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steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Baloogan posted:

the funny thing is the real war is the war about "understanding the syrian war"
the propgaganda war (like very propaganda thing) involves way more people than the actual conflict.

Yeah, the twitter pissing match is way bigger than the war that displaced like ten million people.

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Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:


when i was in nicaragua in 2012 i met a drunk american at a bar who claimed to be one of ortegas doctor, and that he was giving him all kinds of insanely expensive experimental anti-aging and life extension stuff.

Isn’t he allergic to sunlight or something, and his crazy wife sort of runs things now?

Yossarian-22
Oct 26, 2014

steinrokkan posted:

Yeah, the twitter pissing match is way bigger than the war that displaced like ten million people.

more people hear about syria from some part of the media and have random thoughts about it than live in syria. propaganda is more than just reaching out to a few extremely online brokebrains

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
propaganda is important in that it might result in your side getting material support from an external source. with this material and personnel you can you know, win the actual war.

dead gay comedy forum slapfights have a infinitesimal effect on moving the needle of public opinion, and public opinion doesn't have a whole lot to do with the bipartisan foreign policy consensus

that said, I am extremely important and my posts must be respected

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Yossarian-22 posted:

more people hear about syria from some part of the media and have random thoughts about it than live in syria. propaganda is more than just reaching out to a few extremely online brokebrains

No salient points about the Syrian war were decided through social media, and the number of people who read about the war is completely irrelevant, as million people reading about the battle of Aleppo equals zero refugees and victims of the battle itself.

Yossarian-22
Oct 26, 2014

steinrokkan posted:

No salient points about the Syrian war were decided through social media, and the number of people who read about the war is completely irrelevant, as million people reading about the battle of Aleppo equals zero refugees and victims of the battle itself.

pr and propaganda is still a big loving deal, and could have been the difference in convincing the american public not to back intervention in 2013. yeah, congress decided it, but the u.s. state's utter lack of domestic and international credibility after iraq is not some poo poo to be underestimated, especially as it sparked the biggest global outbreak of protest in history (more than the population of iraq itself). congress was not going to back a war that clearly would have been hugely unpopular from the outset

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Better keep your wars straight

thatfatkid
Feb 20, 2011

by Azathoth
social media is irrelevant

*ignores the rebels carefully crafted social media image via bana alabed/white helmets/etc*

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
And they are now poised on seizing the presidential palace no wait they had their spine broken

Yossarian-22
Oct 26, 2014

paul_soccer10 posted:

Better keep your wars straight

do iraq and syria have any groups with spillover let alone even share a border? :thunk:

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
The Iraq protests did not stop the war and the syria obama red line demonstrations delayed a performative cruise missile strike by about a year

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Half the protesters were like Mr Obama sir you must ask permission first Sir

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
Saw some ML account tweet this:

https://twitter.com/WaelAlRussi/status/988537052676403200
Kinda catchy but speaking of red-brown stuff, this is a case of it because I remember seeing this video first on neo-Nazi forums, and the account that made it has a lot of other retrowave music videos about various far-right figures like Richard Spencer and so on. There's one which is a retrowave version of the Cops theme but with footage of ICE agents rounding people up.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
yeah this smacks of the lovely retrowave propaganda the alt right shits out

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

Saw some ML account tweet this:

https://twitter.com/WaelAlRussi/status/988537052676403200
Kinda catchy but speaking of red-brown stuff, this is a case of it because I remember seeing this video first on neo-Nazi forums, and the account that made it has a lot of other retrowave music videos about various far-right figures like Richard Spencer and so on. There's one which is a retrowave version of the Cops theme but with footage of ICE agents rounding people up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYFjRH-vxGg

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

paul_soccer10 posted:

The Iraq protests did not stop the war and the syria obama red line demonstrations delayed a performative cruise missile strike by about a year

war protests don't really work unless they break the rules, which the majority of people are not willing to do for largely justifiable reasons

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
the only realistic solution outside of a socialist revolution is electing an actual dove that will use their power is CiC to stop the ongoing wars, Bernie is the left most politician with any chance of being elected in the US and is only moderately left of the neolib/neocon foreign policy consensus

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Bernie isn't going to stop the drone wars, but at least he won't start any new ones.

Surely.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Bernie isn't going to stop the drone wars, but at least he won't start any new ones.

Surely.

probably






maybe





I hope

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://twitter.com/StateDept/status/21002430475

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag1o3koTLWM

byob historian
Nov 5, 2008

I'm an animal abusing piece of shit! I deliberately poisoned my dog to death and think it's funny! I'm an irredeemable sack of human shit!

paul_soccer10 posted:

Better keep your wars bi

byob historian
Nov 5, 2008

I'm an animal abusing piece of shit! I deliberately poisoned my dog to death and think it's funny! I'm an irredeemable sack of human shit!

Ace of Baes posted:

probably






maybe





I hope

war on job creators :getin:

HorrificExistence
Jun 25, 2017

by Athanatos

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

Saw some ML account tweet this:

https://twitter.com/WaelAlRussi/status/988537052676403200
Kinda catchy but speaking of red-brown stuff, this is a case of it because I remember seeing this video first on neo-Nazi forums, and the account that made it has a lot of other retrowave music videos about various far-right figures like Richard Spencer and so on. There's one which is a retrowave version of the Cops theme but with footage of ICE agents rounding people up.

Its like you guys just realizing that assad supporters are nazis.

Shame all those tanks and hardware gets used to boil iranian conscripts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0nvprmbExQ

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

gently caress off.

HorrificExistence
Jun 25, 2017

by Athanatos
Your fake idealism murdered 400,000 syrians.

NATO hatred is more important than a working class majority that has literally been ethnically clensed by people you cheerleaded

HorrificExistence
Jun 25, 2017

by Athanatos
When the Iranian colonial supression forces enter Rojava whose side will you be on?

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

I'll support whichever side makes you stop posting.

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
The people ethnic cleansing are isis and the 'moderate' rebels. Assad couldn't cleanse the sunnis even if he wanted to - his brutality is a function of attempting to assert control. Its not the same thing.

THS
Sep 15, 2017

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I'll support whichever side makes you stop posting.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

HorrificExistence posted:

When the Iranian colonial supression forces enter Rojava whose side will you be on?



Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I'll support whichever side makes you stop posting.

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I'll support whichever side makes you stop posting.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I'll support whichever side makes you stop posting.

HorrificExistence
Jun 25, 2017

by Athanatos

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I'll support whichever side makes you stop posting.

only the establishment of an islamic republic will do that

THS
Sep 15, 2017

HorrificExistence posted:

only the establishment of an islamic republic will do that

there already is one in Iran, b!tch

HorrificExistence
Jun 25, 2017

by Athanatos

Yandat posted:

there already is one in Iran, b!tch

colonists dont count

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

HorrificExistence posted:

colonists dont count
Should have explained that when you first made that comment. Because right now,you should be shutting up, as you said.

HorrificExistence
Jun 25, 2017

by Athanatos
shia snake worship doesnt count either

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

THS
Sep 15, 2017

HorrificExistence posted:

shia snake worship doesnt count either

there it is

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

HorrificExistence posted:

shia snake worship doesnt count either

Yeah, the hidden Imam will make you pay for that statement on the day of judgement.

Crowsbeak has issued a correction as of 04:15 on Apr 26, 2018

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Yossarian-22
Oct 26, 2014

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I'll support whichever side makes you stop posting.

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