB feels around for momentum in a very non-committal way, so that he can remain suspicious of Krell, or (if that doesn't work) the people attacking Krell, and end up pointing whichever way the wind blows. DB posted:I see what you guys mean about IRSLR grasping to shade krell. Krell was (obviously, I think) stating that he/she values set-up spec posts over no posts, and would rather do the former versus the latter. But IRSLR somehow tries to twist that against krell by making it look like a lurker call out. DB posted:I'm suss of krell for the oddly specific set-up spec, IRSLR for his twisting of krell's response (could be bussing, who knows) and now this guy/gal: The rest of it is asking people if they're scum and helpfully pointing that out the power role claims are jokes.
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I'm still surprised you've never played a game and could tell exactly what I was implying. But that case sucks, so I don't think anyone signed off on that.
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Ofc it does, it's d1 and i have no idea what I'm doing. I've seen that exact accusation (someone else feeding lines) thrown around before in... i believe it was DBZ mafia 2?. Thats how i know what you were doing.
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Retro Futurist posted:I’m suspicious of Keane’s, because I expect better of him. Ok so what in your mind is “scum DB” going to do then? This game he feels more fake than he usually does to me. I still don’t like AA either but in the interest of consolidating before I start work ##vote DB
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Apr 17, 2018 12:27
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zzyzx posted:DB is trying for the same angle that Retro tried for, and their posts are suspicious for some of the same reasons: attacks on Krell after he made some odd (but harmless) speculation that probably looked easy to capitalize on. Okay. ##vote: DB
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Dick Bastardly posted:Just because I agree with a case that isn't my own doesn't make me scum by the way. its the way they were phrased that pinged me Retro Futurist posted:I’m suspicious of Keane’s, because I expect better of him. do you think krell is scum?
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Skimmed through posts this morning on my way to work, I'm town. RF might be trying to buddy me, I'm always suss of people defending me because I think the consensus is that keeping me in the game longer is generally bad for town. I'll be at work during deadline but I'll do my damnedest to check in periodically. Didn't like the me too vote and non-posting about joke phase. ##vote Nutsack Rangoon
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Yami Fenrir posted:I don't know why this is even up for debate. The fact that I've not taken part in any other mafia games is verifable. But I know what you're trying to imply here, and I'm going to tell you why it's bullshit. that'sa spicy-a OMGUSball-a 
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I'm not inclined to vote for Yami right now because 1) I don't like to lynch presumed newbies D1 of their first game and 2) I have a tendency to mistake self-important town for scum but that's probably the scummiest post in the thread so far
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I don't like doing a million line by line quotes so I'm trying something different, sorry in advance if people hate it
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zzyzx posted:DB is trying for the same angle that Retro tried for Again, no. Not really sure what zzyzx is going for with constantly mischaracterizing my extremely straight forward vote, but I don’t love it Atomic Soda posted:do you think krell is scum? Impossible to tell
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RF since you're around can you answer this questionHal Incandenza posted:Ok so what in your mind is “scum DB” going to do then? This game he feels more fake than he usually does to me. I still don’t like AA either but in the interest of consolidating before I start work ##vote DB
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Straight White Shark posted:I'm not inclined to vote for Yami right now because 1) I don't like to lynch presumed newbies D1 of their first game and 2) I have a tendency to mistake self-important town for scum but that's probably the scummiest post in the thread so far Hmm. that is a fair point. I'm probably too biased against the people I'm reading as going on the offensive d1, especially against me. Now that I think about, the reason they stick out to me so much is probably because their content wasn't just jokeposts. I'll drop it. ##unvote
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Straight White Shark posted:RF since you're around can you answer this question Not sure, I’m not like a DB expert or anything, I just constantly see him getting killed for the same things
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Retro Futurist posted:Not sure, I’m not like a DB expert or anything, I just constantly see him getting killed for the same things If he keeps doing scummy poo poo like chaining from one vague suspicion to another that's not a good reason to not lynch him for doing scummy poo poo. I do read his vote on Nutsack as being pretty earnest, it's a pretty lonely vote and he's not really trying to start a bandwagon nor jump on one. But it's not really much more than a lurker vote so it's a fairly low risk play if he is scum. We're coming up on deadline here and I'm not sure we actually have 8 votes present if another candidate emerges though
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As the crew deliberates, everyone notices one voice is silent. You all turn to look at the one with the nickname "angry armadillo." He is sitting in an office chair staring at you all as you argue. "Well?" someone speaks up, "Do you have anything to add?" "Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh" he replies. And then slouches. His eyes are glassed over.  angry armadillo, Chung He, Space Station Scientist (Vanilla Town), died of old age (MODKILLED). Turns out his final words weren't words after all, just the sound of air escaping his lungs. He was old as hell anyway.
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Votecount for Day 1  Dick Bastardly (4): Straight White Shark, zzyzx, Harold Krell (2): Anomalous Amalgam, Retro Futurist, CCKeane, I R SMART LIKE ROCK (1): Yami Fenrir, Nutsack Rangoon (1): Dick Bastardly Anomalous Amalgam (1): Hal Incandenza, Nutsack Rangoon, Sandwolf (0): Yami Fenrir, CCKeane (0): zzyzx, Atomic Soda (0): Somberbrero, Atomic Soda, Not Voting (5): Atomic Soda, Harold Krell, I R SMART LIKE ROCK, Sandwolf, Yami FenrirWith 14 alive, it's 8 votes to execute. The current deadline is April 17th, 2018 at 9 a.m. PDT -- that's in about 43 minutes.
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I'm not familiar with Krell's history, does your policy vote have anything to do with him dropping off the face of the planet or does he usually do something else?
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-45 mins to deadline, do we have eight folks here?
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We’re getting close to the end of day. I’ve been re-reading Nutsack’s post history and they’ve got 5 posts that aren’t the initial sign-ups. There’s a vote for AA, a couple of posts about joke phase then asking Yami what previous games they’ve read. There’s no casing or really any reads; this fells like putting up the illusion of participating and not town like behavior ##vote Nutsack Rangoon
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Now that I reread the thread I'm not 100% sure why DB is getting voted so high? Yeah, their content is bad, but.. so is pretty much everyone's. And they're posting at least. Is it mostly a meta vote I don't understand? They ended up null in my read, which isn't helping my decision here.
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Straight White Shark posted:I'm not familiar with Krell's history, does your policy vote have anything to do with him dropping off the face of the planet or does he usually do something else? If I remember correctly (it's been awhile) Krell's first half dozen games kinda ended in flames or him being lynched D1, I can't remember why exactly. He may have been a shitbird but I think he tried reforming at some point to be less of a shitbird? I'm pretty sure RF's hardline stance on him is not indicative of either of their alignments, though it does strike me as the type of thing Opop would utilize as scum to get through D1. RF, if we don't lynch Krell today, what're you gonna do about it? I'm genuinely curious how you're gonna handle your own policy vote throughout the rest of the game, because if you're scum you've given yourself a backdoor to always vote him with flimsy support.
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Yami Fenrir posted:Now that I reread the thread I'm not 100% sure why DB is getting voted so high? Yeah, their content is bad, but.. so is pretty much everyone's. And they're posting at least. Is it mostly a meta vote I don't understand? They ended up null in my read, which isn't helping my decision here. I agree with this. I have no idea with DB is the vote leader right now, apart from their "I'm bad for the town anyways" Eeyore poo poo, I don't see any really scummy behavior.
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I R SMART LIKE ROCK posted:We’re getting close to the end of day. I’ve been re-reading Nutsack’s post history and they’ve got 5 posts that aren’t the initial sign-ups. There’s a vote for AA, a couple of posts about joke phase then asking Yami what previous games they’ve read. There’s no casing or really any reads; this fells like putting up the illusion of participating and not town like behavior I don't think this is a good vote, -40 mins to deadline and we're not even sure we have eight people with which to switch to someone.
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I R SMART LIKE ROCK posted:We’re getting close to the end of day. I’ve been re-reading Nutsack’s post history and they’ve got 5 posts that aren’t the initial sign-ups. There’s a vote for AA, a couple of posts about joke phase then asking Yami what previous games they’ve read. There’s no casing or really any reads; this fells like putting up the illusion of participating and not town like behavior Again, this is basically a lurker vote. sometimes that's not a terrible policy, but you haven't exactly been doing a lot of scumhunting yourself. you've been posting a lot but most of your posts are defenses of yourself or others, which feels more scummy than town.
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Sandwolf posted:I don't think this is a good vote, -40 mins to deadline and we're not even sure we have eight people with which to switch to someone. I don’t believe DB is scum and I’m not going to vote for them. So I moved on to my next pick, and I provided my reasoning. Unless you’re arguing to turbo DB I don’t see the point in this really
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Straight White Shark posted:Again, this is basically a lurker vote. sometimes that's not a terrible policy, but you haven't exactly been doing a lot of scumhunting yourself. you've been posting a lot but most of your posts are defenses of yourself or others, which feels more scummy than town. Are we going to argue about my vote or talk about why you feel DB deserves to be lynched? You voted for them earlier so I’m all ears
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Sandwolf posted:I agree with this. I have no idea with DB is the vote leader right now, apart from their "I'm bad for the town anyways" Eeyore poo poo, I don't see any really scummy behavior. I still think stuff like this is fairly bad Dick Bastardly posted:I see what you guys mean about IRSLR grasping to shade krell. Krell was (obviously, I think) stating that he/she values set-up spec posts over no posts, and would rather do the former versus the latter. But IRSLR somehow tries to twist that against krell by making it look like a lurker call out. Dick Bastardly posted:I'm suss of krell for the oddly specific set-up spec, IRSLR for his twisting of krell's response (could be bussing, who knows) and now this guy/gal:
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I R SMART LIKE ROCK posted:I don’t believe DB is scum and I’m not going to vote for them. So I moved on to my next pick, and I provided my reasoning. Unless you’re arguing to turbo DB I don’t see the point in this really So you'd rather no lynch than lynch someone on D1 who you "don't believe" is scum? I'll vote literally anyone in the game to prevent a no lynch today, can we not.
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Straight White Shark posted:I still think stuff like this is fairly bad I'm not sure I can speak for RF but isn't that exactly what he's accusing zzyzx of doing as well? Mischaracterizing his vote?
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Hmm, I don't really like this vote a lot, but I do want to avoid a no-hang. Ultimately though, they've not posted much content, and I just haven't been able to read them at all. For the sake of avoiding a no hang (pretty much only, actually), I'll #vote Dick Bastardly I'd still much rather hang Nutsack Rangoon and will switch if it looks feasible, though.
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I think I'd rather vote Nutsack if only because the pattern of his posting feels more suspicious to me. Is anyone else here?
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Yami you need 2 #’s for s vote to count. Also we have enough to lynch as with Yami‘ score it’s at -3
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Sandwolf posted:I'm not sure I can speak for RF but isn't that exactly what he's accusing zzyzx of doing as well? Mischaracterizing his vote? you lost me? I'm suspicious of DB for his non-votes
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Oh, whoops, did it again. ##vote Dick Bastardly One day I'll not screw this up...
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