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DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness
oh my god why is this a gif I want to murder someone

edit: I clicked through looking for the data and not only could not find it but:

quote:

The poll has a credibility interval of 1 percentage point, meaning that results may vary by about 1 percentage point in either direction.
I have never heard of a CI referred to as a "credibility interval" before

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Dienes
Nov 4, 2009

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College Slice

HerStuddMuffin posted:

Lol I guess that’s what happens when people try to register to vote in your party’s primaries and they get told to gently caress off because they missed deadlines or didn't register under the party they want to vote in because they can't be bothered to pay attention.

ShimaTetsuo
Sep 9, 2001

Maximus Quietus

DACK FAYDEN posted:

edit: I clicked through looking for the data and not only could not find it but:

I have never heard of a CI referred to as a "credibility interval" before

Credibility intervals are a sort of Bayesian analog to frequentist confidence intervals (but with respect to the posterior distribution, not the sampling distribution).

But I agree that their description is useless because it doesn't quantify how likely it is to be within 1%.

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

Okay guys we need a chart that shows that US gun violence is not so bad. So what what we do is we just gradually increase the smallest bracket until the US is green like Canada and Europe.




Aw poo poo now the whole middle east and Argentina is green too. gently caress it lets run with it.

Katt has a new favorite as of 22:07 on May 1, 2018

The Cheshire Cat
Jun 10, 2008

Fun Shoe
I was going to say "holy poo poo what is happening in Greenland" but then I remembered that so few people live there that one double homicide case is enough to push it into the second bracket on its own.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


ShimaTetsuo posted:

Credibility intervals are a sort of Bayesian analog to frequentist confidence intervals (but with respect to the posterior distribution, not the sampling distribution).

More pertinently, credible intervals actually are what everyone wants confidence intervals to be.

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




Katt posted:

Okay guys we need a chart that shows that US gun violence is not so bad. So what what we do is we just gradually increase the smallest bracket until the US is green like Canada and Europe.




Aw poo poo now the whole middle east and Argentina is green too. gently caress it lets run with it.

If you want to know just how egregious this is the intentional homicide rate for a few of these countries is

USA = 4.88

Putting it in the same bracket as the

UK = 0.92 (The UK isn't even particularly good here)

The US has as many murders as the whole of Europe added together, so they seem like they should all be green no murder zones. The nearest countries to the US in terms of rate are such luminaries as Rwanda, Somalia,Kazakhstan, North Korea and impressively managed to double the murder rate in Libya.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

A nice simple awful graph from the cursed images thread.

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense



Aramoro posted:

North Korea

How would we know the murder rate in North Korea? Wouldn’t they just say it’s 0?

Tree Goat
May 24, 2009

argania spinosa

Powered Descent posted:

A nice simple awful graph from the cursed images thread.

I think it's okay. It's supposed to illustrate the great famine, and show that, at a time of growth for the continent, Ireland saw a huge decline from which it recovered only recently. The dual axes don't bother me because I don't think anybody would think that Ireland is bigger than Europe, and it makes the trends easier to compare.

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

Tree Goat posted:

I think it's okay. It's supposed to illustrate the great famine, and show that, at a time of growth for the continent, Ireland saw a huge decline from which it recovered only recently. The dual axes don't bother me because I don't think anybody would think that Ireland is bigger than Europe, and it makes the trends easier to compare.

Could the same be done with just percentages?

The great famine was genocide on the Irish by the UK government and the chart does a lot to illustrate that a famine that struck all of Europe at the time was needlessly amplified in Ireland.

Mikl
Nov 8, 2009

Vote shit sandwich or the shit sandwich gets it!

Powered Descent posted:

A nice simple awful graph from the cursed images thread.

I'm the ten-year datapoint interval in Ireland versus the sixty-year datapoint interval for Europe.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Mikl posted:

I'm the ten-year datapoint interval in Ireland versus the sixty-year datapoint interval for Europe.

Does that mislead?

Mikl
Nov 8, 2009

Vote shit sandwich or the shit sandwich gets it!

Subjunctive posted:

Does that mislead?

It might, there's a lot more smoothing of the data with sixty-year intervals than with ten-year intervals; Europe's population would always be going up as a trend, but you might miss small variations that correlate more closely to Ireland. I don't think that's what's happening here, but my general point is that when you make a graph comparing two things you should use the same intervals for both of them.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
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For the two people who haven't heard it before:

How many potatoes does it take to kill an Irishman?

None

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Mikl posted:

It might, there's a lot more smoothing of the data with sixty-year intervals than with ten-year intervals; Europe's population would always be going up as a trend, but you might miss small variations that correlate more closely to Ireland. I don't think that's what's happening here, but my general point is that when you make a graph comparing two things you should use the same intervals for both of them.

So the graph would be better if they coarsened the Ireland data points to 60-year intervals?

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

It's actually kind of crazy looking at the population of Europe at that low sampling interval; the two most violent conflicts in European history barely register.

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Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Tortured By Flan
Yeah it's really deceptive because you're looking at close to or more than 100 million deaths within 30 years but it just looks like a slight decrease in population increase. The fact that the Haber process caused most of those deaths and offset them by increasing agriculture yield many times over is really ironic.

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
Dare I even ask what theta-1 and theta-2 are supposed to measure

HerStuddMuffin
Aug 10, 2014

YOSPOS
I’m assuming the author took a perfectly valid chart out of a topology paper or whatever and relabeled parts of it. They could just have replaced “war, peace, etc...” with “me, my ex, memes” and posted it on imgur.

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin
Jul 19, 2000


Oven Wrangler
I guess we're in the timeline where Ben Goertzel quantum leaps into Jordan Peterson and Ziggy says he has to solve the war in Syria before he can leave.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

PittTheElder posted:

It's actually kind of crazy looking at the population of Europe at that low sampling interval; the two most violent conflicts in European history barely register.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

Label your everything please.

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!
Now I want to make a chart with an x axis of something like 1970-2010 but have it be something like "tens of days after August 22, 1168"

E: 2^x milliseconds after the big bang

klafbang
Nov 18, 2009
Clapping Larry

Outrail posted:

Label your everything please.

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Telltolin
Apr 4, 2004



this counts, right? also, when did "introvert" turn into another word for "very smart intelligent genius >180 iq" instead of just implying social awkwardness

sweeperbravo
May 18, 2012

AUNT GWEN'S COLD SHAPE (!)

Telltolin posted:



this counts, right? also, when did "introvert" turn into another word for "very smart intelligent genius >180 iq" instead of just implying social awkwardness

around 2010 i believe

Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Tortured By Flan

Telltolin posted:



this counts, right? also, when did "introvert" turn into another word for "very smart intelligent genius >180 iq" instead of just implying social awkwardness

lol what are you not INTJ or something? Get outta here

Hemingway To Go!
Nov 10, 2008

im stupider then dog shit, i dont give a shit, and i dont give a fuck, and i will never shut the fuck up, and i'll always Respect my enemys.
- ernest hemingway

The Cheshire Cat
Jun 10, 2008

Fun Shoe

PittTheElder posted:

It's actually kind of crazy looking at the population of Europe at that low sampling interval; the two most violent conflicts in European history barely register.

Yeah, population growth in general exploded in the 19th and 20th centuries due to medical advances leading to a much lower rate of infant mortality, so even though millions of people died in two world wars, when zoomed out and looking at the average it STILL works out to a net increase relative to previous centuries.

walrusman
Aug 4, 2006


It's a little bit :goonsay: but it's not really wrong.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Telltolin posted:



this counts, right? also, when did "introvert" turn into another word for "very smart intelligent genius >180 iq" instead of just implying social awkwardness

yeah people who brag about being introverts are definitely victims of an online myers-briggstest

SENSUAL DAD KISS posted:

lol what are you not INTJ or something? Get outta here

i think i was INTJ too, but its literally 20 years since

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Only super hero movies were never good

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

ikanreed posted:

Only super hero movies were never good

blade trinity was a fantastic movie

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

Outrail posted:

Label your everything please.

Population of Cambodia over 40 years, plotted so that one of the most vicious and evil genocides of the 20th century just looks like a silly little nothing.

hooah
Feb 6, 2006
WTF?

Where is this reversing of "few and far between" coming from? This is the second time I've seen this misconception in maybe a week. "Far and few between" doesn't even make much sense.

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?
It's comes from people trying to use ready made idioms without thinking what they actually mean. See also "I could care less" instead of "I couldn't care less". The whole point is that you care so little it's impossible to care less!

Also while introvert has become real dumb, the worst is "ambivert", to describe those special people that are sometimes introverts and sometimes extroverts.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Fathis Munk posted:

It's comes from people trying to use ready made idioms without thinking what they actually mean. See also "I could care less" instead of "I couldn't care less". The whole point is that you care so little it's impossible to care less!

Also while introvert has become real dumb, the worst is "ambivert", to describe those special people that are sometimes introverts and sometimes extroverts.

I'm personally ambidextrous about it.

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HerStuddMuffin
Aug 10, 2014

YOSPOS
My favorite one is people misusing osmosis when they meant to abuse symbiosis instead. I can’t help picturing them exchanging solvent with their best friend through a semi-permeable membrane to balance the molarity of their solutes. :pervert:

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