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Jerusalem posted:As a result, I feel like this is the episode that people will have trouble immediately recalling when thinking of what episodes were in season 10. Which, again, makes it seem worse than it is. Because it's not bad, but it's also not really all that memorable even if it is just as good as the previous episode. Eaters of Light had some dips, but it was a good episode overall with a lot of great chemistry between characters, and the Missy ending (plus I loved the crow bits because I'm a sucker for that type of thing), and with the (as you mentioned) handling of sexuality with the Romans, I don't think this is going to end up a not-remembered-episode of S10 for a lot of people. Empress of Mars felt much more like "Oh yeah that episode of Who... when was that?" to me than Eaters.  Also, I haven't read the thread in like a year and it was very enjoyable catching up on your reviews. 
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Forktoss posted:EDIT: The new Target novelisations still have the old logo, don't they? Even the New Series ones, funnily enough. No - they've put out the covers for The Mutants and The Dominators with the new logo, so they'll be switching over eventually. Personally I'm more disappointed they've changed all the typefaces on the cover, whereas the text on the old covers (logo aside) were all evocative of the Target novelisations...
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Eaters of Light is a really good one-off episode with a tone that makes it feel a little different from the season that surrounds it, and I like it for that. It feels weirdly like a condensed episode of Classic Who, except with a Moffat era cold open that closes with a linking bookend (which makes sense, it was written by Rona Munro, and I'm sure Moffat touched it up a little). I don't think it's one of the most memorable episodes of Doctor Who, but it was an interesting experiment to bring in a Classic Who writer, go to a historical location not frequented often by the show, and have a sort of Gaimanesque fairy tale "And this is why the crows cry as they do" thing. It's the kind of genre-bending that Doctor Who could use.
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surc posted:Eaters of Light had some dips, but it was a good episode overall with a lot of great chemistry between characters, and the Missy ending (plus I loved the crow bits because I'm a sucker for that type of thing), and with the (as you mentioned) handling of sexuality with the Romans, I don't think this is going to end up a not-remembered-episode of S10 for a lot of people. Empress of Mars felt much more like "Oh yeah that episode of Who... when was that?" to me than Eaters. I feel like Eaters avoids that 'I forget when that even aired' more than Empress will, but not necessarily because it's a better episode; it's just got details that place it squarely in season 10, particularly about Bill and Missy (and to a lesser extent, Nardole). Empress, there's nothing in it that reads as 'this is a story with Bill in it', I could imagine it in any season without alteration.
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Oh, I agree it's not going to go down as some insanely remembered and highly-regarded episode, and I don't think it's necessarily better than Empress of Mars. I enjoyed them both as solid, but not amazing, episodes of Who. I just felt like it had enough memorable little moments on its own, and enough tie-ins to the rest of the season, that when looking back on S10 this will be an episode that pops into people's heads easily. All subjective of course, as it is kind of a middle-of-the-road, middle-of-the-season stand-alone episode (hyphens wooh), but I do feel like it's an episode that does a good job continuing to flesh out Bill's character and growth, and has a few other things that will stick in the brain. Like Cleretic said, it just feels like it's definitely a part of S10 in a way I don't think Empress does. surc fucked around with this message at 15:19 on Apr 20, 2018 |
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Box of Bunnies posted:Having the current logo on licenced releases has always been a thing It can be pretty trippy, too:  But really, the best tie-in logos are the "We Don't Give a poo poo" annuals:     Full  collection here.
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They call me Theta Ka Faraq Gatri They call me Doc But, Sarah-Jane That's not my name That's not my name That's not my name That's not my name
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Remind me because I'm too lazy to google and I feel like posting and I'm thinking about Doctor Who - When does the new series start airing?
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CommonShore posted:Remind me because I'm too lazy to google and I feel like posting and I'm thinking about Doctor Who - October, apparently. After The War posted:It can be pretty trippy, too: I love the art/stories in these where they're obviously written and drawn before that Doctor's stories have aired, so there's face reference, but no clue what they're wearing or what their character is like.
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Apr 20, 2018 16:39
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Do tv shows still get loads of books like that? When I visited my grandmother a while ago I went looking for something in her roofspace and found loads of 40-year old tv tie-in stuff, annuals, yearbooks and quiz books etc. that my dad and uncle had in the 70s (stuff like "The Giant Dad's Army Activity Book" and "The Catweazle Annual 1972"). (Also, it turns out either my grandmother or her late husband accumulated a massive collection of Hal Lindsey books and other authors on the same "God will destroy the world in 1999 when the Soviet Union invades Israel" theme. That wasn't a big surprise, though.)
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Wheat Loaf posted:Do tv shows still get loads of books like that? When I visited my grandmother a while ago I went looking for something in her roofspace and found loads of 40-year old tv tie-in stuff, annuals, yearbooks and quiz books etc. that my dad and uncle had in the 70s (stuff like "The Giant Dad's Army Activity Book" and "The Catweazle Annual 1972"). They still pump one out every year for Who, and a bunch of other properties do too. Look in WHSmiths just before Christmas and you’ll see them all. Also, you see a ton of books for Lego all the time across all their various properties (Ninjago, City, Lego Batman, etc), often with little sets or a minifig as extra incentive.
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Apr 20, 2018 17:29
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Trin Tragula posted:They call me Theta Let it be known that I appreciate this Ting Tings reference.
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Trin Tragula posted:They call me Theta Are you calling me Basil Are you calling me John Smith
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I'm doing a bit of spring cleaning and found a few Who books I might as well get rid of:
If these glowing reviews have enticed you and you would like some of these books, they're yours for just the postage fee! Send me an e-mail to forktoss (at) gmail . com telling me which books you'd like and where you'd like me to send them, and I'll figure out the shipping costs and get back to you. (Also maybe notify me in this thread so I'll know to check my mail.) Please note that I'll be shipping these from Finland and that might show in the postage fee, but I absolutely won't charge you anything for the books themselves. I'll leave these up for grabs for a week or two, I think, but after that I'll drop them at the library or something. Still, if anyone is interested, hit me up!
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Listening to Shadow of the Scourge and this exchange nearly made me drive off the highway laughing: Seven: Isn’t it obvious  Entire Cast: NO That and Ace’s “you’ve betrayed me you’ve betrayed me  ” still have me occasionally giggling like an idiot.
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I really wish I could have liked that story, unfortunately it captured the feel of the 7th Doctor's era just a bit too much - I could easily imagine this having been produced on television during the JNT era and I don't mean that as a compliment. That said, I loving loved when the Doctor's arrogant, condescending attitude/plan completely and spectacularly blows up in his face which causes him to spend the rest of the story getting back on even keel and slowly, inch by inch regaining the upper hand. That was VERY good.
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So, when people recommend Kinda as a standout of the 5th Doctor's era...is that meant to be some kind of cruel joke?
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docbeard posted:So, when people recommend Kinda as a standout of the 5th Doctor's era...is that meant to be some kind of cruel joke? Kinda
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docbeard posted:So, when people recommend Kinda as a standout of the 5th Doctor's era...is that meant to be some kind of cruel joke? You'll probably like Caves of Androzani more if you weren't a fan of Kinda. Personally I loved Kinda and didn't get all the fuss about Caves.
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There's a lot of stories where my opinion is "I like it a lot, but I'd totally understand if someone else couldn't get past the [THING]", and for some reason a lot of them are early-80s ones. Kinda's a great example with the Buddhist weirdness and Yet Another Crap Studio Jungle and that sodding rubber snake.cargohills posted:You'll probably like Caves of Androzani more if you weren't a fan of Kinda. Personally I loved Kinda and didn't get all the fuss about Caves. You're not alive 
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Trin Tragula posted:You're not alive It's too late, Trin, you can't mend people.  You CAN'T mend PEOPLE! 
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I absolutely love Caves, it's true. I don't know, the big rubber snake didn't bother me (if that sort of thing bothered me I could hardly watch pre-revival Doctor Who or frankly a lot of post-revival Doctor Who) but the thing barely has a plot, none of the guest characters are the least bit compelling, and most of the main cast are either literally sidelined or have nothing much to do. Exception: the dream sequence where the Mara is loving with Tegan to convince her to let it possess her is fantasticly creepy. Anyway, my journey through the Fifth Doctor years continues. The Visitation is a solid alien-loving-around-in-a-historical-setting story, and Five continues to be pricklier than I remember him being (and I think I enjoy him that way). Not really anything that deserves to be on anyone's best-of list, but solid enough. Also, seeing the sonic screwdriver for the last time before the revival. Also the first half of Black Orchid was delightful, even if it was clearly just an excuse for Peter Davison to play some cricket.
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Jerusalem posted:I really wish I could have liked that story, unfortunately it captured the feel of the 7th Doctor's era just a bit too much - I could easily imagine this having been produced on television during the JNT era and I don't mean that as a compliment. Shockingly I disagree, it’s really good! It is pretty much Seven Gets  though and it’s just the right mix of sarcastic levity and absolute horror for me. Companion dynamic is great too. Ace is such a lovable clod 
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docbeard posted:Also the first half of Black Orchid was delightful, even if it was clearly just an excuse for Peter Davison to play some cricket. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2-5LAe_x_0&t=127s No camera trickery required.
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Listened to some more of the 10th Doctor Chronicles today; Sylvia Noble is still an absolutely delight of a character and I'm glad they brought her back
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docbeard posted:Exception: the dream sequence where the Mara is loving with Tegan to convince her to let it possess her is fantasticly creepy. I absolutely love that scene, as well as the rough equivalent of it in Enlightenment when the Eternal is peeking at her from the other side of the viewscreen  I also find the seduction/devil/temptation undertones (or is it overtones?) in the scenes of the possessed Tegan sitting and laughing at the local quite an eye-opener given the time the story was made.
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Kinda I just want you to know this went neither unnoticed nor unappreciated.
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There's some manner of 90 minute "director's cut" version of genesis of the Daleks being shown theatrically in June. Fathom already has tickets up.
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jivjov posted:There's some manner of 90 minute "director's cut" version of genesis of the Daleks being shown theatrically in June. Fathom already has tickets up. How in the hell would that even work I mean What is that even going to cut? Are they going to touch up effects? Restore the picture? Or I'm very confused
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Burkion posted:How in the hell would that even work It's billed as a "never before seen 90 minute Director's Cut" so that's, what, over an hour trimmed out somehow?
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just shameful if they don’t want to show Harry being attacked by a giant clam on the big screen
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Well, the Blu-ray of Season 12 is coming very soon, so I’d imagine it will look good.
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Just finished up Holy Terror, which was also my first exposure to Frobisher. Even knowing (sort of) what I was getting into, I definitely wasn’t ready for either his voice or the voice of the Big Bad.
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=fXo47CIUuFg Well, first there was the live recording of the song done months ago, and people have been uploading the tracks when they leaked a while back, but now we've got "The Shepherd's Boy" within easy listening distance if need be Huzzah
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Burkion posted:How in the hell would that even work Finally, the 70s-80s PBS edits get their due!
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PantsOptional posted:Just finished up Holy Terror, which was also my first exposure to Frobisher. Even knowing (sort of) what I was getting into, I definitely wasn’t ready for either his voice or the voice of the Big Bad. Frobisher sounds exactly how I expected him to tbh.
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Awesome thread, Uses 13's logo in the first eight Doctors credit sequences: https://twitter.com/HjRobins/status/990193025505742849
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Davros1 posted:Awesome thread, Uses 13's logo in the first eight Doctors credit sequences: I wasn't sure about it at first because it looks out of place for the first 3 but yeah Tom's era and afterward it totally works On a related note: https://twitter.com/RadioFreeSkaro/status/989920485000400896 apparently this "director's cut" is only 90 minutes, is this a new thing or has it been around for a while?
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Tim Burns Effect posted:I wasn't sure about it at first because it looks out of place for the first 3 but yeah Tom's era and afterward it totally works Apparently in either late 70s/early 80s there was a repeat of Genesis on TV that was edited to 90 minutes, it had never been seen since that broadcast, and wasn't on any of the home video releases (until the upcoming Blu-Ray set). My best guess is that's what this release is going to be.
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