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Skip My Posts posted:maia outstruck him with one eye in the fifth i thought? yeah, it turns out breakdancing and yelling 'playboy' in portugese is really tiring.
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Anderson was really good but the division was also really bad. He was also on the juice.
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May 3, 2018 06:22
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Anderson made sure there was never another Abu Dhabi card and for that we should be eternally grateful
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May 3, 2018 06:49
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Anderson was really good but the division was also really bad. These are very good attributes for being champion along with taking penis medication see also Jones, Jon
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May 3, 2018 07:18
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I'm a casual MMA fan and I have to ask: has it always been a thing that someone will be incredibly dominant, and then become a near non-entity after a single significant loss? Rousey (special case I guess, she went especially insane after taking her first L), Joanna Gatekeeper, Aldo, I sort of want to include Anderson but he did get his shin turned into two pieces and also was revealed to have been cheating for perhaps a decade.
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May 3, 2018 12:54
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Wamsutta posted:I'm a casual MMA fan and I have to ask: has it always been a thing that someone will be incredibly dominant, and then become a near non-entity after a single significant loss? Rousey (special case I guess, she went especially insane after taking her first L), Joanna Gatekeeper, Aldo, I sort of want to include Anderson but he did get his shin turned into two pieces and also was revealed to have been cheating for perhaps a decade. Ronda is a special (head) case. Joanna seems to have met the rock to her scissors in Rose. Aldo only recently started looking beatable after a near decade of dominance. Anderson got old and met USADA, his toughest opponent to date. I've seen guys rebound from devastating losses early on in their careers to find success later. RDA's first big accomplishment was being one of the best parts on Jeremy Stephens's highlight reel.
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May 3, 2018 13:20
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Fair enough. With Aldo it kind of feels like Conor made him irrelevant with the 13 second KO.
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May 3, 2018 13:30
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Lid posted:Anderson made sure there was never another Abu Dhabi card and for that we should be eternally grateful The fight night with Nelson vs Big Nog
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Yeah out of the people you listed: Aldo: has gotten housed by Max and outside of that dominated Frankie Joanna: beaten just by Rose and we don’t know what 3 round Joanna will bring Ronda: lol Andy: as said, USADA So it’s not really a consistent thing and only Andy has a complete post-championship picture.
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Fat Twitter Man posted:The fight night with Nelson vs Big Nog I feel safe in not remembering this ever happaned.
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May 3, 2018 13:57
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There are also cases like Anthony Pettis where a guy rises to the top only to have a hard fall down while discovering many in their division have figured out how to beat them.
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May 3, 2018 13:58
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Chris Weidman is a guy that (as sad as it makes me to say it being that I'm a fan) seemed to fall apart after his first loss after looking unbeatable for a bit.
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May 3, 2018 14:06
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Weidman hasn't lost to anyone who wouldn't beat the vast majority of the division since he beat the consensus GOAT. He peaked so extremely high that I think his recent record looks worse than it actually is.
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May 3, 2018 14:10
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El Roncho posted:Weidman hasn't lost to anyone who wouldn't beat the vast majority of the division since he beat the consensus GOAT. He peaked so extremely high that I think his recent record looks worse than it actually is. Fair enough. Still tough to watch him lose three times in a row though. Hopefully he's back on the upswing now.
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May 3, 2018 14:24
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Wamsutta posted:Fair enough. With Aldo it kind of feels like Conor made him irrelevant with the 13 second KO. He had 3 title fights after that loss how in the world does that make him irrelevant?
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May 3, 2018 14:38
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Mr. Carlisle posted:Fair enough. Still tough to watch him lose three times in a row though. Hopefully he's back on the upswing now. I think the IV ban hit him harder than some of his peers. IIRC, he's one of the people that took a nosedive when that happened. He still big brothered the gently caress out of Kelvin, and Gastelum schools most middleweights.
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May 3, 2018 15:51
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tesilential posted:Maybe she’ll display more power like a lot of the LW and WW guys who moved up. Weight divisions are overrated, lots of people in one weight class are bigger than guys fighting in the next weight class up. The strongest girl at 125 is Valentina, whom she’s competed against just fine. The top 5 at 115 is better and would beat the top 5 at 125 right now, Valentina aside is losing all 3 fights to a person "competing just fine" ? asking for a friend
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May 3, 2018 16:10
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It would depend how close the 3 fights were
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May 3, 2018 16:49
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Anderson was also already extremely old by the time his streak ended. He was 38 and in almost his 40th pro fight.
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May 3, 2018 20:15
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Skip My Posts posted:maia outstruck him with one eye in the fifth i thought? You're thinking of tyron woodley
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Gay Horney posted:You're thinking of tyron woodley gently caress you dude dont ever accuse me of that
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 lmao even better 
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May 3, 2018 23:26
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"the crying jew" really
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Yeah it was okay if not particularly great and then it just went off a cliff at the end there. No I'm not talking about Ronda's striking.
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May 4, 2018 00:29
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Cool racist pictures from mma underground or whatever
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May 4, 2018 00:48
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El Roncho posted:Ronda is a special (head) case. Joanna seems to have met the rock to her scissors in Rose. Aldo only recently started looking beatable after a near decade of dominance. Anderson got old and met USADA, his toughest opponent to date. Yeah, Aldo losing to Max is really a testament to how loving good Max is, because Aldo looked about as good as he's ever looked against him, both times. He still had that insane twitch hand speed. Max is just really loving good, and well rounded, and tough, and calm under pressure. RDA lost his first two UFC fights, including a fight where he looked like poo poo on the feet against Tyson loving Griffin. In a later fight, he managed to get his jaw broken by clay guida, and tap out to pressure on it in a fight he was otherwise winning. RDA has been a surprising and delightful guy to suddenly become among the very best in the division. I mean, he was a punchline for a good chunk of his UFC run, and then he just starts loving starching people. I've been a fan since the Rob Emerson fight so it's been awesome. DeimosRising posted:Anderson was also already extremely old by the time his streak ended. He was 38 and in almost his 40th pro fight. He was kind of old when his streak began, too. Andy's a weird dude who throws off lots of averages about age in MMA, especially since his style was so reflex and timing based. Matt Lindland posted:Cool racist pictures from mma underground or whatever Matt Lindland is absolutely correct. The gently caress is this poo poo?
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May 4, 2018 02:31
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mma according to Dana whites favourite messageboard
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El Roncho posted:There are also cases like Anthony Pettis where a guy rises to the top only to have a hard fall down while discovering many in their division have figured out how to beat them. There's a parallel with NFL quarterbacks. There are guys that do great until there is film on them.
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Aldo looking as good against Max as he ever did is kind of fake news. He did for a while but fell off hard. We haven't seen Aldo slow down like that (because he used to be on EPO and isn't anymore)
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LobsterMobster posted:is losing all 3 fights to a person "competing just fine" ? Competing doesn’t mean winning. Have you ever done a sport? Valentina didn’t smoke her in 2 rounds or anything.
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Gay Horney posted:Aldo looking as good against Max as he ever did is kind of fake news. He did for a while but fell off hard. We haven't seen Aldo slow down like that (because he used to be on EPO and isn't anymore) He fell off because Max punched him alot. In fact, i'd go so far as to say he completely fell off before the fourth and fifth rounds because Max had knocked him unconscious by then. Because Max is very good. In his only fight that wasn't against Max post USADA, against Edgar, he did better in the fifth round than in earlier ones.
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Snowman_McK posted:Yeah, Aldo losing to Max is really a testament to how loving good Max is, because Aldo looked about as good as he's ever looked against him, both times. He still had that insane twitch hand speed. Max is just really loving good, and well rounded, and tough, and calm under pressure. Max is amazing, and I don’t think I’ve had an MMA crush in years like the one I have on him. Max has got to be one of the most relentless fighters to ever step into the Octagon. He never flinches, and he never fades. He hits his stride, and it’s non-stop pressure until his opponent is dead. Max is really cool.
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Veni Vidi Ameche! posted:Max is amazing, and I don’t think I’ve had an MMA crush in years like the one I have on him. Max has got to be one of the most relentless fighters to ever step into the Octagon. He never flinches, and he never fades. He hits his stride, and it’s non-stop pressure until his opponent is dead. I mean, it's one thing to be able to take a punch. Lots of guys can do that. It's something else when you realise that even when Max gets loving cracked hard, he's completely lucid, still thinking and adjusting his gameplan. I wish he'd been the one to actually dethrone Aldo.
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I might be misremembering, but at the time I thought that the latest Aldo vs. Edgar was just a masterclass by Aldo. Max is really good I guess.
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Tsyni posted:I might be misremembering, but at the time I thought that the latest Aldo vs. Edgar was just a masterclass by Aldo. Max is really good I guess. It was
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I was watching one of the Edgar vs. Maynard fights and at one point Maynard threw a volley of punches to no effect until he exited the pocket with an uppercut that dropped Frankie. I think uppercuts are his kryptonite.It was just weird that it was almost the same uppercut that Ortega put him out with.
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May 4, 2018 10:53
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Aldo looked amazing in his most recent Edgar fight, but I seem to remember thinking he looked like he was juiced to the gills. And didn't look that way against max. He should just go up to 155.
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May 4, 2018 10:54
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Gay Horney posted:Aldo looking as good against Max as he ever did is kind of fake news. He did for a while but fell off hard. We haven't seen Aldo slow down like that (because he used to be on EPO and isn't anymore) Shut up you stupid bitch, lol. Untrustable posted:I was watching one of the Edgar vs. Maynard fights and at one point Maynard threw a volley of punches to no effect until he exited the pocket with an uppercut that dropped Frankie. I think uppercuts are his kryptonite.It was just weird that it was almost the same uppercut that Ortega put him out with. Maynard used the uppercut to great effect in both fights. Frankie keeps his hands wide and his chin up.
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Guy who struggles to maintain pace unless he's in control of the fight loses twice to a guy who dominates the pace of a fight... "Yeah, uh, this guy was on EPO."
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Southpaugh posted:Aldo looked amazing in his most recent Edgar fight, but I seem to remember thinking he looked like he was juiced to the gills. And didn't look that way against max. He should just go up to 155. Remind me, was it Aldo who responded to the IV ban with,"Well I'm just gonna do it anyway and they won't know I did it!" and he said this at a press conference?
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