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spurs in review LaMarcus Aldridge: after an underwhelming season last year that led to a frustrated LaMarcus pondering a trade this previous offseason, the spurs were able to get this guy back into the fold and he showed up in a big way. i really mean in a big way. the guy led his team in scoring more than just about anyone in the nba. he put in the work every night and didn't say boo. the guy has seriously endeared himself to spurs fans this year. this is the year LaMarcus truly became a spur and everyone is happy to have him. for a quiet guy, he also seemed to have done a good job leading this team. you could see people gravitate to him and rally around him. LaMarcus is cool as hell and what i consider to be a quintessential nba pro. glad he made the all-star team, let's hope he catches an all-nba team too. he deserves it this year. oh yeah, also, when his shot is falling, its one of the prettiest things in the nba. Kyle Anderson: Slo-mo had an interesting year. he's a great defender, but goes for steals a little too much. he's an excellent facilitator, but his lack of offensive game led to teams just sagging off him and playing the lanes. he's definitely nba quality, but the team needs to figure out a better way to integrate him, and kyle really needs to work on his shooting this offseason. first he was afraid to even shoot corner threes, then he started hitting a few, then he started missing them all, then he stopped taking them. he's gotta find something that works better Danny Green: there's no way to sugar-coat it: danny green had a bad year. it was cool to see him much more able in putting the ball on the floor, but let's be real: danny needs to shoot and make threes and he was loving awful at that this season. just awful. his defense was ok, but who gives a poo poo if you aren't a threat on offense. green saw a lot more of the bench this year. let's hope he can find his shot or the spurs can get people in who draw away enough attention to give green even more space, not that it helped when he was open this season. it'll be interesting to see how he handles his upcoming...option? i think. Patty Mills: Patty was put in a very tough situation this season. he is not a starting point guard. he is an energy guy that comes in off the bench and hits timely shots. he definitely grew in his position this year. he drove and finished better toward the end of the season and in the playoffs really seemed to shoot better. he's definitely a chucker, but that is his role off the bench and the spurs were absolutely desperate for offense, particularly from the perimeter.i think the spurs got their 12million from him this year and he's great to have around. once he can return to leading the bench mob i think his contract will be fine. also, his lack of size is really, really showing, but once again his role is "spark off the bench" so his size shouldn't be too much of a factor in that role Dejounte Murray: i have mixed feelings about dejounte. he is the very definition of potential, but now we're in the nba and its much more about "what the gently caress can you do for me right now." dj only really shines on defense and in transition where he can run. but his offensive game is criminally under-developed and to be a modern nba point guard you gotta be able to score. its only his second year, so there's plenty of room to grow. but its also his second year and we haven't seen much growth. let's hope the spurs lock him up with the shooting coach Chip this offseason. Manu Ginobili: Manu is God. Manu is Life. Seriously though, Manu is a literal basketball god descended from the heavens. No, but seriously, the guy is an actual living legend and its really such a joy to watch him play. he really is just an absolute competitor and absolute unit. its not always sunshine and rainbows though. his 3 didn't seem as deadly this year and for just about every amazing manu play there is a bad turnover or other sloppy play. but spurs fans know the drill: Live by the Manu, Die by the Manu. its just awesome that he's still out there, still balling out of his mind, still winning games, and it looks like he'll be doing it all again next year. couldn't be happier for the guy. Rudy Gay: Rudy is still getting comfortable with his body and it shows. he tries and fails to do a lot of things that must have come much easier to him before the achilles tear. but he's really starting to come back. really starting to look like his old self. i hope he opts in or resigns and can continue his growth with us. i also just really like Rudy. the guy is charismatic as all hell and when his game starts to click its really cool. he's a lot like lma to me, one of those quintessential nba pros. he also seems to get along well with lma. i hope his future is bright and those pearly whites stay in san antonio. he's one of those guys i really root for Tony Parker: Tony had a bad year in just about every way. he didn't play much and didn't play very well when he did. some people say he came back from injury too early, but i don't really know about that. he's pretty much guaranteed a contract because he's a spurs legend and wants to play. someone floated the BAE or something that can give him 3.3 mil. i haven't given up on tony completely. it just wasn't his year. he'll hit the gym this offseason and see if he's still got it. regardless of what people think about him, he's a major part of the big 3 and deserves a shot with the franchise. Pau Gasol: 16mil really was too much for the guy. to be fair, he has his moments and is actually an underrated rim protector. but against most teams they just pull him out on a switch and roast him. his offensive game is also just awful. he's never going to get the calls he got 10 years ago so he needs to figure out how to muscle or finesse those shots in. it was bad that he was pretty much the spurs only other big. he can play high-low well and is really a great passer but the spurs need more out of him and he's got to give it. hopefully they can find a way to integrate him better and let's hope he spend time in the offseason at least working on his 3. best case scenario is if he spends the offseason convincing his brother Marc that the spurs are cool and good and he should come play here. Davis Bertans: davis is great for what he does. he has a very surprising amount of athleticism and intensity. the guy can ball. he needs to work on his defense, but its a drat shame it took spurs so long to realize that he can actually play out at the perimeter alright and is great for chasing around catch-and-shooters. lets hope we can retain him nice and cheap, but we'll see. hopefully the natural bias against a giant ginger who's already torn his ACL twice lets the spurs retain him and play him more. i really feel like bertans is one of the better role players the spurs have Joffrey Lauvergne: Joff started out the season looking really awesome. then he dislocated his finger and was never the same. borderline unplayable, really. he got absolutely no love from the refs so people just clowned on him and he doesn't have the size to make up for it. will he be around next year? dunno. maybe he's better than what we saw. maybe there's some potential. but probably not, cuz when he played real minutes this season he blew Bryn Forbes: let's put an end to the forbes experiment, shall we? the guy is just not nba caliber. he can't create his own shot and he's too short. he also just doesn't make enough 3s and for some reason loves to drive the lane and take weird floating 2s. he gets targeted on defense and teams go on runs when he's in. i feel bad because it looks to me like pop decided on forbes over white (not unusual, white's a rook and the g-league was good for him) and white just seems to be a much better player. i think the spurs just couldn't let the shooting potential go untested, but now we've tested it thoroughly and its just not there. its too bad too because forbes is player a lot of people want to like. he's hungry and has a cool story. he's also pouty and not good enough. sorry Bryn, you had your shot. Brandon Paul: BP3 was supposed to be a defensive specialist who could also shoot 3s ok. but i think the absolute lack of offense and already solid defense left no room for him on the court. he hardly played this season. the spurs typically take a while to work a player in to the system, so maybe he'll be more ready next year. the guy plays with great energy and tries his rear end off, but he was also a bit too reckless and tried a bit too hard. only manu gets to manu Derrick White: now this guy is promising. he and hilliard just dominated the g-league and white showed he can shoot the 3, get to the line, and score in other ways. all things the spurs need. he has good size so the spurs can make him a good defender. i want to see a full year of this guy and i'm looking forward to next year. seriously, the future might be really bright for derrick white Two Way Players Hilliard and Costello: don't know too much about them, but the spurs need big men, so hopefully costello pans out, even is he does seem a bit short (i was gonna say undersized, but he's a big boy). hilliard is a good player too, but i don't know if he's a spur. maybe his game spoke loud enough to convince pop, but i don't quite think so. spurs already have a ton of borderline guards, not sure hilliard is gonna move the needle. surely he'll be at training camp though. Kawhi Leonard: MIA it was a tough year. a year that either strengthens or severs your connection to the franchise. i'm proud they made the playoffs and took a game off GSW. its too bad they lost game 3 because that could have at least made things interesting, but the talent and offensive gap was just too much. i'm thankful for lma in a big way. he really carved out a place in every spurs fan's heart. let's enjoy the rest of these exciting playoffs and get ready for next year. things are only gonna get more interesting for the spurs between now and october. i have a sort of 2014 feeling from next year's spurs. they're pissed they didn't perform at the highest level and next year they're going to come out swinging
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Lockback posted:Kawhi is under contract next year and can't opt out until 19-20. I find it hard to believe he'd sit out next year and still have a career. There's language in the CBA that allows teams to freeze contracts if the player is medically cleared so it really has a lot of mess potential. E: I really appreciate that, RaySmuckles, it's cool. Rick fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Apr 25, 2018 |
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there's still time on the clock, friend
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 04:42 |
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The one time Metapod loses faith and it gets thrown right back at him
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Cool Buff Man posted:The one time Metapod loses faith and it gets thrown right back at him When you saw only one set of footprints in the sand, it was then that I carried you - Russell Westbrook to Metapod, and also the rest of the OKC thunder
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Cool Buff Man posted:The one time Metapod loses faith and it gets thrown right back at him THIS IS WHY I POST THE WAY I POST THIS HAS BEEN 10 YEARS OF PURE INSANITY chunkles posted:When you saw only one set of footprints in the sand, it was then that I carried you - Russell Westbrook to Metapod, and also the rest of the OKC thunder My savior
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chunkles posted:When you saw only one set of footprints in the sand, it was then that I carried you - Russell Westbrook to Metapod, and also the rest of the OKC thunder Hahaha I thought they were cooked. loving Westbrook
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Hello.
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 05:10 |
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scuz posted:Hello. Sup? What rod did you bring? I brought A Rod.
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scuz posted:Hello. So this is the part where we can talk about how Thibs is totally getting fired right? Because holy poo poo has there been a lot of smoke the last few days for there not to be something burning. At least my avatar is safe!
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Welcome Timberwolves fans.
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IcePhoenix posted:So this is the part where we can talk about how Thibs is totally getting fired right? Because holy poo poo has there been a lot of smoke the last few days for there not to be something burning. He has a lot of guaranteed money still, and also the Timberwolves did exactly as their pre-season expectations were, so I am not sure why the sudden feeling like this was a disappointing year.
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Lockback posted:He has a lot of guaranteed money still, and also the Timberwolves did exactly as their pre-season expectations were, so I am not sure why the sudden feeling like this was a disappointing year. This is all from actual quotes by Butler's agent and an interview from Taylor on the radio a couple days ago. The Taylor interview stuff was a little speculative but he was extremely noncommittal about Thibs when asked about the season and was critical on their playstyle and how the roster was built/used. The Butler stuff isn't really that worrying, though I wonder if he wouldn't leave if Thibs is let go. IcePhoenix fucked around with this message at 14:04 on Apr 26, 2018 |
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Strawberry Panda posted:Sup? What rod did you bring? IcePhoenix posted:So this is the part where we can talk about how Thibs is totally getting fired right? Because holy poo poo has there been a lot of smoke the last few days for there not to be something burning. As much as I'd love for Becky Hammon to swing in and actually develop some players, Thibs isn't going anywhere. Papa Glenn isn't about to eat 3 years of a 5-year contract. The Wolfs made it to the playoffs, we had two (TWO!) players make it to the all-star game, and the Summer of '17 was pretty darn good. We bagged us Jimmy God Damned Buckets, finally ripped off the Rubio "will they/won't they" band-aid, got an amazing glue-guy in Taj, and, I gotta be honest, Teague is a good point guard. Wiggins's defensive efforts improved by leaps and bounds near the end of the season (it couldn't have gotten much worse, really), buuuuut... Teague's Pacers highlights had 100% convinced me that he was going to be a good point guard and make me not feel so bad about losing our pretty Ricky. However, Thibs's system is not the Pacers's system and the season started out way herky-jerky. I dunno what kind of offensive system Thibs uses that isn't just an attempt to get the ball to a guard in an isolation mismatch and that's kinda boring to watch. KAT's defense is still atrocious and I'm seriously concerned about whether he got yipped during that Rockets series The problem with Butler is that he can't really be divorced from Thibs, but maybe with his knee being a ticking time bomb, maybe that's not the worst thing ever if they're both gone. Crawford has gotta go, as cool of a dude as he is, I just dunno whether he contributed enough to make up for his ridiculous shot selection. We don't need that kind of volume-shooting role player, we need people who are difficult to score against. Keep Rose in a cryo-chamber until playoffs and thaw him out, but he doesn't need to play during the season very much. Give those minutes back to TYUS JONES, GODDAMMIT. I'll echo Papa Glenn's frustrations. I wanted to see more bench players playing more time that isn't garbage time. MGH had proven himself to be a tough defender, Belly is exactly the role player we need him to be, and why not throw Amile and Patton in there every now and then? They need to develop and I just don't see that happening under Thibs. Thibs doesn't play his own bench that he put together and I'm no head coach but how the heck are you gonna develop players if they never play Rick posted:Welcome Timberwolves fans. Lockback posted:He has a lot of guaranteed money still, and also the Timberwolves did exactly as their pre-season expectations were, so I am not sure why the sudden feeling like this was a disappointing year.
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They had the 4th best offense in the league, there is nothing they really need to do on that end. The defense needs a lot of work, but time is the best salve for that. Some bench reshuffling is in order as well. Oh, and Tyus was hurt in the playoffs. During the season Rose and Tyus shared a backcourt.
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Lockback posted:They had the 4th best offense in the league, there is nothing they really need to do on that end. The defense needs a lot of work, but time is the best salve for that. Some bench reshuffling is in order as well.
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This is just "sources" as far as I know which is why I didn't mention it but apparently Taylor saw how well Rubio and Shabazz were playing for Utah and Milwaukee and was a bit nonplussed, especially for Rubio because he had to be talked into giving the blessing to trade him. it's not the end of the world if Thibs doesn't get canned but he does seriously need to adapt his coaching style or the Wolves aren't going to do anything in the playoffs but be that "team you don't want to play because they could steal a series off you."
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 14:47 |
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Minnesota should definitely fire Thibs because Rubio scored two more points per game at around the same efficiency and Shabazz looked good in 11 games with Milwaukee
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morestuff posted:Minnesota should definitely fire Thibs because Rubio scored two more points per game at around the same efficiency and Shabazz looked good in 11 games with Milwaukee People think we should re-sign Rose because of like five good games so I think you're on the right track!
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IcePhoenix posted:This is just "sources" as far as I know which is why I didn't mention it but apparently Taylor saw how well Rubio and Shabazz were playing for Utah and Milwaukee and was a bit nonplussed, especially for Rubio because he had to be talked into giving the blessing to trade him. morestuff posted:Minnesota should definitely fire Thibs because Rubio scored two more points per game at around the same efficiency and Shabazz looked good in 11 games with Milwaukee IcePhoenix posted:People think we should re-sign Rose because of like five good games so I think you're on the right track!
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scuz posted:We're better off with Teague I don't think this is necessarily true.
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IcePhoenix posted:I don't think this is necessarily true.
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scuz posted:As long as Thibs is the coach, I think it is IMO Thibs's iso-heavy offensive schemes don't work very well with Rubio who can't space the floor as well as Teague. Sorry to go Lockback Lonzo on this but I think his advantage in literally every other aspect of the game make up for that, though. He was shockingly not bad from 3 this year, as well.
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IcePhoenix posted:Sorry to go Lockback Lonzo on this but I think his advantage in literally every other aspect of the game make up for that, though. He was shockingly not bad from 3 this year, as well. You keep trying to fix an offense that was way better than anything they ever had before, though. Rubio wouldn't have fixed their defensive problems, so in worst-case scenario its a wash.
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Lockback posted:You keep trying to fix an offense that was way better than anything they ever had before, though. Rubio wouldn't have fixed their defensive problems, so in worst-case scenario its a wash. Just because an offense is good doesn't mean you shouldn't strive for it to be better. I'm making more money this year than I ever have before, does that mean I should stop trying to improve myself so I can get a better and higher paying job down the line? Also Rubio is a better defender than Teague so he still makes them better on that end to help hide those problems.
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IcePhoenix posted:Just because an offense is good doesn't mean you shouldn't strive for it to be better. I'm making more money this year than I ever have before, does that mean I should stop trying to improve myself so I can get a better and higher paying job down the line?
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I don't think you need to ignore problems to fix others. This isn't an either or situation.
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 16:29 |
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Fair point. Also, THIS Buckets interview from the day before the wolfs were eliminated makes me very ! https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/jimmy-butler-back-in-a-bulls-uniform-someday-not-as-far-fetched-as-it-sounds/ quote:MINNEAPOLIS — Everything hurts on Jimmy Butler these days.
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 16:49 |
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According the there Chicago sun times, any player who cares about winning over everything else will look to join the Chicago Bulls.
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 16:54 |
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Homerism at its finest, but Jimmy's implication that he's the only one trying his hardest isn't filling me with much confidence.
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scuz posted:Homerism at its finest, but Jimmy's implication that he's the only one trying his hardest isn't filling me with much confidence. That is sorta Jimmy's schtick. He's always been all "no one does as much as me to win". He's been like that when he was playing garbage time only. I dunno what he's going to do, but people used these exact quotes to say him and Thibs hated each other and whelp.
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Lockback posted:That is sorta Jimmy's schtick. He's always been all "no one does as much as me to win". He's been like that when he was playing garbage time only. I dunno what he's going to do, but people used these exact quotes to say him and Thibs hated each other and whelp. Either way, he's no fan of Hoiberg, Gar, OR Pax, so he's not gonna bounce over there until they're gone.
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2 outta 3 so far. Neil Olshey should be fired
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 17:29 |
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Imagine your team being handicapped long term by Evan Turner. ET being the major obstacle for improving your roster. Awful.
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He won't join a 25 win team and I don't see Chicago becoming a contender that fast. I honestly think this is just his motivational technique. Like I said, I don't know what he'll do, but none of that is surprising or different from how he always is.
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Been going back and forth with a buddy of mine about the wolfs season and realized that this would have been the third season with Flip back at the helm. Would have had KG tutoring KAT, Wiggins, and Lavine that whole time and boy, that team woulda been REALLY fun to root for. I really don't like Glenn Taylor anymore.
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congrats to derrick rose for forestalling his inevitable move to china for at least one year
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# ? Apr 27, 2018 04:28 |
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Tom Thibodeau, I hate your loving guts!!!
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We yearn for the days of a 30 win team featuring starting PG Luke Ridnour.
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