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nessin posted:Alternatively, you and several others took my statement as something other than what was said. [...] I said if you connect with him, you've got problems Let's be clear, you said people who failed to connect with the relationship (not the man) should turn themselves in for child abuse and neglect. But I'll accept that maybe I didn't respond with full consideration for the entire contextual framework of that comment. I'll try to be fair to you and I apologize for taking it the wrong way. If I were to distill my viewpoint on this it's that bad guys in stories are meant not to be unfathomable devils but instead expressions of conflict within the human heart. You can identify with even the literally inhuman monsters in stories. Whether the author knows it or not, they meant for you to. In fact when you see something of yourself it those boogeymen it makes them even more frightening. That recognition makes you more human, improves your understanding of the human condition, enables you to better connect with others including children and treat them humanely. For what it's worth, I can connect with Kratos. I have a much younger friend I'm trying to help get a foot in the door at my job and my boss has decided I should mentor them. I'm a different person at work and one I'm not sure I would like. I'm a sink or swim leader and people on my team either love or hate me. This is the way I know to be successful and get poo poo done and I don't know how to impart that to my friend and still be the kind of friend I want to be. I worry I will be distant and unapproachable, or wind up being a terrible mentor because I go in the other direction and don't teach her to do things herself. Playing this game, I've realized I don't need to worry. She's my friend and has known me forever and she will see through the sturm und drang. I can trust her to do that and in turn do what I need to do to be the best teacher I can be. So that's my experience with this game, I did have a human connection with Kratos. I'm not saying this is a Faulkner novel animated in 4k but I am saying it's good storytelling and well writ characters and that sets it light years apart from certain other AAA games (one might say it's a "far cry" from those games in terms of narrative structure).
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Friendly Fire posted:Your statement literally said, if you connect with this story, you are abusing your child. Even ignoring the obvious hyperbole of the CPS statement, ignoring you and I could have a different definition of connecting with a story, and ignoring that I'm comparing the actions of a video game character taken out into a modern stereotype, my statement said none of that. I even used the words "borderline abusive" if you take every word was it's literal definition with no context.
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Apr 23, 2018 03:14
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Alright cool, thank you! The longer you take the more Atreus complains and Kratos is all like SHUT UP I GOT THIS GIVE ME A SECOND until Atreus just stands in front of a set of three and is like TRY THIS WAY FIRST GOSH
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Apr 23, 2018 03:18
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Calaveron posted:The longer you take the more Atreus complains and Kratos is all like SHUT UP I GOT THIS GIVE ME A SECOND until Atreus just stands in front of a set of three and is like TRY THIS WAY FIRST GOSH Yeah he went silent so I was probably brushing up on the "come here moron" time limit. The sequence with the light soon after sure was a thing woo boy
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Apr 23, 2018 03:28
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nessin posted:Even ignoring the obvious hyperbole of the CPS statement, ignoring you and I could have a different definition of connecting with a story, and ignoring that I'm comparing the actions of a video game character taken out into a modern stereotype, my statement said none of that. I even used the words "borderline abusive" if you take every word was it's literal definition with no context. If you and I have a different definition of connecting with a character, then how the gently caress can you make a judgement on someone needing help based on them connecting with said character? The whole statement was ridiculous which is why people objected to your post.
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Apr 23, 2018 03:35
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Araganzar posted:I would rather say if you can't get behind the relationship at all either you're not a especially empathetic person or you haven't been paying attention. Kratos was raised in Sparta. He would have been taken from his family at age 7 for essentially boarding school where he would be encouraged forget his family and give his loyalty to his new leaders and comrades. At age 12 would have moved into barracks and started full time training as a warrior. He would have been under an older warrior who likely took the job to support pederasty. He would have been starved to encourage him to steal food and then beaten horribly for doing so. At 12 he would be basically on his own and considered to be an adult. If Kratos's relationship with his parents had not been severed by age 7, it would have been by age 12. Atreus is maybe 10 or 11. a good post
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Apr 23, 2018 03:36
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I like the implication the only way to connect to the relationship is to be an abusive dad. What about players who relate with BOY and not Kratos tho??
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Apr 23, 2018 03:39
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jizzy sillage posted:I had an awesome dad but I still understand the story because I'm not an autistic robot and have empathy. New thread title?
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Apr 23, 2018 03:41
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kratos gives like negative shits and i love it i'm guessing his personality has always been this way, but (i havent played other god of war games) im guessing he's more of a "less talk, more dismemberment" kinda guy
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Apr 23, 2018 03:43
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Thumbtacks posted:kratos gives like negative shits and i love it "Crafting" new items in the old games was basically tearing a bosses head off and using it. He's literally never given two fucks.
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Apr 23, 2018 03:50
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Also throwing bodies into gears to stop them instead of throwing an ice axe lol
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Apr 23, 2018 03:54
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given the fact that he's killed or hosed or both the entirety of the greek pantheon i love that he's constantly dealing with his idiot boy and the dwarf comedic duo, things he cant rip apart to satisfy
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Apr 23, 2018 03:54
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I mean the whole point is that you grew up with GoW and now you're a dad with a little kid who wants to watch you play games, and GoW is there to be all "yeah man we get it, here's a hilarious dwarf duo to keep your kid laughing inbetween the lighter death parades"
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Apr 23, 2018 03:59
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Over There posted:He's literally never given two fucks. Excuse me, he literally gave two fucks at one point in 2.
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Apr 23, 2018 04:05
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gently caress I want to replay the old games now, too. I know PS3 has ports of 1 and 2 in a collection, but is there a PS4 collection for all 3?
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Apr 23, 2018 04:09
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the dwarves are extremely well done, well acted, written and animated. Sindri is my husbando, a fraiser-dwarf neat freak but still brave enough to put his dukes up at Kratos "Well thats just a waste of a perfectly good apple," and "Tell me what? You didn't put that in your mouth did you?" and bluedwarf being like "He eatin' alright?" was very sweet I like the traveller enemies who i guess travelled from Lordran, the ones with the shields on their backs can get hosed though, I haven't figured out a way to efficiently deal with them yet just did the 100 enemy trial in muspelheim and gently caress me that was a goddamn chore, though not as bad as the invulnerable dark elf, did it in one go but it took about 25 minutes of constant fighting with very few health drops, probably made me a lot gud'er though also just got to the second bonus realm and I really dig how each of the realms is like a kinda alternate mode to play the game in. I think the only thing holding back the game is the tight camera which doesnt quite suit the combat but the whole game comes together really well, i've gone from straight up not liking it very much to thinking its a very good game
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Apr 23, 2018 04:12
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Fire can suck my dick.
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Apr 23, 2018 04:30
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God drat, I've had like, ten different things spoiled by me just by going to Youtube's main page. I don't know what the gently caress is up with everyone just dropping the names of characters and events into their video titles a hot three days after release, but they can all suck a collective butt.
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Apr 23, 2018 04:35
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Days like these I'm glad my YT front page is just overloaded with drag queen and movie stuff. probably still going to avoid it anyway to be safe.
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Apr 23, 2018 04:39
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This game is harder to put down than anything and I already feel sad about eventually beating it  the wait for a sequel is going to be brutal
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Apr 23, 2018 04:45
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They go so out of the way to depict the Aesir and Odin in particular as incredibly awful assholes. I wonder if that characterization will stick or if they used all of their nuance on Kratos. There's just a throwaway line after you fight Sigrun about how Odin basically destroyed Midgard by corrupting the Valkyries for no apparent reason. Curious to know if Mimir and Freya's take on the rest of the Norse pantheon is perspective or truth
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Apr 23, 2018 05:10
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The only major improvement id want for a sequel other than more weapons and a bit more involved skill specialisation would be loot scaling. Since gear level is your player level it makes going back and doing earlier sidequests pointless in terms of progression. Scaling loot plus some fixed legendaries would be nice. You still get exp which can buy skills but the diff between you and a 2 levels higher mob is so stark that your slight increase in arrow damage or whatnot won't help much.
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Apr 23, 2018 05:12
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As far as the ending goes I like this article of mad scribblings, if but because it presages how they'll get 100 sequels out of this story. Spoilers for the ending obviously. https://www.gamesradar.com/god-of-war-ending-what-does-it-mean-spoiler-warning/
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Apr 23, 2018 05:16
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i'm already mad that it's probably gonna be 3 years before we get the sequel to this i mean maybe 2 if they've already started and just use the exact same engine but the sheer amount of work they've done in telling the story (from a technical standpoint) just couldn't be done in less than 2 years. like they had to have spent a solid year on camera angles, pans etc alone
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Apr 23, 2018 05:22
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So bit of a question. How is the boss variety in the game? Spoilers for temple of light stuff The troll was pretty mediocre as a opening and I really don't like that fight. Then Baldur (I'm assuming) impressed me and was pretty fun. Then it's been all downhill with a troll recolor and literally just a normal enemy with more hp. It picks up later right? Kinda nervous that they made a big "wow!" first boss then left the rest of it for end game.
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Apr 23, 2018 05:28
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Just got to Aelfheim seems like there's a lot of axe throwing puzzles here that are not doable at the moment because I can't get to the right angle to throw the axe through the connector things. Is some skill going to unlock that helps me here or something?
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Apr 23, 2018 05:31
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I'm curious how many people are on Normal and how many play it on Hard. I realize Hard will probably be more manageable later on but I just got to Alfheim and feel like I should take the difficulty down to Normal for the first time as a reward for grinding my blood and bones through some truly hellish scenarios where I thought "I'm never going to win this fight." Playing on "GOW" difficulty going in blind sounds like a true mindfuck, idk how I'd be able to do it
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Apr 23, 2018 05:34
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The dead giant is maybe the coolest set piece I've ever seen in a game. I was expecting copy/paste of that dead 15 foot tall giant on the beach near the beginning  Boy was I wrong.
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DLC Inc posted:I'm curious how many people are on Normal and how many play it on Hard. I realize Hard will probably be more manageable later on but I just got to Alfheim and feel like I should take the difficulty down to Normal for the first time as a reward for grinding my blood and bones through some truly hellish scenarios where I thought "I'm never going to win this fight." I took the difficulty down to normal after the first fight because it felt like the enemies had way too much help and it was taking too long.
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esperterra posted:gently caress I want to replay the old games now, too. I know PS3 has ports of 1 and 2 in a collection, but is there a PS4 collection for all 3? No, 3 was the only one ported. If you have PS Now you can play all six games in your PS 4 though.
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DLC Inc posted:I'm curious how many people are on Normal and how many play it on Hard. I realize Hard will probably be more manageable later on but I just got to Alfheim and feel like I should take the difficulty down to Normal for the first time as a reward for grinding my blood and bones through some truly hellish scenarios where I thought "I'm never going to win this fight." I bumped it down way before you did. I figure there is almost a 100% chance I'll play again and I can gently caress with hard or GMGOW later. Normal seems good. It's not that hard but doesn't just give you the win either, and there is really tough side poo poo all over that would probably have me hating the game right now if I stuck with hard. Normal seems perfect for the average joe. I do wish the harder modes didn't involve making the enemies such damage sponges. veni veni veni fucked around with this message at 06:04 on Apr 23, 2018 |
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Le Saboteur posted:Just got to Aelfheim seems like there's a lot of axe throwing puzzles here that are not doable at the moment because I can't get to the right angle to throw the axe through the connector things. Is some skill going to unlock that helps me here or something? you can get the right angles, you have to think about it differently
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Apr 23, 2018 06:02
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fuckk, the part where you go home to dig up the blades of chaos is loving awesome. Athena appearing to talk poo poo was awesome.
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I love this game and all but man I am getting tired of games where you wander a dream forest or hallucination or whatever
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Just finished and whooo what a note to end this on fuckin cliffhangers and more unanswered questions than answered ones  my wife and i were talking about it and she called "kid is going to be loki and faye was a giant" (although the former was more on appearance, us doing loki-esque things and loki's conspicuous absence than anything) and nearly everything else is just shruggo until they drop DLC or a sequel
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katkillad2 posted:I made it to the top of the volcano last night and holy poo poo that Valkyrie is pushing my poo poo in. . I think the best I did was knock 2 bars off her health pool and I'm playing on normal. Is this a situation where I'm under leveled/under geared or do I need to get gud? No seriously, what the gently caress. I came back 2 levels and probably a third of the game later and I'm basically doing the same damage. I'm even trying out resists and seems like that's doing nothing. Probably the most frustrating thing is there seems to be some sort of dive AOE unblockable attack that's doing like 1/4th of my health. How am I supposed to counter that? Blocking/dodge rolling don't seem to work.
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If that's the move I'm thinking it is, just throw an axe at her while she's in the air doing the casting animation
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Can someone give me a clearer, spoiler free idea of the progression in this game? I think I played for easily 15+ hours this weekend and the game suggests there are seven realms, and although I did all the side stuff I could find which took up quite a bit of time, I've still only been to Alfheim and the main story keeps taking place near the main lake. Is there actually 7 realms in the game or is that a red herring? It just seems weird to me because Alfheim took a good 3 hours or something to do everything. I can't imagine I'm only 1/7th of the way through. I'm at the dead giant fwiw
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pissdude posted:you can get the right angles, you have to think about it differently Can you elaborate/spoil this for me? I know what area he is talking about and it appears the axe must be thrown from ledges I cant reach yet
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Are you hung up on the area with the light bridges? With vines covering a crystal?
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