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Max posted:FYI I've requested a replacement. hope you're well maximus
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 18:43 |
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Max posted:FYI I've requested a replacement.
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# ? May 4, 2018 15:12 |
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Max posted:FYI I've requested a replacement.
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# ? May 4, 2018 15:25 |
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Sorry to hear that Max. So, everyone else, since you're here, post some content. Gimme some of those reads. I'm curious.
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# ? May 4, 2018 15:28 |
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Max has been replaced by Genex.
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# ? May 4, 2018 15:33 |
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Hi
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# ? May 4, 2018 15:33 |
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Hey Gene! Welcome to the game. I had a bit of a meltdown D1, claimed, Bowmore was killed D1, TNL was killed N1, and that's were we are at.
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# ? May 4, 2018 16:33 |
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Hi Genex. Now you too get to experience the spectacle of me descending into conspiracy theory (also madness) as I try to find scum.
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# ? May 4, 2018 16:43 |
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Yami Fenrir posted:Hi Genex. Now you too get to experience the spectacle of me descending into conspiracy theory (also madness) as I try to find scum. What if you were the scum all along
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# ? May 4, 2018 18:42 |
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IcePhoenix posted:What if you were the scum all along If Yami is scum then first post claiming a Miller would be the ballsiest thing I think I've ever seen.
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# ? May 4, 2018 18:45 |
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SalTheBard posted:If Yami is scum then first post claiming a Miller would be the ballsiest thing I think I've ever seen. idk I think Thunderdoming someone who people had backed off on as being scum was pretty drat ballsy Really though, while it's ballsy, I don't think it's that out there
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# ? May 4, 2018 19:57 |
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I'm suspicious of AA, AS, Sal still, I think, And sure, why not, Asiina.
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# ? May 4, 2018 20:01 |
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IcePhoenix posted:idk I think Thunderdoming someone who people had backed off on as being scum was pretty drat ballsy Are you calling Yami scum? That seems to be your implication with your last two posts. Also, do you have any updated reads for Day 2?
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# ? May 4, 2018 20:07 |
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IcePhoenix posted:What if you were the scum all along Ah yes, I am the scum. Not the person that has a post history shorter than some of single posts of mine.
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# ? May 4, 2018 20:16 |
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Podima posted:Are you calling Yami scum? That seems to be your implication with your last two posts. The flavor Yami quoted from their post as the reasoning for being a miller is suuuper similar to mine and I'm not a miller so I've been wary since the claim, I just didn't say anything before because I wanted to see more of his posting first. I wish I could confidently say I think he's scum but honestly I'm more wary than anything, though I'd put him above Sal for now. A lot of the things that ping me about Yami's posting can easily be written off as "is used to playing different types of mafia games and is just making bad assumptions based off that experience" and it's hard to filter through that. As far as new reads, I'm still trying to reparse the thread. I probably should have replaced out when I got sick but I didn't think it would gently caress me up for three days. Yami just stood out to me today. It doesn't help that there's not even like two pages of posts for this day though. Yami Fenrir posted:Ah yes, I am the scum. Not the person that has a post history shorter than some of single posts of mine. Because trying to drive the conversation while appearing as a leader of scumhunting isn't a common scum tactic at all
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# ? May 4, 2018 20:20 |
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IcePhoenix posted:The flavor Yami quoted from their post as the reasoning for being a miller is suuuper similar to mine and I'm not a miller so I've been wary since the claim, I just didn't say anything before because I wanted to see more of his posting first. You know whats a far more common scum tactic? Lurking and saying nothing useful. Not saying that's exactly what you've been doing, but that's exactly what you've been doing.
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# ? May 4, 2018 20:23 |
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Yami Fenrir posted:You know whats a far more common scum tactic? Lurking and saying nothing useful. Everything I say is useful
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# ? May 4, 2018 20:27 |
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IcePhoenix posted:Everything I say is useful Hmm, no.
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# ? May 4, 2018 20:28 |
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IcePhoenix posted:The flavor Yami quoted from their post as the reasoning for being a miller is suuuper similar to mine and I'm not a miller so I've been wary since the claim, I just didn't say anything before because I wanted to see more of his posting first. Hmmm this is interesting. I'm skeptical that you would have counter-claimable flavor that similar and not have mentioned it immediately if it's that apparent to you. What pings you about Yami's posting? (I know you say it can easily be written off, but I want to hear your thought process.) As for there not being that many posts today, you know what the solution is to that! There's a bunch from Day 1 to comment on.
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# ? May 4, 2018 20:38 |
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Podima posted:Hmmm this is interesting. I'm skeptical that you would have counter-claimable flavor that similar and not have mentioned it immediately if it's that apparent to you. Like I said, I wanted to see more of his posting first. If I said it immediately he can just change his posting and I'd get less information out of it. Just look at his last few posts since I said that. quote:What pings you about Yami's posting? (I know you say it can easily be written off, but I want to hear your thought process.) strategy/setup spec based on other games (throne of lies, I guess?), undermining meta reads from people who have played together for a while, calling for a tracker to get a result on sal, and just general posting aggression quote:As for there not being that many posts today, you know what the solution is to that! There's a bunch from Day 1 to comment on. I'm trying! I probably should have waited to get home from work but the day is ending tonight and I wanted to at least get the thread moving in some direction again
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# ? May 4, 2018 20:55 |
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IcePhoenix posted:calling for a tracker to get a result on sal I totally missed this. Yo Yami if anything a watcher would be much more valuable because then we could see who is you know roleblocking the claimed Town Cop.
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# ? May 4, 2018 21:07 |
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Trying to call out what power roles should be doing is Not Good, don't do it. At best it's empty content, at worst it's rolefishing. I did miss Yami doing that before. IcePhoenix (and Sal since you're here), how do you feel about Yami's case on Asiina?
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# ? May 4, 2018 21:12 |
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SalTheBard posted:I totally missed this. Yo Yami if anything a watcher would be much more valuable because then we could see who is you know roleblocking the claimed Town Cop. Oh was that the role I was looking for? I haven't double checked on the wiki. Thanks. But yes, the big take I'm getting here is that I assuming too many things. Alas. I can only hope I will get a better game sense from experience, but this is my second forum mafia game so it might be a while off yet. Podima posted:Trying to call out what power roles should be doing is Not Good, don't do it. At best it's empty content, at worst it's rolefishing. I did miss Yami doing that before. I was kind of stating the obvious there - that knowing who roleblocked our cop would be useful - but yes, I suppose it was empty content. That single line. The case around it had at least some merit, I would argue (even if it ran off way too many assumptions), as I don't fully buy their reasons for the tone change. But, I am giving Sal the benefit of the doubt like I said. What is your opinion on the case, by the way? It feels a bit strange to me that you're asking others for their opinions on it but not voicing you own, as far as I can tell. IcePhoenix posted:Like I said, I wanted to see more of his posting first. If I said it immediately he can just change his posting and I'd get less information out of it. Just look at his last few posts since I said that. Hmm, well, I don't particularly like being called scum by a very scummy lurker who also happens to be calling for more posts while barely having any post themselves. Also I can't help but feel like you handpicked your negative opinions on me while not referring to my attempts at case work at all. "Posting aggression" also seems like a weird accusation, I am trying to find scum and put pressure on them here. As for undermining meta reads, I don't know if I am undermining it? I am most certainly not trusting it at all. It's a meta read based on other games. Not even this one. It's not even my meta read, why am I expected to trust someone else's meta read? Anyway, I see meta reads as a unreliable thing (Yes, I am aware I voted AA over it, but I also had little else to go off until I voted bowmore) to scumtell someone over. I see it as even more unreliable to see someone as town over it. Especially with little explanation. OMGUS and all, but I am not a big fan of your content right now, but there's barely any of it either. From my perspective, you've essentially come out of nowhere to suddenly accuse me of being scum. Nobody else sticked out to you at all? I mean, I am fully aware it's impossible to properly know others views on me, but nobody else has put up an opinion on me nearly as harsh as yours yet. It just feels weirdly homed in on me. As such I will fully admit my read on you is incomplete, but I would certainly vote you as a lurker lynch. However, my two big scum reads at the moment are Asiina and AA, which I posted casework on earlier. I already voted for Asiina, but I also do not really like how quiet AA has suddenly gotten after I essentially asked him to post more content.
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# ? May 4, 2018 21:38 |
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Sal, does Yami's flavor make sense with what a scum result would be for you?
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# ? May 4, 2018 21:52 |
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I apologize for low contenting this response but the workday is almost over and I have some errands to run so I'm not sure when I'll get home, and we are against the clock so I want to make sure this isn't left unresponded to.Podima posted:Trying to call out what power roles should be doing is Not Good, don't do it. At best it's empty content, at worst it's rolefishing. I did miss Yami doing that before. Obviously since I'm suspicious of Yami it's hard for me to buy the case. But it seems sound enough. The thing that gives me pause is that both times Yami has brought up Asiina it starts with her vote on AS. And it's been speculated that TNL's death may have been related to flavor starting to point towards a vote on AS. I'd like to go back and look at more posts around this but, again, lack of time. Yami Fenrir posted:Hmm, well, I don't particularly like being called scum by a very scummy lurker who also happens to be calling for more posts while barely having any post themselves. Also I can't help but feel like you handpicked your negative opinions on me while not referring to my attempts at case work at all. "Posting aggression" also seems like a weird accusation, I am trying to find scum and put pressure on them here. I was asked what pinged me. Casework is fine but if the negative bits outside that ping me then it's ultimately unreliable because you could just be trying to paint someone in the same way you're accusing me of trying to paint you.
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# ? May 4, 2018 21:58 |
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CCKeane posted:Sal, does Yami's flavor make sense with what a scum result would be for you? I'm sorry I don't understand the question. Pod I'll take another look at the case shortly
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IcePhoenix posted:I apologize for low contenting this response but the workday is almost over and I have some errands to run so I'm not sure when I'll get home, and we are against the clock so I want to make sure this isn't left unresponded to. I am in a Masonry with AS. I cannot claim to be unbiased towards them in a way, especially with the dialogue I had with them and Bottleknight. I believe However, regarding this case, it's a lot more about the "how" than the "who" for me. The case would have been the same if it was target at anyone else. It's this post that pinged me: Asiina posted:I believe Sal. Note how this post does not mention AS. This post led me to check their post history, which in turn lead to the case posted earlier.
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# ? May 4, 2018 23:18 |
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Also, I won't be able to be around at the deadline, again. It's at like, 4 am for me. I'll keep my vote on Asiina for the time being. Maybe the floating deadline will allow me to react to changes after I wake up again, but I don't think it's very likely.
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# ? May 4, 2018 23:20 |
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Sorry I've had some major stuff come up irl. I'm currently in 2 masonries. One traditional, one limited. The limited is with one other person. The masonry is with 2. I don't intend to replace out, but I won't be around until closer to deadline. Given my involvement oot, I have been quieter here. I'll be back as I can.
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# ? May 4, 2018 23:34 |
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SalTheBard posted:I'm sorry I don't understand the question. Would finding a stranger to be scum match with the flavor of your cop?
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# ? May 4, 2018 23:40 |
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CCKeane posted:Would finding a stranger to be scum match with the flavor of your cop? Yes. Basically my flavor is I'm psychic (stronger at night) that can look into a person's head to determine their alignment.
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# ? May 4, 2018 23:58 |
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Yami Fenrir posted:AA case 1 with some other thoughts. I've been a lot more careful about getting red in my eyes when it comes to OMGUS territory so I'm going to try to remain objective. While you do reference that you are more accustomed non mafia mafia your point about me inflating my posts or posting artificially. You've played 1 and read other games of mafia on this forum and should realize that day 1 casing is little more than what you are condemning.
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# ? May 5, 2018 00:12 |
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Yami Fenrir posted:What is your opinion on the case, by the way? It feels a bit strange to me that you're asking others for their opinions on it but not voicing you own, as far as I can tell. I don't care for it that much, but was holding back so as to see others' unvarnished opinions. Nevertheless, here: Yami Fenrir posted:I find that a fairly rapid 180. A night passed in between the two posts you call out. Changing opinions overnight or with time isn't unreasonable. quote:Not to mention the rest of their posts show no real casework from what I can tell. Most of their posts seem designed to stiffle discussion: She said why it was bad, because AS didn't say why I'm scum (which is accurate). Cases don't have to be long and flowery to be valid. Also, she expanded on it to prove that there was additional thought behind the statement, which is fine with me in my book. quote:And then the last post which really pinged me: I'll give you all of this as valid, but at the same time no reason has been shown in thread to doubt the cop claim. We even have a claimed miller - you - to give it additional validity by your very existence. (Yes, an Eccogame could have millers without cops, but eh.) It's not the slam dunk that you're framing it as.
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# ? May 5, 2018 00:47 |
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SalTheBard posted:Yes. Basically my flavor is I'm psychic (stronger at night) that can look into a person's head to determine their alignment. That's sounds incongruous with what Yami is saying, doesn't it?
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# ? May 5, 2018 00:53 |
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Also we've got about 3 and a bit hours, even with a theoretically floating deadline. Who would people vote today? I was making a list here and then I realized that a lot of people haven't posted more than once or twice today: Atomic Soda, Asiina, IllegallySober, Monathin. What gives, guys? (GeneX obviously gets a pass because he just replaced in.)
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# ? May 5, 2018 00:56 |
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Podima posted:Happy belated birthday buddy :33: LIFE is wishy washy PODIMA Yami Fenrir posted:Not to mention the rest of their posts show no real casework from what I can tell. Most of their posts seem designed to stiffle discussion: Could you explain how that quoted AS vote was meant to stifle discussion? It was a pretty clear-cut D1 vote to me.
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# ? May 5, 2018 01:26 |
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I'm not a big fan of yami's asiina case because I agree with or at least see where most of asiina's quoted reads are coming from that being said i also dont agree with this: IcePhoenix posted:strategy/setup spec based on other games (throne of lies, I guess?), undermining meta reads from people who have played together for a while, calling for a tracker to get a result on sal, and just general posting aggression maybe it's just because yami and i have been chattin a bit in our masonry but i dont think they're really scummy at all for this stuff. the speculation stuff goes off the deep end a bit but as they've said this is their second game on sa, i felt the same drat way when i started playing. basically i'm just glad yami is putting a bunch of content out there and that actually makes me feel a lot better about them. as opposed to the other person in my masonry who i think i am going to vote for again today
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# ? May 5, 2018 01:43 |
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oh poo poo i didnt respond to thisAtomic Soda posted:why is moat your #2? i agree with podima's read Podima posted:- Moat has aggressively avoided engaging with the game and stuck to snipey comments and a single jokevote that somehow became a serious vote, and shades of Shine V are beckoning me.
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# ? May 5, 2018 01:46 |
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i am going to reread moat and atomic soda then i shall put my newsboy cap on (its my thinking hat) and determine who, if not both, is scum
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# ? May 5, 2018 01:48 |
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I think Yami's claim is a gambit Also I don't really agree with his(her?) Cases ##vote yammi Please don't turbo me tonight I am gonna be out and unable to defend myself Can someone look up who was complaining about TNLs PR bc they are probably scum too
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