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hello friends this is also true for me as i am in the same group:Asiina posted:I won't be around for deadline, it's D&D night starting about 3 hours before. but i am here to gently caress poo poo up
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SalTheBard posted:I PERSONALLY would never try to make someone angry as it's a game. As far as I know you are town, I am also town, what I wanted was for you to explain why you didn't like a post I made. You gave me loving bullshit in return, had Asiina not asked you, you would've never done it and it potentially could've gotten me killed. But you called it scummy, and now you are saying I am town, as far as you know. Can you explain this? Am I scum or am I not?
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May 2, 2018 23:21
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SalTheBard posted:I PERSONALLY would never try to make someone angry as it's a game. As far as I know you are town, I am also town, what I wanted was for you to explain why you didn't like a post I made. You gave me loving bullshit in return, had Asiina not asked you, you would've never done it and it potentially could've gotten me killed. I am also not trying to get somebody angry, but I'm certainly not willing to cede you control a of a narrative when I am trying to dig.
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May 2, 2018 23:22
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I'm still catching up but another thought about podima (who i don't agree with the case on) is that he would also spell particular attention to cop fuckery in an eccogame because of a previous experience that still traumatizes me to this day so i kinda understand pointing out the miller thing with emphasis
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May 2, 2018 23:24
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CCKeane posted:But you called it scummy, and now you are saying I am town, as far as you know. Can you explain this? Am I scum or am I not? are you just purposefully being loving obtuse or what? AS FAR AS I loving KNOW YOU ARE TOWN. WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS SCUMMY. I'm honestly done with this loving conversation.
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May 2, 2018 23:26
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SalTheBard posted:are you just purposefully being loving obtuse or what? This does not resolve this. You are saying I am town, while simultaneously saying I am behaving scummy. Am I town behaving poorly, or am I scum? Step back if you need to, I will be busy for the next few hours.
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May 2, 2018 23:29
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CCKeane posted:This does not resolve this. You are saying I am town, while simultaneously saying I am behaving scummy. Am I town behaving poorly, or am I scum? Step back if you need to, I will be busy for the next few hours. The great thing about this game is I don't know what your loving alignment is. Let me break my post down word by word by word so maybe you will loving understand: SalTheBard posted:I PERSONALLY would never try to make someone angry as it's a game. I PERSONALLY feel like manipulating peoples emotions in Mafia is a lovely loving thing to do. I think that doing it is a scummy thing to do (not that that makes you scum, you could be rear end in a top hat town, who knows) quote:As far as I know you are town, I am also town I am town, you could be town, we could both be scum slap fighting! Thats the great thing! I operate from the assumption that people are town and want to engage in good faith conversations quote:what I wanted was for you to explain why you didn't like a post I made. You gave me loving bullshit in return, had Asiina not asked you, you would've never done it and it potentially could've gotten me killed. The heart of the issue and why my hands are shaking in fury right now is when I tried to engage you in good faith you didn't. Had Asiina not put pressure on you I don't think you would've ever engaged back. Leaving a post like yours out there with no ability for me to refute it could lead to a town miskill tonight. I'm seriously beginning to think you are just loving with me at this point because there is no way that post could be read any other way than the way I intended it.
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May 2, 2018 23:36
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The Ninth Layer posted:I find these comments suspect for several reasons. I agree with this case entirely. Specifically, the motive behind hearing a defense and then not engaging with it at all. I've grappled a lot with how much to take into account the defense of someone who I think is scum but it mega depends on context and I think responding to "this is what i genuinely think in mafia in general" with "i'm not claiming this is some air tight slam dunk" reads a lot to me as a scum thinking "well, i already went out on my ledge for today targeting a townie, i can't waste the social capital to do it again so i'm just gonna stick with it." this is the place where my vote would be but i want to fully catch up first. as a final thought here, atomic soda, yami and I have an unconfirmed masonry. I really don't give much of a poo poo about unconfirmed masonries (especially in an eccogame!!!!) because they gently caress with your head and idk i dont want to share secrets and chat much with people whose alignment might not be town. too much wifom.
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May 2, 2018 23:39
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Max posted:I don’t like this reaction to me mentioning your name all of once. 
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May 2, 2018 23:46
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lol I guess I'm not allowed to defend myself (which is exactly what I was doing)
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May 2, 2018 23:49
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here is a robot's interpretation of the votecount, let's see if it is accurate! The Current Day 1 Votecount   SalTheBard (3): Monathin, Max, -Monathin, CCKeane, Monathin Moatillata (2): IllegallySober, Anomalous Amalgam, -IllegallySober, -Anomalous Amalgam, Anomalous Amalgam, Podima Podima (2): Moatillata, Max, Atomic Soda, -Max Atomic Soda (2): Asiina, The Ninth Layer bowmore (1): Max, -Max, Yami Fenrir BottleKnight (0): Max, -Max Asiina (0): Podima, Atomic Soda, Max, -Podima, -Max, -Atomic Soda The Ninth Layer (0): Podima, -Podima Anomalous Amalgam (0): Yami Fenrir, The Ninth Layer, -The Ninth Layer, Max, -Yami Fenrir, -Max Monathin (0): SalTheBard, -SalTheBard Max (0): Asiina, Podima, -Podima, -Asiina, SalTheBard, -SalTheBard CCKeane (0): The Ninth Layer, -The Ninth Layer Not Voting (5): BottleKnight, bowmore, IcePhoenix, IllegallySober, SalTheBard With 15 players alive, it takes 8 votes to be executed.  The current deadline is May 02nd, 2018 at 11 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 4 hours, 10 minutes from this post.
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May 2, 2018 23:50
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SalTheBard posted:lol I guess I'm not allowed to defend myself (which is exactly what I was doing) give me the shovel
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May 2, 2018 23:52
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BottleKnight posted:give me the shovel I don't care if I get voted out at this point. It's to towns detriment to do it.
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May 2, 2018 23:53
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SalTheBard posted:The great thing about this game is I don't know what your loving alignment is. Let me break my post down word by word by word so maybe you will loving understand: I will point out this and then stop engaging at all: -Assuming everybody is town is a poor way to conduct scum hunting. -I have no obligation to engage with somebody I think I scum. I have no obligation to engage with anybody. If that gets you very upset, that is unfortunate, but your anger about that is anger about something I am entirely entitled to do or not do, both within social standards and within the game of mafia. Now, I still do think Sal is scum, but I also don't think he's faking being mad about this, so I'm going to let my points rest for now.
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May 2, 2018 23:54
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Podima posted:I don't agree with this, AS' tone felt conversational and willing to discuss the vote, not as hardline as you're framing it to be here. i feel like i need a deeper literary analysis here, like honestly, to know what parts of as's post(s?) you're actually talking about. like, you're just talking about tone and not content? scum fake tone. but the lack of engagement with you and then basically asserting to asiina that the case was clear of why you were scummy when i disagree, it was never clear why you were scum from her case (which, hey, townies can make bad cases, it's the follow-up that has activated my scumsensor9000)
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May 3, 2018 00:01
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My current feeling on Sal is he had at least distinguished himself from the likes of bowmore. I question his methods and think his technique could use some work, but my feeling for now is that his heart's in the right place and that perhaps others are beginning to take advantage of his poor handling of pressure.
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May 3, 2018 00:02
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When I flip town I want you all to remember who started this: Max and Keane
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May 3, 2018 00:03
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Max posted:Lazy. Plenty has happened and is still happening. but there has been 100+ posts since this so i'm sure something will turn up
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May 3, 2018 00:06
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##vote uncleftish cola the sal thing is too much for me
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May 3, 2018 00:08
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 Mod Ruling:I will NOT extend the deadline; y'all are here and posting and can get a hanging in if you put your minds to it. However, by necessity (tonight is a bobnight) the deadline will be floating. As such, try to get in a vote sometime tonight before I return home and check the thread. https://www.samafia.net/wiki/Floating_deadline Good luck.
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May 3, 2018 00:10
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ecco did you put in the part about it being called a schroedinger's deadline it's not a thing it'll never be a thing
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May 3, 2018 00:14
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you're not my supervisor!!!
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not sure why max is going after me apart from being a ~lurker~ i'm not confident in calling him scum for it though
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May 3, 2018 00:18
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SalTheBard posted:When I flip town I want you all to remember who started this:
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May 3, 2018 00:19
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Sal's posting is veeerrryyyy similiar to Asiinas when she gets called out as scum (and is scum), it's pretty funny, I think they (Sal) might be scum
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May 3, 2018 00:20
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Yami Fenrir posted:I still don't like AA's posting style, especially compared to Pequod, but Bow's post history is actively frustrating for me to look at after coming from another game that essentially died to lurkers.
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May 3, 2018 00:22
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my eyes glaze over as soon as I start reading a The Ninth Layer post, why does this happen
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May 3, 2018 00:23
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##vote Sal the defensiveness is triggering me gut call for sure
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May 3, 2018 00:24
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I may as well announce ahead of time that I do not see my vote moving from Atomic Soda today.
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May 3, 2018 00:24
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I'm a Cop
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May 3, 2018 00:24
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Sip lynch me our whatever because I probably won't make it through the night!
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May 3, 2018 00:27
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SalTheBard posted:I'm a Cop 
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May 3, 2018 00:31
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SalTheBard posted:I'm a Cop Welp.
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May 3, 2018 00:35
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##unvote
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May 3, 2018 00:39
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you kind of have no choice but to lynch him now, so stupid, why claim when you have hours to deadline and barely any votes on you
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May 3, 2018 00:39
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You have every choice not to lynch me.
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May 3, 2018 00:41
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How excited were you to be the cop Sal? Is that why you're so mad rn? I think we should vote pod bc he omgused me and he should know better
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May 3, 2018 00:44
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bowmore posted:you kind of have no choice but to lynch him now, so stupid, why claim when you have hours to deadline and barely any votes on you "Do you think he is lying?" I cannot think of any other reason bowmore would advance a position so transparently against the interests of the guild.
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Moatillata posted:How excited were you to be the cop Sal? I was pretty loving pumped
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