Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo
I'm glad I haven't bumped into censored versions of the episodes because Avasarala swearing like a sailor is just the best thing.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

right to bear karma
Feb 20, 2001

There's a Dr. Fist here to see you.
I just watched the first two seasons on Amazon and finished like a week before this season began. I didn't think I would care, but having only the censored versions DVRed is hurting my soul a little.

This show is loving amazing, by the way. The only thing I'll be missing on the Roci now is Cotyar.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
So can torpedos just do escort duty or something? Why not just have a web floating around you at all times?

right to bear karma posted:

This show is loving amazing, by the way. The only thing I'll be missing on the Roci now is Cotyar.

If Ashur doesn't get his leg working again soon I'm gonna be pissed af!

Milo and POTUS fucked around with this message at 06:21 on Apr 20, 2018

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


They run out of gas a lot faster than ships do

404notfound
Mar 5, 2006

stop staring at me

I'm already liking Anna. The actress is nailing the facial expressions, like that "now what?" glance to the side after the video call with Nono and Nami. And the pillow hug! :3:

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

"Are you a good pilot?" "No, I'm a marine."

I wasn't expecting to see Anna yet, but that's not a huge surprise considering Avasarala has been on the show the entire time. I also wasn't expecting to see Mei's friend Katoa either, but for the opposite reason - he was introduced much earlier in Caliban's War, so I thought he was just going to be written out.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Milo and POTUS posted:

yeah, there was no excuse at "tell her your fricking name"

like come the gently caress on.

He said "tell her your loving name" on the copy I downloaded, I just checked :shrug:

The show is already on Netflix basically everywhere that isn't the US, and to the annoyance of everyone there's like a 6 month delay between US and RoW air dates, I can see them buying it from SyFy if they decide to cancel it

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

Pork Pro

Milo and POTUS posted:

yeah, there was no excuse at "tell her your fricking name"

like come the gently caress on.

Yeah, I was sad they censored the live version to "forget your feelings" instead of what she obviously said. :rolleye:

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Did they genuinely air a censored version in the US on SyFy?

404notfound
Mar 5, 2006

stop staring at me

NTRabbit posted:

Did they genuinely air a censored version in the US on SyFy?

After signing up for Hulu a few months ago, I've been watching it that way instead of paying for Amazon season passes, and yeah, her language is all censored.

bitprophet
Jul 22, 2004
Taco Defender

NTRabbit posted:

The show is already on Netflix basically everywhere that isn't the US, and to the annoyance of everyone there's like a 6 month delay between US and RoW air dates, I can see them buying it from SyFy if they decide to cancel it

BTW, since this stuff comes up a lot, I thought I'd post a couple tweets/threads by Ty Franck (he's behind the authors' shared pen name Twitter account; Daniel has his own under his own name) re: the whole SyFy vs Netflix, US vs RoW, etc situation (click through for rest of thread/s):

https://twitter.com/JamesSACorey/status/986718037704232960

https://twitter.com/JamesSACorey/status/986718766426816512

He posts more (around that same time, IIRC) that I couldn't find.

The crux seems to be that Alcon, the studio, can only afford to create the show with the licensing fees they get from SyFy (i.e. those fees are some large percentage of the cost of production) and SyFy won't license without an exclusivity agreement re: distribution.

That exclusivity agreement is what prevents simultaneous worldwide distribution (despite SyFy not existing outside the US...:doh: ) and is what must be negotiated around by the VOD services like iTunes and Amazon (IIRC they agree to give SyFy some percentage of their cut in trade for morning-after distribution.)

tl;dr as has already been stated in this thread, SyFy is kind of stupid and they suck and basically capitalism is bullshit.


Re: Avasarala fuckery, I think it's just because it airs in a different time slot this season? Can't find that tweet either. I can confirm it's gloriously uncensored via Amazon Video.

Svaha
Oct 4, 2005

NTRabbit posted:

The show is already on Netflix basically everywhere that isn't the US, and to the annoyance of everyone there's like a 6 month delay between US and RoW air dates, I can see them buying it from SyFy if they decide to cancel it
God I hope so. The weakest link in this show is the SyFy network. If it gets cancelled it will be entirely because of their lackluster promotion and craptacular distribution model. Not to mention giving people every reason possible to not want to watch it live, like censorship and absurd amounts of ads.

Not very forward thinking for a network focused on futuristic stuff.

Svaha fucked around with this message at 08:28 on Apr 20, 2018

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




bitprophet posted:

(despite SyFy not existing outside the US...:doh: )

SyFy does exist outside the US though, which is the stupidest part. SyFy Australia and SyFy UK both not only exist, but are wholly owned subsidiaries of NBCUniversal, however the show is never aired on them, instead only aired on Netflix 6 months later.

a cyberpunk goose
May 21, 2007

I didn’t read the books and I am really struggling to enjoy this show, I have to imagine it’s just not transferring well because good heavens I am trying to like it and it is immensely tedious and cludgy and I basically am exhausted by all the tedious characters— the show is so stiff and lifeless half the time it’s maddening

but I consume sci-fi like junk food so I guess here I am.

Thank you for reading my post, I do not judge anyone for liking this show I just needed to vent.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
https://giant.gfycat.com/AbsoluteBlueGoldfish.mp4
https://giant.gfycat.com/EllipticalPleasantAmericancrayfish.mp4
https://giant.gfycat.com/TalkativeGrandioseCrownofthornsstarfish.mp4
https://giant.gfycat.com/SlimyWelcomeKoala.mp4
https://giant.gfycat.com/RashCrispBarbet.mp4
https://giant.gfycat.com/WaterloggedMedicalFennecfox.mp4
https://giant.gfycat.com/RepulsiveDimBigmouthbass.mp4

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS


Amos found this interior decorating idea on Pinterest.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




That's the same class of ship (read: they reused the model because costs) as the Nathan Hale, I guess it's meant to be a destroyer, given the size comparison to the Roci

NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 10:52 on Apr 20, 2018

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



a cyberpunk goose posted:

I didn’t read the books and I am really struggling to enjoy this show, I have to imagine it’s just not transferring well because good heavens I am trying to like it and it is immensely tedious and cludgy and I basically am exhausted by all the tedious characters— the show is so stiff and lifeless half the time it’s maddening

but I consume sci-fi like junk food so I guess here I am.

Thank you for reading my post, I do not judge anyone for liking this show I just needed to vent.

It's OK not to like a show. I feel the same way about Battlestar Galactica.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


There are still things about the character dynamics that bug me a lot about this show. Holden is a total rear end in a top hat for seemingly no reason other than to create drama and just comes off as unsympathetic. In general it feels like there's a lot of unnecessary backstabbing going around that could be solved by just talking to one another, which strikes me as a writing problem rather than something that adds to the characters.

As an example, the whole dilemma of whether or not to save the Razorback. It immediately struck me how much more satisfying it would've been to actually show the scene where Prax says they should help them rather than cut away after Holden says "gently caress no", and then have the whole situation be resolved when we see them 5 minutes later where they to spend time recapping what happened off-camera. Also the whole time I just wanted Alex to say "we can do both, you idiot".

It's ultimately not that big a deal, but it keeps the show from being as great as it could be, I think.

Hakkesshu fucked around with this message at 13:01 on Apr 20, 2018

Dancer
May 23, 2011

Hakkesshu posted:

There are still things about the character dynamics that bug me a lot about this show. Holden is a total rear end in a top hat for seemingly no reason other than to create drama and just comes off as unsympathetic. In general it feels like there's a lot of unnecessary backstabbing going around that could be solved by just talking to one another, which strikes me as a writing problem rather than something that adds to the characters.

As an example, the whole dilemma of whether or not to save the Razorback. It immediately struck me how much more satisfying it would've been to actually show the scene where Prax says they should help them rather than cut away after Holden says "gently caress no", and then have the whole situation be resolved when we see them 5 minutes later where they to spend time recapping what happened off-camera. Also the whole time I just wanted Alex to say "we can do both, you idiot".

It's ultimately not that big a deal, but it keeps the show from being as great as it could be, I think.

Just so it's not an empty-quote: Dear god I hope Holden dies. He was a decent character once, but now it's dragging the show way down. Side bonus that it would satisfy all those people who want this to be even more like Game of Thrones re: plot armor.

Elias_Maluco
Aug 23, 2007
I need to sleep

Hakkesshu posted:

There are still things about the character dynamics that bug me a lot about this show. Holden is a total rear end in a top hat for seemingly no reason other than to create drama and just comes off as unsympathetic. In general it feels like there's a lot of unnecessary backstabbing going around that could be solved by just talking to one another, which strikes me as a writing problem rather than something that adds to the characters.

As an example, the whole dilemma of whether or not to save the Razorback. It immediately struck me how much more satisfying it would've been to actually show the scene where Prax says they should help them rather than cut away after Holden says "gently caress no", and then have the whole situation be resolved when we see them 5 minutes later where they to spend time recapping what happened off-camera. Also the whole time I just wanted Alex to say "we can do both, you idiot".

It's ultimately not that big a deal, but it keeps the show from being as great as it could be, I think.

- NO WE ARE NOT GOING TO SAVE THE MARINE BECAUSE NOW I MADE ANOTHER PROMISE!!! WAT, DOING ONE THING AND THEN THE OTHER?? NONSENSE I NEVER HEARD OF SUCH POSSIBILITY

Holden was okay for the first 1.5 seasons, then he got into I AM MAD ABOUT THE PROTOMOLECULE mode and it sucked hard. And now I dont even know anymore what he supposed to be or want or feel

Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 13:26 on Apr 20, 2018

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Elias_Maluco posted:

And now I dont even know anymore what he supposed to be or want or feel

Seems to me that the point is he doesn't either.

Hakkesshu posted:

In general it feels like there's a lot of unnecessary backstabbing going around that could be solved by just talking to one another, which strikes me as a writing problem rather than something that adds to the characters.

I don't know about you, but to me this is far and away the most realistic aspect of the show. What kind of world are you living in where people talk to each other, and aren't backstabbing? That's basically every workplace I've ever been in, and no small portion of family get togethers.

NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 13:39 on Apr 20, 2018

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


NTRabbit posted:

I don't know about you, but to me this is far and away the most realistic aspect of the show. What kind of world are you living in where people talk to each other, and aren't backstabbing? That's basically every workplace I've ever been in, and no small portion of family get togethers.

Yes, well, it doesn't have to be realistic, just engaging, and it isn't, hence why I said it's a writing problem more than anything.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Holden gets stuck on one thing and refuses to entertain anything else.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Hakkesshu posted:

Yes, well, it doesn't have to be realistic, just engaging, and it isn't, hence why I said it's a writing problem more than anything.

It's engaging to me :shrug:

Myron
Jul 13, 2009

They had only one shot at disabling the UN ship and could have easily gotten killed or taken prisoner. Also they're now worse off than before with the ship damaged and most of their torpedos gone, so it makes a lot of sense that they didn't immediately decide to help.

Aoi
Sep 12, 2017

Perpetually a Pain.

Cojawfee posted:

Holden gets stuck on one thing and refuses to entertain anything else.

Part of tilting at windmills is being so tunnel-visioned that you can't see you're doing something wrong, or rather, that you can't see the rest of the world and reassess your choices.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Myron posted:

They had only one shot at disabling the UN ship and could have easily gotten killed or taken prisoner. Also they're now worse off than before with the ship damaged and most of their torpedos gone, so it makes a lot of sense that they didn't immediately decide to help.

They're also getting low on air and fuel, and were already pushing things a little to make that side trip to Io before getting a non-guaranteed top up at Tycho, so lots of high G burns and high speed manoeuvres, plus holes in the hull, would not have helped.

Elias_Maluco
Aug 23, 2007
I need to sleep
But anyway why such a urgency to get to Io (is that the name?)? Is not like Mei is hanging from a window or something. Not that they know, at least.

Its been quite a while since she was missing and they have no reason to believe that now they have to be in a hurry to find her

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Elias_Maluco posted:

But anyway why such a urgency to get to Io (is that the name?)? Is not like Mei is hanging from a window or something. Not that they know, at least.

Its been quite a while since she was missing and they have no reason to believe that now they have to be in a hurry to find her

:cripes:

Aoi
Sep 12, 2017

Perpetually a Pain.

Elias_Maluco posted:

But anyway why such a urgency to get to Io (is that the name?)? Is not like Mei is hanging from a window or something. Not that they know, at least.

Its been quite a while since she was missing and they have no reason to believe that now they have to be in a hurry to find her

:ohdear:

Elias_Maluco
Aug 23, 2007
I need to sleep
ok, explain to me why Im being dumb. I was kinda sleepy while watching the last episode

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Elias_Maluco posted:

ok, explain to me why Im being dumb. I was kinda sleepy while watching the last episode

You don't have a child, do you?

Johnny Truant
Jul 22, 2008




Probably nothing to do with them running low on air/food, or being in an active warzone, or JPM weaponizing the children into protomonsters, or...

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!
My child has been kidnapped by an evil corporation to use for biological weapons experiments.

But it happened a few weeks ago so I don't feel any urgency to attempt to rescue her anymore.

Elias_Maluco
Aug 23, 2007
I need to sleep

Proteus Jones posted:

You don't have a child, do you?

No, but my point is: after all the time that passed since she got missing, it dont make much sense to me that they would act like they know she's going to die if they dont get to her RIGHT NOW or something

By the way how much time has passed since Ganymede?

EDIT: I mean, sure they would be in a hurry, but not "we cant make a little detour or even go resupply and refuel before or she is gone for sure" type of hurry

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Rocksicles posted:

She said gently caress a couple of times... on my download anyway

drat. They must have gotten a lot more stringent on dubbing. Back in the previous two seasons they'd kinda mute her saying 'gently caress' after she got the 'F' out.

a cyberpunk goose posted:

I didn’t read the books and I am really struggling to enjoy this show, I have to imagine it’s just not transferring well because good heavens I am trying to like it and it is immensely tedious and cludgy and I basically am exhausted by all the tedious characters— the show is so stiff and lifeless half the time it’s maddening

It's ok. It's just not your bag.

Proteus Jones posted:

It's OK not to like a show. I feel the same way about Battlestar Galactica.

And I hope it doesn't go that route.

Myron posted:

They had only one shot at disabling the UN ship and could have easily gotten killed or taken prisoner. Also they're now worse off than before with the ship damaged and most of their torpedos gone, so it makes a lot of sense that they didn't immediately decide to help.

Plus their fuel and air problems have been made worse.

ZorajitZorajit
Sep 15, 2013

No static at all...
It is depressing that the number SyFy cares about most is live viewership. Like, I guess that makes sense since it would have the highest ticket advertisers, but there's no way I'm shelling out for cable to watch the show on someone else's schedule. Mind you, the day-long wait between live and purchased seasons is a loving chore too. SyFy, c'mon, you guys started making good genre tv again, don't gently caress it up with all this business.

Blind Rasputin
Nov 25, 2002

Farewell, good Hunter. May you find your worth in the waking world.

I dunno man, people forget. In college I worked for a hotline that would call up parents of missing kids and just remind them that their kid was still missing. Sometimes it had been years and I’d just have to say, “ma’am this is Jeff I’m calling on behalf of remembering missing kids organization and I’d like to remind you that your kid is still missing.”

So he’s got a point, the urgency isn’t always common

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Elias_Maluco
Aug 23, 2007
I need to sleep
Come on, if your kid has been kidnapped NOW it makes sense that you would drop everything and run and not think of anything else

But if its been missing for 2 months and just now you know where she is, you would probably take some time to gas up before you go to make sure you actually can get to her and back

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply