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coconono posted:NJPW hasn't done a women's division mostly out of tradition and that's whatever. I could see them starting to consider it more now that they're lengthening those tours. The challenge would be how to present it. I don't see them doing it, they actually have a fairly loaded roster and while they have modernized I don't see them wanting to talent raid any of the existing Joshi or mixed promotions to get the talent needed for a division.
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Gaz-L posted:Am I crazy or did they get Kevin to do the show from the 27th in post? I could swear it wasn't listed as having English announcing on the schedule, but I just logged into New Japan World and it's in the 'NEW' carousel. One of the Korakuen shows from last week went up late in English too. Maybe he's dubbing some of them from home? sigmachiev posted:Main event didn't really do it for me, and even before the abrupt finish I was thinking it was a little below what my expectations were. I'm not sure what they'll do with the HW title but I assume ZSJ gets an IC shot soon.
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Chinston Wurchill posted:One of the Korakuen shows from last week went up late in English too. Maybe he's dubbing some of them from home? He was supposed to be there live but had a family emergency, he's now doing studio commentary for the shows he missed. Props to Kevin Kelly, he seems to genuinely care.
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SatoshiMiwa posted:I don't see them doing it, they actually have a fairly loaded roster and while they have modernized I don't see them wanting to talent raid any of the existing Joshi or mixed promotions to get the talent needed for a division. That's fair. NJPW is into longterm planning so the end goal would be to establish a women's dojo and start producing talent. Its doable but a lot of structure and planning required.
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Cody vs Kenny for the IWGP title would probably be a good Main Event for All In feel like that's gonna be cody vs. magnus for the nwa title. projecting out to All In is tough because you have the g1 between that and the cow palace. having cody win would be a good way to keep the title out of the g1 though. maybe with hangman interference to mirror aj's win over okada
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coconono posted:That's fair. NJPW is into longterm planning so the end goal would be to establish a women's dojo and start producing talent. Its doable but a lot of structure and planning required. Surely it would make more sense just to chuck some of that Bushiroad money at Meiko Satomura to buy Sendai Girls or something. Her dojo is already producing really good wrestlers. Some people on Twitter seem really upset about the main event of Hinokuni. Yeah, it's kind of disappointing that a Naito/Suzuki match wasn't as good as a Jay White/David Finlay match especially after a great build but was it that awful? I thought it was perfectly serviceable.
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I thought it was a pretty good match. But most of it was Suzuki having a kneelock on Naito and Naito trying to get out of it. I can see that being disappointing if you really wanted them to go after each other.
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Baron Corbyn posted:Some people on Twitter seem really upset about the main event of Hinokuni. Yeah, it's kind of disappointing that a Naito/Suzuki match wasn't as good as a Jay White/David Finlay match especially after a great build but was it that awful? I thought it was perfectly serviceable. I wouldn't say I'm upset, seemed more like an off night is all. A Naito/Suzuki title match main event should be beyond perfectly serviceable but it's not like it was some disaster or anything.
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Incessant Excess posted:I thought Juice/Goto was much more engaging, that match ruled. That was probably the best match of the tour so far. The CHAOS vs NJPW guys matches have been far better than the Suzuki-gun vs LIJ matches. Also they've been calling the unaffiliated guys 'hontai' on this tour. Is that new? I thought they were Sekigun
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Naito/Suzuki was good but it wasn't great and really didn't match any of the other HM singles on the tour and people were expecting something really good. Anyway today's show was good and watchable but the real best card is the May 4th one with the JR and Heavy singles matches.
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Worth mentioning that this week's free match is the first match between Tanahashi and Okada from 2012. I didn't know that Okada had a purple streak through his hair before, so now I know where Ospreay got his purple hair from.
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sigmachiev posted:Main event didn't really do it for me, and even before the abrupt finish I was thinking it was a little below what my expectations were. Agreed, thoroughly underwhelming. It felt like 90% of the match was Suzuki putting the leg hold on Naito.
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Hi everyone, just a reminder Cow Palace Tix go on sale tomorrow 10 am PT https://www.ticketmaster.com/new/venue/229523
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Baron Corbyn posted:Looks like Naito leaving the title in the ring is setting up his new gimmick of completely ignoring the fact that he's intercontinental champion. Good, just the way it should be. Especially if it means Suzuki stalking him, trying to force Naito to take the belt (though admittedly that might a bit more up DDT's alley rather than New Japan).
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Germansimp posted:Good, just the way it should be. Especially if it means Suzuki stalking him, trying to force Naito to take the belt (though admittedly that might a bit more up DDT's alley rather than New Japan). It might not be in-character for Suzuki but I could definitely see Hiromu just sort of toting the belt around because nobody else is.
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potential blasphemy: naito has been amazing since he joined lij, but of njpw's top guys, he is the least interesting to me in the ring. i enjoyed the suzuki match, but yeah. about what i expected.
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cams posted:potential blasphemy: naito has been amazing since he joined lij, but of njpw's top guys, he is the least interesting to me in the ring. i enjoyed the suzuki match, but yeah. about what i expected. I find him more interesting than Suzuki but he's lower than Tanahashi, Okada and Omega for me.
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Naito is my favorite NJPW guy but yeah, even I'll agree Omega and Okada are probably better in-ring guys. Naito just has a certain thing that gets me more then those guys. Like Sazuki said, he's cool with the punks and teens.
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Draxion posted:It might not be in-character for Suzuki but I could definitely see Hiromu just sort of toting the belt around because nobody else is. Hiromu is suddenly announced to be in the G1 because he was carrying the IC title and Gedo just assumed he was a HW now.
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Naito was a lot better during his initial return as the new LIJ dude. But Suzuki is right, now it's for babies and punk kids.
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cams posted:potential blasphemy: naito has been amazing since he joined lij, but of njpw's top guys, he is the least interesting to me in the ring. i enjoyed the suzuki match, but yeah. about what i expected. I don't disagree. I was one of maybe three people on this board who flipped out in a good way when Okada beat him at the Dome. He's cool but would say he's my sixth favorite guy in the heavyweight division behind Okada, Omega, Ibushi, Suzuki and Ishii, in that order. E: Seventh. Forgot Tana. I'm a bad fan. sigmachiev fucked around with this message at 04:01 on May 1, 2018 |
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I enjoyed the entire LIJ vs Suzuki Gun part of the card. The Naito vs Suzuki match wasn't amazing but this was the first non WK card that I've stayed up for all the way through and it was nice to see Naito win that belt that he hates again
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The pacing of the Naito vs. Sazuki match was odd. 90% of the match was real good but was all of Sazuki on offense. Then it ended with a quick burst from Naito, Destino, 123. Naito needed more offense to really make the pin feel right. In the match it just felt sudden. The blood trickling from Suzuki's nose was a great image.
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Gumball Gumption posted:The pacing of the Naito vs. Sazuki match was odd. 90% of the match was real good but was all of Sazuki on offense. Then it ended with a quick burst from Naito, Destino, 123. Naito needed more offense to really make the pin feel right. In the match it just felt sudden. When I saw people talking about someone being hurt, I thought it was Naitos knee because the sequence after Suzuki had that half crab in the ropes, he was selling so long and awkwardly. But I guess it was just paced weird. Oh well, one not incredible main event isn't gonna kill New Japan. It's just a testament to how high the standard has been raised lately
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Gumball Gumption posted:Naito does at least get to be the leader of the best stable. He gets to hang out with Hiromu! He's not the leader of the actual Ingobernables.
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MassRafTer posted:He's not the leader of the actual Ingobernables. i think andrade is still a member
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cams posted:potential blasphemy: naito has been amazing since he joined lij, but of njpw's top guys, he is the least interesting to me in the ring. i enjoyed the suzuki match, but yeah. about what i expected. Naito's my favourite but I'd definitely put Okada, Omega, Tanahashi, Ibushi, Ishii and the Minoru Suzuki we're getting in 2018 way above him in terms of how much I enjoy their ring work. This was definitely the least I've enjoyed a singles match involving either man this year so far which is surprising considering Naito has a YOSHI-HASHI match under his belt.
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I think that's more true for Suzuki than for Naito actually, I at least haven't seen him have matches comparable to Naito/Okada from WK12 or Naito/Omega from G1 finals last year.
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Incessant Excess posted:I think that's more true for Suzuki than for Naito actually, I at least haven't seen him have matches comparable to Naito/Okada from WK12 or Naito/Omega from G1 finals last year. Suzuki is in contention for wrestler of the year by my reckoning. His matches with Tanahashi, Goto, Matt Riddle, Moustache Mountain, Makabe and Okada/Ishii have all been great.
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