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ok I did this interview that I thought I did pretty good but it's been 2 weeks so now I sent an email asking for an update poo poo, it was the one job that seemed legit good
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I’m gonna say some stupid poo poo in an interview soon. hopefully my interviewers are dumber than me
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Apr 24, 2018 14:19
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AWWNAW posted:I’m gonna say some stupid poo poo in an interview soon. hopefully my interviewers are dumber than me usually a manager is present which skews the odds heavily in your favor
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Apr 24, 2018 14:37
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so my follow-up interview is with a member of the architecture team and a member of the management team. the technical i just made sure i had heard of SOLID, but i am not sure what to expect or how to prep for this one
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Apr 24, 2018 20:00
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Help I don't know the difference between object and class
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Apr 25, 2018 00:21
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an object oriented object is an instance of a class it can also be used to mean just about anything in memory but usually that’s what’s meant.
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Apr 25, 2018 00:32
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At what point is it okay to reapply to a big name company like MS? I done an interview last year April but got passed over at the final round for another candidate. Only trouble is the office here doesn't have a lot of openings for my specialities, mostly AR stuff.
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Apr 25, 2018 02:45
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qhat posted:At what point is it okay to reapply to a big name company like MS? I done an interview last year April but got passed over at the final round for another candidate. Only trouble is the office here doesn't have a lot of openings for my specialities, mostly AR stuff. Dehumanize yourself and face to MS.
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Apr 25, 2018 02:50
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Schadenboner posted:Dehumanize yourself and face to MS. I wish there were more big names that pay well here in Vancouver. We've got Amazon, MS, EA, and well that's mostly it I think. Everywhere else just seems to want front end JavaScript of some variety.
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Apr 25, 2018 02:52
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qhat posted:At what point is it okay to reapply to a big name company like MS? I done an interview last year April but got passed over at the final round for another candidate. Only trouble is the office here doesn't have a lot of openings for my specialities, mostly AR stuff. Apply to anything that seems like a good fit. They'll give zero fucks about what some other team decided.
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Apr 25, 2018 02:52
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qhat posted:At what point is it okay to reapply to a big name company like MS? I done an interview last year April but got passed over at the final round for another candidate. Only trouble is the office here doesn't have a lot of openings for my specialities, mostly AR stuff. literally like an hour after a rejection email/call or even befor eone
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Apr 25, 2018 02:53
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qhat posted:I wish there were more big names that pay well here in Vancouver. We've got Amazon, MS, EA, and well that's mostly it I think. Everywhere else just seems to want front end JavaScript of some variety. Bitch, I’m in goddamn Milwaukee. the closest thing we have to computer poo poo is like Johnson Controls or GE Medical. And it’s all deep-SAP Country. Better JavaScript than ABAP.  Count your goddamn blessings.
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Apr 25, 2018 02:56
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Schadenboner posted:Bitch, I’m in goddamn Milwaukee. the closest thing we have to computer poo poo is like Johnson Controls or GE Medical. I mean we've also got Northwestern Mutual and uhh... *squints at scribbles on palm* ...Zywave?
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Apr 25, 2018 03:07
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qhat posted:At what point is it okay to reapply to a big name company like MS? I done an interview last year April but got passed over at the final round for another candidate. Only trouble is the office here doesn't have a lot of openings for my specialities, mostly AR stuff. It's been a long time since I interviewed with them, but I'm pretty sure you can reapply right away. I remember I was turned down for the position I had interviewed for but they had wanted me to keep applying for other teams. In retrospect if I was to move out to the Seattle area, that was the time to do it :-/ I had an internal interview for a PO role today and I thought it went well. It was my first non-technical interview and seemed weird because of that. We'll see in a week or so. What's funny is I now get to interview candidates for my current team later this week.
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Apr 25, 2018 03:21
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ThePeavstenator posted:I mean we've also got Northwestern Mutual and uhh... *squints at scribbles on palm* ...Zywave? Isn’t there somewhere that makes zip software too?
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Apr 25, 2018 03:24
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ShadowHawk posted:You should be automating your continuous build system to scream at them for you. There should be a version of those code obfuscation competitions but you write unit tested code and the hidden secret is that the tests fail non-deterministically. JS is disallowed because they haven't invented deterministic tests that interact with the DOM yet.
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Apr 25, 2018 03:39
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Schadenboner posted:Bitch, I’m in goddamn Milwaukee. the closest thing we have to computer poo poo is like Johnson Controls or GE Medical. Let's do a Milwaukee startup. I have an idea but I'm way too lazy to build a whole platform from the ground up. Tom Barrett is a classic dem so I'm sure we could grift a bunch of money from the city to headquarter there.
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Apr 25, 2018 03:41
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Schadenboner posted:Isn’t there somewhere that makes zip software too? For real there's a decent amount of small-to-medium financial firms around, idk why (it's probably waukesha county)
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Apr 25, 2018 03:44
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Chicago and twin cities are within Bay Area commuting distances of Milwaukee
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Apr 25, 2018 04:28
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Is there a tech scene in Chicago? It seems like a cool town but idk what the opportunities are like for a city of its size.
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Apr 25, 2018 04:36
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qhat posted:I wish there were more big names that pay well here in Vancouver. We've got Amazon, MS, EA, and well that's mostly it I think. Everywhere else just seems to want front end JavaScript of some variety. maybe telus? i have no idea how well they pay or what office does what (seems like health is eastern canada and out here it’s ???) but they’re fairly big.
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Apr 25, 2018 04:49
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argggh, i got tricked into saying a number first!
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Apr 25, 2018 17:52
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HoboMan posted:argggh, i got tricked into saying a number first! you'll get better at this with experience. was your number at least an informed one?
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Apr 25, 2018 17:59
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Saying a number first isn't always a bad thing. Alot of people say omg don't say it and while generally that's probably true for most people, saying a number can be used to anchor a conversation in the ball park you want to negotiate in. So if they were planning to offer 100 and you say 110, you're presenting a strong position, a sense of self worth and value and now your playing around 10 grand above what their initial cap was. This can change for established large companies and start ups but there's def something to say about anchoring high if you know it's high or if you have a sense of what their offer maybe be bc it can afford you more money and room to negotiate. If they come at with some budget bullshit and oh this cap, this tier whatever well than you get drop my favorite corporate phrase "Dimensions of Compensation" OH you can't move on the number? Give me PTO, work from home days, buy me companion tickets, buy me a weekend in a hotel, I need a gadget / cell phone allowance etc.
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Apr 25, 2018 18:05
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Waroduce posted:OH you can't move on the number? Give me PTO, work from home days, buy me companion tickets, buy me a weekend in a hotel, I need a gadget / cell phone allowance etc. PTO is good WFH may or may not be compatible with your psychology (it isn't compatible with mine, I can't be productive) so may or may not be worth something to you. That being said, it's definitely nice if you have kids. weekend in a hotel... what? gadget/cell phone allowance... what? stop adding more useless poo poo to landfills. cell phone plus plan is like maybe $100/mo tops, that's not an order of magnitude that has any business going near a comp negotiation
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Apr 25, 2018 18:26
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The job i currently do requires travel to client sites. I have negotiated to have the company pick up the tab on flying gf out and paying two extra nights (fri/sat) if I'm some place nice I want to stay. I do it roughly once a quarter. This aspect may not be applicable to this thread since this a forum of computer touchers.
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Apr 25, 2018 18:45
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Sapozhnik posted:weekend in a hotel... what? perks for people with higher percentage travel jobs. stay the weekend in a hotel, fly family out to you
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Apr 25, 2018 18:53
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pfft i just tell the recruiter a number and refuse to negotiate. sometim'es i've cut off a recruiter who insists on pushing the number down and then gotten an e-mail requesting RTR at the number I stated
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Apr 25, 2018 19:00
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this only with third party recruiters, i'd never do that with an in-house contact
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Apr 25, 2018 19:02
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hobbesmaster posted:perks for people with higher percentage travel jobs. stay the weekend in a hotel, fly family out to you this would be an absolute ace perk for my job if i were allowed to do this once a year and now i'm seriously considering asking for it
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Apr 25, 2018 19:08
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i think they took my 110 as an hourly rate so there is that
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Apr 25, 2018 19:21
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HoboMan posted:i think they took my 110 as an hourly rate so there is that haha, another interview thread success story.
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Apr 25, 2018 19:25
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1 phone screen down, 4 more to go overall i think this first one went ok and at least the tech i work with matches the tech they use so ???
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Apr 25, 2018 20:41
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getting flown out for an interview in a few weeks. good sign for them wanting me, hopefully i don’t see any red flags and they offer enough figgies.
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Apr 25, 2018 22:31
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The Leck posted:getting flown out for an interview in a few weeks. good sign for them wanting me, hopefully i don’t see any red flags and they offer enough figgies. 1. SUCK 2. THEM 3. OFF
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Apr 25, 2018 22:41
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Arcsech posted:update: it was a total fuckin disaster update update: did the redo, did a million times better turns out getting enough sleep and having some practice in the online environment makes a pretty big difference. pro tip: if you have an interview through karat, they use https://coderpad.io/ - do some hackerrank problems in their demo environment ahead of time i made the mistake of practicing in intellij and it hosed me up the first time, i didnt realize how much I relied on intellij
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Apr 25, 2018 23:21
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I don't mind saying a number first, I've got a pretty good handle on what I can get and what I should walk away from. The worst thing is going through an entire interview process and be given an offer that isn't even close to what it would take for you to switch jobs, so I'm happy to screen those clowns out early if possible.
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Apr 26, 2018 02:19
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Apparently my mindset of always anticipating poo poo going pear shaped and picking things apart to test them, and then always testing the whole regression, is a very marketable skill. And my constant triage in life is good for looking at what can blow up in a big system. Curiously I think that I might have put bugs in the ear of the interview to use himself even if I'm not hired lol. https://boyter.org/2016/07/chaos-testing-engineering/ Also "Chaos Engineering" immediately struck me as what I was born for. How do I become a code monkey who makes monkeys?
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Space Whale posted:Apparently my mindset of always anticipating poo poo going pear shaped and picking things apart to test them, and then always testing the whole regression, is a very marketable skill. And my constant triage in life is good for looking at what can blow up in a big system. go work for a company with too much money because those are practically the only ones where chaos monkey bullshit actually flies
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uncurable mlady posted:go work for a company with too much money because those are practically the only ones where chaos monkey bullshit actually flies why is it BS tho? Also what about if I don't want to be a stupid monkey
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