Agony Aunt posted:

Yeah, more or less from the beginning and was skeptical about how good the game would be even back during kickstarter.

Basically when it was announced, i took a look, was like, ok, interesting, new space games are always welcome. Watched a few demos, thought ambitious. And while i thought the earlier CR games were ok, i was never a fanboy.

Then ED was also announced, and watched the early Braben videos and thought to myself, gods, Braben couldn't sell a man dying of thirst a drink. But, at least his pitch was more reasonable. I'd been waiting for Elite 4 for a loooong time, always been an Elite fan and had resigned myself to playing Pioneer to relive the Elite experience.

When CIG released the (in)-famous helmet flip demo and the crowd went wild with that, my thoughts were: they are making a game for mentally retarded people. I was like, hells guys, its just a animation, get a loving life. It was at that point there was no way i was going to give CIG a single penny until they released a fully working game that looked decent to play. So far, that seems like a long way off.

Anyway, ED went into beta, and a friend had bought it and was telling me to get it, so i decided to give it a look, became a beta backer, and when the LEP went on offer a year later, bought it with no regrets. ED has been a solid investment for me. It gets a lot of criticism, some of it even justified, but doesn't matter, i still enjoy the game 2600 hours later. Not often a game holds my attention like that.

I kind for forgot about SC for a while, but then the Derek Smart thing kicked off, and later other sources also picked up on some things, so i started looking at the SC subreddit and the SC thread on the FD forums, and i was horrified with how things were going. Insanely increased scope, a demented fanbase (not all, there are sane backers as well, but for every sane backer there is a crazy one). I started reading the FD SC thread, the SC sub, and the refund sub. In short, i became a vocal skeptic (as opposed to earlier being a quiet skeptic).

Much later, just a few months ago, i started reading this thread, and found it to be highly entertaining. So lurked. Then just yesterday, found i couldn't read the forums any more, so decided to pay lowtax's tax. And if i'm paying, i might as well comment.

A week or so ago i requested a year ban from the SC sub forum. I've spent too much time on that sub, arguing with cultists (blocking loads because they didn't want to debate, they just went direct to insults), and trying to get the more moderate fans to manage their expectations. But too many believe the gospel of Chris, and still believe that everything CIG have promised will come true, which to my mind is an impossible task, especially since if everything was implemented as described, it would be a horrible gameplay experience.

Overall, i'm doubtful CIG will be able to keep funding going until release, which has to be years away before they have something they can call a beta. On the other hand, they keep sucking people in who throw money at the game, and there are also whales who keep putting money in. Its basically now a waiting game (while getting some lulz out of the development) to see what happens first, some sort of release or the funding drying up.

I do believe CIG have told many porkies, but i'm not sure its malicious. I think CR lives in some sort of reality warping bubble that affects those around him and those who listen to him. He really wants to make this game and believes he can do it, and that it will be good.

Do I believe CIG might release a game? Maybe.

Do I think that game will be any good? Not sure at all. Some of the mechanics they have implemented have been a bit pants, and some of the planned mechanics make FD's design decisions look sane. There might be a good game there in the end though.

Will I play it? Maybe. If its half decent. If only to target people flying big immersion chariots for a laugh.

Will it replace ED? Not a chance in hell. If i become bored of ED, i've got plenty of other games waiting to take over the title of main game for me. Plus there are other space games on the horizon which look pretty good.

TheAgent posted:

I'll also try and have an update to Love Pledge ready by then.

TheAgent posted:

Virtual Captain, I'll try and be on a show in the next 3 weeks or so. I've got a wedding at the end of the month and Ren Faire this weekend, but May is lookin' pretty good.

I'll also try and have an update to Love Pledge ready by then.

Amazing Zimmo posted:

3.1.3 has come to a PTU near you.


I get the feeling that AC and SM will go the way of SATANball.

226 posted:

https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/986302131106975749

SpaceCurtisLeMay posted:

The major place Frontier has failed with Elite has been the design of their background sim and player's interaction with it being minimal. It's not like player activity can really drive say the development of a new colony. You and friends start mining in an uninhabited system. If a threshold is reached a "Seeking Minerals" trader shows up in system. Then if another threshold is reached by selling minerals to that guy a planetary settlement appears you can land at and trade and as you bring in materials and trade goods it helps build up and expand the colony. The type of mechanics you'd need to do this actually has been added with the station rebuilding mechanics to repair stations after thargoid attacks. And then you get the fact those pesky goids always attack during downtime. There aren't galaxy wide broadcasts like "Eagle Eye has detected thargoids heading for Parrp Station in HIP 12345." Then for the next hour the station goes under attack and players can jump in and try to repel the invasion, protect evacuation ships, etc.. Nope, all happens on galnet in the game. The social-economic-political aspects of the game have been a disaster with crap tacked as added layers instead of an integrated design. And god forbid players not play they way the envisioned...nope, got to roll that poo poo back...

Agony Aunt posted:

Did you mean to post in this thread? https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3741690&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=854

Quavers posted:

Agony Aunt posted:

Yeah, more or less from the beginning and was skeptical about how good the game would be even back during kickstarter.

Basically when it was announced, i took a look, was like, ok, interesting, new space games are always welcome. Watched a few demos, thought ambitious. And while i thought the earlier CR games were ok, i was never a fanboy.

Then ED was also announced, and watched the early Braben videos and thought to myself, gods, Braben couldn't sell a man dying of thirst a drink. But, at least his pitch was more reasonable. I'd been waiting for Elite 4 for a loooong time, always been an Elite fan and had resigned myself to playing Pioneer to relive the Elite experience.

When CIG released the (in)-famous helmet flip demo and the crowd went wild with that, my thoughts were: they are making a game for mentally retarded people. I was like, hells guys, its just a animation, get a loving life. It was at that point there was no way i was going to give CIG a single penny until they released a fully working game that looked decent to play. So far, that seems like a long way off.

Anyway, ED went into beta, and a friend had bought it and was telling me to get it, so i decided to give it a look, became a beta backer, and when the LEP went on offer a year later, bought it with no regrets. ED has been a solid investment for me. It gets a lot of criticism, some of it even justified, but doesn't matter, i still enjoy the game 2600 hours later. Not often a game holds my attention like that.

I kind for forgot about SC for a while, but then the Derek Smart thing kicked off, and later other sources also picked up on some things, so i started looking at the SC subreddit and the SC thread on the FD forums, and i was horrified with how things were going. Insanely increased scope, a demented fanbase (not all, there are sane backers as well, but for every sane backer there is a crazy one). I started reading the FD SC thread, the SC sub, and the refund sub. In short, i became a vocal skeptic (as opposed to earlier being a quiet skeptic).

Much later, just a few months ago, i started reading this thread, and found it to be highly entertaining. So lurked. Then just yesterday, found i couldn't read the forums any more, so decided to pay lowtax's tax. And if i'm paying, i might as well comment.

A week or so ago i requested a year ban from the SC sub forum. I've spent too much time on that sub, arguing with cultists (blocking loads because they didn't want to debate, they just went direct to insults), and trying to get the more moderate fans to manage their expectations. But too many believe the gospel of Chris, and still believe that everything CIG have promised will come true, which to my mind is an impossible task, especially since if everything was implemented as described, it would be a horrible gameplay experience.

Overall, i'm doubtful CIG will be able to keep funding going until release, which has to be years away before they have something they can call a beta. On the other hand, they keep sucking people in who throw money at the game, and there are also whales who keep putting money in. Its basically now a waiting game (while getting some lulz out of the development) to see what happens first, some sort of release or the funding drying up.

I do believe CIG have told many porkies, but i'm not sure its malicious. I think CR lives in some sort of reality warping bubble that affects those around him and those who listen to him. He really wants to make this game and believes he can do it, and that it will be good.

Do I believe CIG might release a game? Maybe.

Do I think that game will be any good? Not sure at all. Some of the mechanics they have implemented have been a bit pants, and some of the planned mechanics make FD's design decisions look sane. There might be a good game there in the end though.

Will I play it? Maybe. If its half decent. If only to target people flying big immersion chariots for a laugh.

Will it replace ED? Not a chance in hell. If i become bored of ED, i've got plenty of other games waiting to take over the title of main game for me. Plus there are other space games on the horizon which look pretty good.

Mr Fronts posted:

Welcome! Grab a seat, slip a cargo crate onto your right leg, and make yourself at home.

Then clip through the floor, distort your human frame into a horrific bendy thing, and squirt those nipple jets.

Virtual Captain posted:

Well yeah, the idea that it really did take them 2 days because they haven't made any improvements is actually funnier to me, so I'm fine with this.


Star Citizer: (also broken atm)

Virtual Captain posted:

I'm stream-watching Calling all devs and then without stopping we will move into ARGcast Episode 4 with Bootcha, Beet Wagon, Dapper Don, and myself.

https://www.twitch.tv/virtual_captain

a cyberpunk goose posted:

Someone give me the latest legal updates please

eonwe posted:

im kidding beet wagon im sorry we fought

CrazyTolradi posted:

Anime is a gateway drug.

Just say no.

Gamesguy posted:

The two parties argued in front of the magistrate, who dismissed CIG's motion to limit discovery because technically they don't have to respond to discovery till a schedule has been set by the court. Early discovery(what Crytek is pushing for) is "highly recommended but not required".

CrazyTolradi posted:

Anime is a gateway drug.

Just say no.

Malachite_Dragon posted:

What about Tokusatsu?
https://i.imgur.com/rRuhnQL.gifv

Malachite_Dragon posted:

Oh there's ways of dealing with that!
https://i.imgur.com/7ObT2OL.gifv

quote:

ORDER ON SUBMITTED MATTER by Magistrate Judge Frederick F. Mumm: denying30 Motion for protective Order controlling timing and scope of discovery pending resolution of motion to dismiss: On April 17, 2018, the Court announced a tentative ruling to deny the motion and then entertained oral argument. At the conclusion of the argument, the Court took the matter under submission. Upon further review, the Court notes that Judge Gee issued an Initial Standing Order on December 13, 2017. Paragraph 4.b. of that order addresses discovery before and after the scheduling conference. Specifically, the order provides that "it is advisable for counsel to begin to conduct discovery actively before the Scheduling Conference." Although early discovery is strongly encouraged, Judge Gee's policy is not to require the parties to participate in discovery until a scheduling order has issued. As no scheduling order has been issued in this case as of now, defendants are not required to respond to discovery at this time. The motion for stay, therefore, is moot and denied on that basis. IT IS SO ORDERED.