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syscall girl posted:Orson Scott Card has a lot to answer for That's a fact, he's a piece of poo poo. Enders Game is still one of my favorite books, though.
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The Bloop posted:That's a fact, he's a piece of poo poo. Enders Game is still one of my favorite books, though. A friend of mine who hasn't yet turned on OSC linked me this insane short story about a guy who gets off on chasing women on the highways of Utah (go figure) until they panic and crash and burn and then lets his little mormons explore the magic underpants until he meets his match in a woman who is doing the exact same thing. I respect that he is twizted as gently caress. His kid lit. made me the man I am today 2 4 8 16 32 64 shower rape
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Apr 22, 2018 01:17
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syscall girl posted:A friend of mine who hasn't yet turned on OSC linked me this insane short story about a guy who gets off on chasing women on the highways of Utah (go figure) until they panic and crash and burn and then lets his little mormons explore the magic underpants until he meets his match in a woman who is doing the exact same thing. This but Heinlein novels with characters who have sex with their starships or found hippy communes where everyone has orgies and telekinetic powers.
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Blue Footed Booby posted:This but Heinlein novels with characters who have sex with their starships or found hippy communes where everyone has orgies and telekinetic powers. Besides Starship Troopers I think I've Thoughtful man though, he predicted the auto-highway and loving POWER ARMOR!!!
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Apr 22, 2018 03:00
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syscall girl posted:Besides Starship Troopers I think I've A significant amount of Heinlein brainspace seems to have been dedicated to justify his protagonists hooking up with children and/or relatives. 100% of this stories with time travel have this, and he wrote quite a few.
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Apr 22, 2018 03:04
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Blue Footed Booby posted:This but Heinlein novels with characters who have sex with their starships or found hippy communes where everyone has orgies and telekinetic powers. See, with Asimov it would be someone with autism traveling around space meeting those characters, and then also explaining why it's okay to someone else.
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Apr 22, 2018 03:05
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Absurd Alhazred posted:A significant amount of Heinlein brainspace seems to have been dedicated to justify his protagonists hooking up with children and/or relatives. 100% of this stories with time travel have this, and he wrote quite a few. His genius inspired Verhoeven and to a lesser extent Matt Groening so we can all be thankful (that he's dead) e: and the opening sequence to Quake II
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Ben Affleck's son thought he was really Batman, so he bribed a Fedex delivery guy to pretend to be the Joker and fight him.
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GrossMurpel posted:What point are you even trying to make? I just sung the first verse, it's just words. And the consequences are that I'll get arrested if anyone overhears cause I'm German. god, fine. i am trying to say that this attitude is the worst: Burkion posted:Cause it don't mean poo poo. pledge whatever idgaf, just stand by it and dont force a child. jesus aaaaaaa e: singing is cool too
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E/2: orson scott card is weird and gross
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Absurd Alhazred posted:A significant amount of Heinlein brainspace seems to have been dedicated to justify his protagonists hooking up with children and/or relatives. 100% of this stories with time travel have this, and he wrote quite a few. He basically made a hobby of creating seemingly obvious self insertion characters who were overlapping yet also mutually exclusive varieties of insane. My first exposure was his fairly reasonable older stuff like Tunnel in the Sky and Citizen of the Galaxy. Then I found Starship Troopers, then Time Enough for Love. Basically imagine a thirteen year old laying in a hammock making the  face for days at a time. That summer owned.
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syscall girl posted:His genius inspired Verhoeven What? No, he barely read the book and mostly grafted the Starship Troopers IP onto an idea he already had. Total Recall was way better connected to We Can Remember It for You Wholesale.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:What? No, he barely read the book and mostly grafted the Starship Troopers IP onto an idea he already had. Total Recall was way better connected to We Can Remember It for You Wholesale. Eh, language being used loosely. ST led to a pretty good movie (with NO FUCKIGN POWER AERMOR!!!!)
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Apr 22, 2018 03:44
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syscall girl posted:Eh, language being used loosely. ST led to a pretty good movie (with NO FUCKIGN POWER AERMOR!!!!) Loose lips sink ships.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:A significant amount of Heinlein brainspace seems to have been dedicated to justify his protagonists hooking up with children and/or relatives. 100% of this stories with time travel have this, and he wrote quite a few. That's because they're all from the Lazarus Long cycle. Those books own, by the way.
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Veni Vidi Ameche! posted:That's because they're all from the Lazarus Long cycle. Those books own, by the way. No they aren't and no they don't. Examples I've read relatively recently: " 'All You Zombies' " and The Door Into Summer. In " 'All You Zombies' ", the protagonist takes his younger self to the past to gently caress his even younger self so she can become pregnant with him, then takes his newborn self to the orphanage to be raised there, then goes back to his younger self to recruit him to the timecops. In The Door Into Summer, the 30-year-old protagonist makes his friend's 12-year-old step-daughter, with which he has mutual attraction, promise she'll look him up after he goes through cold sleep so they can get married when she's old enough - but not too old, as he makes her promise she'll go into cold sleep when she's 21. Neither of them have anything to do with Lazarus Long's intergenerational fuckfest, but both are messed up in their own rights.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:No they aren't and no they don't. Well, All You Zombies gave us Predestination and for that I sincerely thank the weird old fucker
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Absurd Alhazred posted:No they aren't and no they don't. I initially had "most," but figured, "No one's going to argue about the 6% of his output relevant to this discussion that doesn't touch on Long." This is the internet, so that was my own fault. I can't tell if you're saying the two you listed aren't good, or that none of them (including the Lazarus Long stories) are good. The Long books range from pretty good to phenomenal.
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The Kins posted:
quote:Meanwhile, PM Narendra Modi himself said in October 2014 that Lord Ganesha had undergone plastic surgery via technology that Indians possessed at the time.
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Apr 22, 2018 04:39
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Veni Vidi Ameche! posted:I initially had "most," but figured, "No one's going to argue about the 6% of his output relevant to this discussion that doesn't touch on Long." This is the internet, so that was my own fault. The Long books I've read were not very good. The Cat Who Walks Through Walls I didn't finish. Of the ones I mentioned, well, the first is kind of a conceptual piece so okay, the second one is actually well written, if didactic, and has interesting ideas, but the icky part really stood out.
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Apr 22, 2018 04:49
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Absurd Alhazred posted:12-year-old step-daughter danger danger
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Absurd Alhazred posted:The Long books I've read were not very good. The Cat Who Walks Through Walls I didn't finish. That's the one I did finish. Headline: no loving cats in that book 
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Apr 22, 2018 04:55
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syscall girl posted:That's the one I did finish. jonesy!
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Absurd Alhazred posted:The Long books I've read were not very good. The Cat Who Walks Through Walls I didn't finish. Guess you just don't like them. I disagree, and think they are mostly OK, and a couple of them are phenomenal. They're full of the transgressive themes that characterized a lot of his books, but I don't find that bothersome.
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Veni Vidi Ameche! posted:Guess you just don't like them. I disagree, and think they are mostly OK, and a couple of them are phenomenal. They're full of the transgressive themes that characterized a lot of his books, but I don't find that bothersome. Note to all FBI agents monitoring these dead gay forums, this is what we call a "Red Flag".
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Veni Vidi Ameche! posted:Guess you just don't like them. I disagree, and think they are mostly OK, and a couple of them are phenomenal. They're full of the transgressive themes that characterized a lot of his books, but I don't find that bothersome. Quite.
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Pretty much all sci-fi writers have weird ideas about sex.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Pretty much all sci-fi writers have weird ideas about sex. good lord, and fantasy writers too. to be honest its weird and gross.
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syscall girl posted:A friend of mine who hasn't yet turned on OSC linked me this insane short story about a guy who gets off on chasing women on the highways of Utah (go figure) until they panic and crash and burn and then lets his little mormons explore the magic underpants until he meets his match in a woman who is doing the exact same thing. Have you read the one about the dude who chucked his dog into traffic and raped his daughter? I used to be a huge OSC fan as a kid, had his short story collections and everything. Some of his stuff was pretty messed up.
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I found his Lost Boys in the library when I was a kid, and read it. It was messed up and not really in tone with the Ender books I had read beforehand. Similarly, David Eddings` The Losers was darker and way less kid-friendly than the Belgariad and its fantasy ilk.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I found his Lost Boys in the library when I was a kid, and read it. It was messed up and not really in tone with the Ender books I had read beforehand. I mean, if you're writing a book about pedophilia might as well toss in a reference to J.M. Barrie with a side of Michael Jackson, eh? eh? Garrand posted:Have you read the one about the dude who chucked his dog into traffic and raped his daughter? I didn't. But I'm guilty of buying his dead tree books up until mid-2000s. I just got linked to some server or other like byu.edu/alumni/notporn/osc
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As someone who used to be a 12 year old girl it is entirely possible for a girl that age to have a crush on a grown rear end man. It is also possible for a girl that age or even considerably younger to act 'flirty' because kids enjoy imitating adult behavior. In neither case is the girl desperately craving the D though. It would be pretty weird for her to stick with the crush until she's 21 and then go into hypersleep or whatever the gently caress. The thing about a crush is that it isn't really about the other person as a person but as an idea, and the idea that appeals to you when you're 12 is different than the ideas that appeal to you at 20. When you are 12 the boys your own age are dumb and icky and probably eat bugs, so the idea of a grown rear end man who has his poo poo together and drinks wine looks good. By the time you're 21 you know the grown rear end men who hang out with 12 year olds definitely do not have their poo poo together. So, yeah, this is a grown rear end man who observed normal adolescent behavior and completely misunderstood it.
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Hey when ender killed that kid in the zero-g shower room deathmatch was that hosed up or what?
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Volcott posted:Hey when ender killed that kid in the zero-g shower room deathmatch was that hosed up or what? Nah, that's perfectly normal. Boys are savages.
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Facebook Aunt posted:As someone who used to be a 12 year old girl it is entirely possible for a girl that age to have a crush on a grown rear end man. It is also possible for a girl that age or even considerably younger to act 'flirty' because kids enjoy imitating adult behavior. In neither case is the girl desperately craving the D though. yea i agree, crushes are fine (except if youre a grownup and your dreamboat is actually a child) also smh if you wouldnt have a deathmatch in a zero g shower
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A Young Girle - "That older guy has car insurance and lower back issues. SWOON"
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chitoryu12 posted:Ben Affleck's son thought he was really Batman, so he bribed a Fedex delivery guy to pretend to be the Joker and fight him. Followed the link and was let down when I found out it was Ben Affleck who had set things up so his son would believe he was Batman, rather than his son bribing a man to fight a beleaguered and baffled Ben Affleck, as I had initially believed.
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Krankenstyle posted:good lord, and fantasy writers too. to be honest its weird and gross. And not just the men! Just ask about Anne McCaffery, dragon sex, and tent pegs.
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Krankenstyle posted:yea i agree, crushes are fine (except if youre a grownup and your dreamboat is actually a child) What if they are actually centuries old and only appear to be a child?
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