hot balls man no homo posted:

Today is mtd day, right?

hot balls man no homo posted:

Today is mtd day, right?

Beet Wagon posted:

We've reached a point where the Free Fly events aren't even drawing people. I had a mosey through the "Hey Free Fly peeps, how'd you like it?" reddit thread, and 19 out of 20 responses at the time I went through there started with "Well I've owned the game for a while, but I thought it was awesome!..."

I hesitate to say something drastic like "This is the beginning of the end" because the Roberts boys always manage to find another stack of haybales to jump the General LeeBishop off of, but I think it's definitely a sign that whatever outside interest has been helping keep this game afloat for the last year or so is gone. Now we really get to watch the whales eat each other.

Agony Aunt posted:

SoftNum posted:

so cliffyB couldn't copy Overwatch right so he tried to copy PUBG poorly? Laffo.

G0RF posted:

That’s a pretty good introduction and I share similarly skeptical conclusions, though maybe have a harsher opinion of Chris at this point. He no doubt is the primary emitter of a reality distortion field — and those closest to him quickly are enveloped in it and learn the wisdom of seeing the world through his history revising, future certain lens. I think his malevolence is most palpable in how he rationalizes excusing all his former deceptions rather than close the feedback loop so he can feel contrition.

Anyway, glad you’ve signed up. Make sure you pay a visit to the links VirtualCaptain dropped in if you haven’t seen them. There’s a wealth of archived hilarity and useful resources poorly organized in this sprawling goon mess but those are good places to hit if any aren’t familiar to you...

Agony Aunt posted:

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Virtual Captain posted:

Concerning Lumberyard, I think what PederP pointed out was the most solid evidence. It is very likely their "switch" was not as easy or clean as they would like backers to believe. Chris told everyone: "I think it took us a day or so of two engineers on the engine team" which is a comically unrealistic amount of time to make the changes they claim.

Hav posted:

Everyone is chasing the golden goose because the market is saturated to gently caress with decent titles.

...

"He continues: "You'd be surprised how your average fanboy thinks with their heart and can't wrap their head around business decisions. They can't understand that I have 65 employees here that have families to support and health insurance to pay. There are legal fees, we have to keep the lights on - there's a lot that goes into business because yes, games are art but they're also commercial art. It's amazing the amount of people that tweet me saying I should make a new Gears game, or a new Jazz Jackrabbit."

Fidelitious posted:

Lowtax finally got my dollahs. I think it's only fair that I give him the same amount of money that I gave Crobbers.

Also Derek banned me from his Discord a while ago, so it's a purchase in appreciation of his banning here.
And it's Ok MOMA, I kickstarted a belt too.

big nipples big life posted:

tell us about your belt friend.

Agony Aunt posted:

Yeah, more or less from the beginning and was skeptical about how good the game would be even back during kickstarter.

D_Smart posted:

Yeah, that Kazan fellow is Derek LASTNAME (he's on LinkedIn) btw. He's a moron. Which means Shitizen candidate. I blocked him on Twitter back in 2015.

https://twitter.com/Denidil/status/651088364062375936

No, I'm not Derek LASTNAME



(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

Jason Sextro posted:

If this were Chris Roberts he'd guarantee he would make the next Gears or Jazz Jackrabbit. He already seems to honestly believe he can - on purpose - make the next Minecraft.

Dooguk posted:

Belt buddies

Agony Aunt posted:

Yeah, more or less from the beginning and was skeptical about how good the game would be even back during kickstarter.

Basically when it was announced, i took a look, was like, ok, interesting, new space games are always welcome. Watched a few demos, thought ambitious. And while i thought the earlier CR games were ok, i was never a fanboy.

Then ED was also announced, and watched the early Braben videos and thought to myself, gods, Braben couldn't sell a man dying of thirst a drink. But, at least his pitch was more reasonable. I'd been waiting for Elite 4 for a loooong time, always been an Elite fan and had resigned myself to playing Pioneer to relive the Elite experience.

When CIG released the (in)-famous helmet flip demo and the crowd went wild with that, my thoughts were: they are making a game for mentally retarded people. I was like, hells guys, its just a animation, get a loving life. It was at that point there was no way i was going to give CIG a single penny until they released a fully working game that looked decent to play. So far, that seems like a long way off.

Anyway, ED went into beta, and a friend had bought it and was telling me to get it, so i decided to give it a look, became a beta backer, and when the LEP went on offer a year later, bought it with no regrets. ED has been a solid investment for me. It gets a lot of criticism, some of it even justified, but doesn't matter, i still enjoy the game 2600 hours later. Not often a game holds my attention like that.

I kind for forgot about SC for a while, but then the Derek Smart thing kicked off, and later other sources also picked up on some things, so i started looking at the SC subreddit and the SC thread on the FD forums, and i was horrified with how things were going. Insanely increased scope, a demented fanbase (not all, there are sane backers as well, but for every sane backer there is a crazy one). I started reading the FD SC thread, the SC sub, and the refund sub. In short, i became a vocal skeptic (as opposed to earlier being a quiet skeptic).

Much later, just a few months ago, i started reading this thread, and found it to be highly entertaining. So lurked. Then just yesterday, found i couldn't read the forums any more, so decided to pay lowtax's tax. And if i'm paying, i might as well comment.

A week or so ago i requested a year ban from the SC sub forum. I've spent too much time on that sub, arguing with cultists (blocking loads because they didn't want to debate, they just went direct to insults), and trying to get the more moderate fans to manage their expectations. But too many believe the gospel of Chris, and still believe that everything CIG have promised will come true, which to my mind is an impossible task, especially since if everything was implemented as described, it would be a horrible gameplay experience.

Overall, i'm doubtful CIG will be able to keep funding going until release, which has to be years away before they have something they can call a beta. On the other hand, they keep sucking people in who throw money at the game, and there are also whales who keep putting money in. Its basically now a waiting game (while getting some lulz out of the development) to see what happens first, some sort of release or the funding drying up.

I do believe CIG have told many porkies, but i'm not sure its malicious. I think CR lives in some sort of reality warping bubble that affects those around him and those who listen to him. He really wants to make this game and believes he can do it, and that it will be good.

Do I believe CIG might release a game? Maybe.

Do I think that game will be any good? Not sure at all. Some of the mechanics they have implemented have been a bit pants, and some of the planned mechanics make FD's design decisions look sane. There might be a good game there in the end though.

Will I play it? Maybe. If its half decent. If only to target people flying big immersion chariots for a laugh.

Will it replace ED? Not a chance in hell. If i become bored of ED, i've got plenty of other games waiting to take over the title of main game for me. Plus there are other space games on the horizon which look pretty good.

Agony Aunt posted:

Yeah, more or less from the beginning and was skeptical about how good the game would be even back during kickstarter.

Basically when it was announced, i took a look, was like, ok, interesting, new space games are always welcome. Watched a few demos, thought ambitious. And while i thought the earlier CR games were ok, i was never a fanboy.

Then ED was also announced, and watched the early Braben videos and thought to myself, gods, Braben couldn't sell a man dying of thirst a drink. But, at least his pitch was more reasonable. I'd been waiting for Elite 4 for a loooong time, always been an Elite fan and had resigned myself to playing Pioneer to relive the Elite experience.

When CIG released the (in)-famous helmet flip demo and the crowd went wild with that, my thoughts were: they are making a game for mentally retarded people. I was like, hells guys, its just a animation, get a loving life. It was at that point there was no way i was going to give CIG a single penny until they released a fully working game that looked decent to play. So far, that seems like a long way off.

Anyway, ED went into beta, and a friend had bought it and was telling me to get it, so i decided to give it a look, became a beta backer, and when the LEP went on offer a year later, bought it with no regrets. ED has been a solid investment for me. It gets a lot of criticism, some of it even justified, but doesn't matter, i still enjoy the game 2600 hours later. Not often a game holds my attention like that.

I kind for forgot about SC for a while, but then the Derek Smart thing kicked off, and later other sources also picked up on some things, so i started looking at the SC subreddit and the SC thread on the FD forums, and i was horrified with how things were going. Insanely increased scope, a demented fanbase (not all, there are sane backers as well, but for every sane backer there is a crazy one). I started reading the FD SC thread, the SC sub, and the refund sub. In short, i became a vocal skeptic (as opposed to earlier being a quiet skeptic).

Much later, just a few months ago, i started reading this thread, and found it to be highly entertaining. So lurked. Then just yesterday, found i couldn't read the forums any more, so decided to pay lowtax's tax. And if i'm paying, i might as well comment.

A week or so ago i requested a year ban from the SC sub forum. I've spent too much time on that sub, arguing with cultists (blocking loads because they didn't want to debate, they just went direct to insults), and trying to get the more moderate fans to manage their expectations. But too many believe the gospel of Chris, and still believe that everything CIG have promised will come true, which to my mind is an impossible task, especially since if everything was implemented as described, it would be a horrible gameplay experience.

Overall, i'm doubtful CIG will be able to keep funding going until release, which has to be years away before they have something they can call a beta. On the other hand, they keep sucking people in who throw money at the game, and there are also whales who keep putting money in. Its basically now a waiting game (while getting some lulz out of the development) to see what happens first, some sort of release or the funding drying up.

I do believe CIG have told many porkies, but i'm not sure its malicious. I think CR lives in some sort of reality warping bubble that affects those around him and those who listen to him. He really wants to make this game and believes he can do it, and that it will be good.

Do I believe CIG might release a game? Maybe.

Do I think that game will be any good? Not sure at all. Some of the mechanics they have implemented have been a bit pants, and some of the planned mechanics make FD's design decisions look sane. There might be a good game there in the end though.

Will I play it? Maybe. If its half decent. If only to target people flying big immersion chariots for a laugh.

Will it replace ED? Not a chance in hell. If i become bored of ED, i've got plenty of other games waiting to take over the title of main game for me. Plus there are other space games on the horizon which look pretty good.

phosdex posted:

I hopped in the other guys ship because I knew I'd never figure out how to fly my own. I had problems with horizontal stuff too at the ship retrieval console, if you go too far left/right you stop "using" it. Probably should have waited for that guy to fly around but the low frame rate was driving me nuts.

Also I don't think you can really tell in the video, but when I walked on that guy's ship, the ramp was going up. That vertical movement was transferred to my char and continued until I hit the ceiling even though I was no longer on the ramp.

Songbearer posted:

Disappointed in the general lack of Schadenfruedeposts in this thread considering the game had a free weekend. C'mon, where's the delicious tears, the crushed souls, the panicked attempts to disguise disappointments? There's been a couple of drips here and there but there should be a deluge.

Colostomy Bag posted:

Yada yada you are the one that brought up tramp stamp shopping at Walmart so you are more gross.

big nipples big life posted:

tell us about your belt friend.

Songbearer posted:

Disappointed in the general lack of Schadenfruedeposts in this thread considering the game had a free weekend. C'mon, where's the delicious tears, the crushed souls, the panicked attempts to disguise disappointments? There's been a couple of drips here and there but there should be a deluge.

big nipples big life posted:

tell us about your belt friend.

Beet Wagon posted:

We've reached a point where the Free Fly events aren't even drawing people. I had a mosey through the "Hey Free Fly peeps, how'd you like it?" reddit thread, and 19 out of 20 responses at the time I went through there started with "Well I've owned the game for a while, but I thought it was awesome!..."

I hesitate to say something drastic like "This is the beginning of the end" because the Roberts boys always manage to find another stack of haybales to jump the General LeeBishop off of, but I think it's definitely a sign that whatever outside interest has been helping keep this game afloat for the last year or so is gone. Now we really get to watch the whales eat each other.

ManofManyAliases posted:

Yeah - am curious.