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drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

Beef Jerky Robot posted:

Better idea, move all comic characters into the public domain

There's already plenty of great superheroes in the public domain

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Beef Jerky Robot
Sep 20, 2009

"And the DICK?"

drrockso20 posted:

There's already plenty of great superheroes in the public domain

Look out Hollywood, here comes Stardust the Space Wizard

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

Beef Jerky Robot posted:

Look out Hollywood, here comes Stardust the Space Wizard

Super Wizard, not Space Wizard

Jackie D
May 27, 2009

Democracy is like a tambourine - not everyone can be trusted with it.


Joey McChrist posted:

go pens go jets :siren:

Caps year

Beef Jerky Robot
Sep 20, 2009

"And the DICK?"

drrockso20 posted:

Super Wizard, not Space Wizard

God where is my head these days

Trick question, it’s been absorbed by the Headless Headhunter, the hugest giant in the universe!

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Look, so long as there aren't any man-hating elephants about I should be fine.

CobiWann
Oct 21, 2009

Have fun!
Speaking of movies, my wife and I just watched Green Room. :stonk:

ChrisBTY
Mar 29, 2012

this glorious monument

Stardust the Super Wizard was Axe Cop, just written by an actual adult allegedly.

J-Ro
Jul 26, 2005

Child Of The Revolution

Cobra Kai is really loving good, and if you're a fan of the Karate Kid series you should check it out - the finale reveal of JOHN FUCKIN KREESE was fantastic and I hope they do a second season.

CobiWann
Oct 21, 2009

Have fun!

J-Ro posted:

Cobra Kai is really loving good, and if you're a fan of the Karate Kid series you should check it out - the finale reveal of JOHN FUCKIN KREESE was fantastic and I hope they do a second season.

What I liked was that Johnny is still an rear end in a top hat. One with some self realization, but still an rear end in a top hat.

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Joey McChrist posted:

go pens go jets :siren:
The Caps are going to win this series and I'm going to be mad online despite the fact that we won back to back Cups and the Caps are going to get shithoused by Tampa.

So go Vegas Knights after Monday when the Caps beat the Pens for the 2nd time in franchise history in the playoffs (man some rivalry when you can barely win a series)


ChrisBTY posted:

Stardust the Super Wizard was Axe Cop, just written by an actual adult allegedly.
The guy who created him was an absolute monster/awful human being, I think someone made a comic about his son talking about how much he wanted to kill his father for being the abusive rear end in a top hat that he was to his children and wife.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR
The Caps are going to win the Stanley Cup and hell, I'm glad of it.

yea ok
Jul 27, 2006

Jackie D posted:

Caps year

pft eat the poop

SamuraiFoochs
Jan 16, 2007




Grimey Drawer
LeBron James is the Bruno of basketball.

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

achillesforever6 posted:

The Caps are going to win this series and I'm going to be mad online despite the fact that we won back to back Cups and the Caps are going to get shithoused by Tampa.

So go Vegas Knights after Monday when the Caps beat the Pens for the 2nd time in franchise history in the playoffs (man some rivalry when you can barely win a series)

The guy who created him was an absolute monster/awful human being, I think someone made a comic about his son talking about how much he wanted to kill his father for being the abusive rear end in a top hat that he was to his children and wife.

Yeah Fletcher Hanks was a real piece of work

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

achillesforever6 posted:

The guy who created him was an absolute monster/awful human being, I think someone made a comic about his son talking about how much he wanted to kill his father for being the abusive rear end in a top hat that he was to his children and wife.

I think Alan Moore referenced him briefly in a comic (League of Extraordinary Gentlemen perhaps?) and gave the character the same death that Fletcher Hanks suffered in real life (he froze to death) and made a note that nobody mourned him.

bloodysabbath
May 1, 2004

OH NO!
On the subject of SW from like a page back, I enjoyed TFA very much and Rogue One finally gave the series a watchable prequel.

But TLJ killed me as I realized that these movies are going to fall off a loving cliff fast once all that’s left of the original cast are the droids (and maybe Chewbacca).

My issues have nothing to do with Spacewalk Leia (plausible in-universe) or the supposed SJW vast conspiracy to ruin Star Wars (Rey/Finn are as well written as they could be, even if Finn’s B-plot in TLJ was a dumpster fire.) They have everything to do with the finale:


a) Why did Holdo need to kamikaze when droids and presumably autopilot exist? This is the kind of thing that they could have explained away with one line of dialogue but somehow didn’t bother.

b) They have now written themselves into a situation where any time there’s a massive threat in this franchise, it’s going to need to be addressed why the heroes can’t solve it by hyperdriving something through it. Starkiller Base II? Hyperdrive. Death Star III? Hyperdrive it. (I understand they will not explain this because who gives a gently caress, toys will sell, fortunes will be made.)

c) If hyperdrive bomb is a viable last-stand option, this means that nobody in the entire Rebel Alliance thought to fly an X-wing through the Death Star’s equator, even when it was minutes away from blowing up the rebel base.

d) Aside from all that, I really hated how the director basically was all “haha nothing matters, the force doesn’t really matter, it doesn’t matter where Rey is from, let’s demystify the whole thing.” I hope IX reverses course and undos this and we find out space wizard poo poo actually matters again in the space wizard franchise.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

bloodysabbath posted:

d) Aside from all that, I really hated how the director basically was all “haha nothing matters, the force doesn’t really matter, it doesn’t matter where Rey is from, let’s demystify the whole thing.” I hope IX reverses course and undos this and we find out space wizard poo poo actually matters again in the space wizard franchise.

Gotta completely disagree with this. The whole thing wasn't "The Force is irrelevant" but rather "The Jedi don't own the Force, they don't have any special claim over it, they were just well trained in using it" and I loathe the idea of there being some special bloodline that is intrinsically "superior" to anybody else. That midichlorian bullshit in the prequels was the worst, and considering the New Order are basically a bunch of incompetent Nazi cosplayers I'm pretty onboard with the idea of a "nobody" like Rey being just as powerful and with the same potential as their precious Kylo Ren and his magic Skywalker blood.

NowonSA
Jul 19, 2013

I am the sexiest poster in the world!
Well turns out that my needing to basically install a windows 10 OS over the previous OS while upgrading my video card wiped out my PoE and Tyranny saves. Add that to the casualty pile along with no longer being able to log in to Granblue Fabtasy, which honestly is still the deepest cut.

On the Star Wars front I liked the high spots of TLJ too much for the issues to bother me beyond "hey that's kinda weird." The Force being available to anybody suited me just fine, that's how it was presented in all the books I'd read and the Skywalkers just got to have extra sauce to their abilities. I also definitely didn't mind the spacewalk at all because hey guess what, in a zero G environment it's probably really freakin' easy to push yourself around and even if you don't have a lot of force training when it's do or die I totally buy instinct taking over and making the best of those precious seconds you can spend in Vacuum before you go from mostly dead to fully dead.

The big hyperdrive moment I just chalk up to the First Order being caught with their pants down and some luck on the good guy's side. They've made such a big deal about hyperdrive calculations both in the movies and the books that I don't know if it's really as easy as just pointing a ship in the right direction and hitting the button. You probably need to be sending big ol' ships on suicide runs to have much of an impact too. And even if it is effective, one fresh Interdictor cruiser to lockdown hyperspace in a big ol' area around your fleet and you're fine. Really what bothered me more than anything in TLJ is Han jumping past the shield in Force Awakens both ignoring all my precious EU understanding of how hyperspace works and by just kind of eyeballing what should realistically be a .001 second margin of error between pulling it off and slamming into Starkiller Base. As soon as they went with that being totally fine I was just like okay, put that book logic out of the way and just enjoy the ride, and so far I have.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR
The ship in TLJ that went :killdozer: is bigger than pretty much any ship the rebels have had in any of the OT or Sequel Trilogy. If you sent an X-Wing at the Death Star at hyperdrive, it'd probably just bounce off and lose you a pilot. It'd have to be a really big ship to have any kind of effect. And the Rebels/Resistance aren't exactly in a position to be tossing away capital ships willy nilly when the Empire/First Order has basically limitless resources.

It's also worth noting that it only worked because Hux is a dumb tool and didn't realize what was about to happen until it was too late.

MJeff fucked around with this message at 10:20 on May 6, 2018

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

VJeff posted:

The ship in TLJ that went :killdozer: is bigger than pretty much any ship the rebels have had in any of the OT or Sequel Trilogy. If you sent an X-Wing at the Death Star at hyperdrive, it'd probably just bounce off and lose you a pilot. It'd have to be a really big ship to have any kind of effect. And the Rebels/Resistance aren't exactly in a position to be tossing away capital ships willy nilly when the Empire/First Order has basically limitless resources.

Also it's not like the bad guys were unaware it was happening, they just assumed she was trying to run away, knew the ship was empty, and were concentrating all their fire on the shuttles. Literally any other time they'd have shields up and would be blasting the gently caress out of the thing before it even had a chance to move.

VJeff posted:

It's also worth noting that it only worked because Hux is a dumb tool and didn't realize what was about to happen until it was too late.

But more importantly this. I love the grizzled old First Order dude at the start of TLJ who keeps complaining about how Hux is loving everything up and how they could have easily ended the entire thing the second they arrived if Hux hadn't insisted on making one of his big speeches. The First Order is full of complete loving idiot Empire fetishists who aren't anywhere near as smart as they think they are. Hux and Kylo Ren are hilariously awful at their jobs in spite of the resources and power at their disposal, and they keep loving up constantly because they can't control themselves (which is pretty much the Dark Side in a nutshell, going for the easy solution over the hard or complex one).

NowonSA posted:

just kind of eyeballing what should realistically be a .001 second margin of error between pulling it off and slamming into Starkiller Base.

Yeah I agree it was pretty much Han Solo in a nutshell, and super loving cool :colbert:

SamuraiFoochs
Jan 16, 2007




Grimey Drawer

bloodysabbath posted:

On the subject of SW from like a page back, I enjoyed TFA very much and Rogue One finally gave the series a watchable prequel.

But TLJ killed me as I realized that these movies are going to fall off a loving cliff fast once all that’s left of the original cast are the droids (and maybe Chewbacca).

My issues have nothing to do with Spacewalk Leia (plausible in-universe) or the supposed SJW vast conspiracy to ruin Star Wars (Rey/Finn are as well written as they could be, even if Finn’s B-plot in TLJ was a dumpster fire.) They have everything to do with the finale:


a) Why did Holdo need to kamikaze when droids and presumably autopilot exist? This is the kind of thing that they could have explained away with one line of dialogue but somehow didn’t bother.

b) They have now written themselves into a situation where any time there’s a massive threat in this franchise, it’s going to need to be addressed why the heroes can’t solve it by hyperdriving something through it. Starkiller Base II? Hyperdrive. Death Star III? Hyperdrive it. (I understand they will not explain this because who gives a gently caress, toys will sell, fortunes will be made.)

c) If hyperdrive bomb is a viable last-stand option, this means that nobody in the entire Rebel Alliance thought to fly an X-wing through the Death Star’s equator, even when it was minutes away from blowing up the rebel base.

d) Aside from all that, I really hated how the director basically was all “haha nothing matters, the force doesn’t really matter, it doesn’t matter where Rey is from, let’s demystify the whole thing.” I hope IX reverses course and undos this and we find out space wizard poo poo actually matters again in the space wizard franchise.


Yeah sorry but you read everything about the movie in literally exactly the wrong way. The whole point wasn't to demystify The Force, it was to say that the Jedi were stuffy, obsolete morons who got themselves killed by getting too wrapped up in how they thought it was all supposed to work. Now Rey is there to lead the new Jedi and she's doing it in a practical way that allows them to use the power without obsessing too much over the how and why.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

I still think the shot of that little kid casually grabbing the broom at the end of the film was a great touch. The obvious visual callback to Luke was there, but it's a nice reminder that when they found Luke he was a poor farmhand on a moisture farm in the middle of a giant loving desert planet whose main claim to fame was that a Mafia Slug ran things.

WrasslorMonkey
Mar 5, 2012

Hard to believe that in a few years time that young boy became a Jedi master

NowonSA
Jul 19, 2013

I am the sexiest poster in the world!
I'm already looking forward to 10-12 with the stars of the latest films being either cameos or staying super important, I'm fine either way. Have Rey either rounding up force sensitives from all over to train new Jedi who don't turn evil or leading a New Republic expedition into the unknown regions.

The greatest irony of all is that with the disarray caused by the Republic's capital being blown up and the First Order presumably being defeated, it would make perfect sense for movie 10 to focus on the political machinations of unifying what had been a shattered galaxy and finally bringing back the Republic for realsies this time with no major faction waiting to blow it all up. It won't surprise me at all if they do a big ol' time jump forward to skip all of that to get right to whatever Rian wants to do, and I hope they let him fully helm 10-12 so he can delve into whatever he wants to and pay off on the twists that he sets up, rather than deciding to mostly evaporate big revelations he'd been handed like he did with TLJ. If they do skip ahead like 10-15 years+ from the end of 9 then I hope we get to see multiple Jedi together as a squad of around 3-4 people, 4-9 has basically been 1-2 Jedi at any given time and even the prequels mostly had 2 Jedi working together at a time. Just kind of videogame it up a bit, give them each their own specialties, etc. Do a good guy version of the Knights of Ren, only actually put them in the movie, make that seven samurai homage complete!

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

VJeff posted:

The ship in TLJ that went :killdozer: is bigger than pretty much any ship the rebels have had in any of the OT or Sequel Trilogy. If you sent an X-Wing at the Death Star at hyperdrive, it'd probably just bounce off and lose you a pilot. It'd have to be a really big ship to have any kind of effect. And the Rebels/Resistance aren't exactly in a position to be tossing away capital ships willy nilly when the Empire/First Order has basically limitless resources.

It's also worth noting that it only worked because Hux is a dumb tool and didn't realize what was about to happen until it was too late.

yeah my take was that by the time you line up and get close enough for you to actually hit them before entering hyperspace you'd get blown out of the sky 10 times out of 10 except hux is an idiot

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
anyhow the worst part of TLJ was the casino sideplot that removed any tension from the space chase because apparently everyone could just leave at any time without any consequences

Your Parents
Jul 19, 2017

by R. Guyovich

Raskolnikov38 posted:

anyhow the worst part of TLJ was the casino sideplot that removed any tension from the space chase because apparently everyone could just leave at any time without any consequences

Actually, you're a racist misogynist for saying this.

yea ok
Jul 27, 2006

star wars

WrasslorMonkey
Mar 5, 2012

yea ok posted:

star wars

Don't let them end!

DoctorGonzo
Jul 25, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Leaving las Vegas is a good movie

bloodysabbath
May 1, 2004

OH NO!

WrasslorMonkey posted:

Don't let them end!

Now that Disney owns the IP, they never will end! A hundred more years of the Star War! Milk that poo poo into the ground! Every minor character, no matter how obscure, gets a movie, just like they got action figures. 2-1B: A Medical Droid’s Tale; coming 2067.

Aside: I actually did like most of TLJ aside from the worthless casino subplot, I thought they handled Luke in particular very well, and the explanations put forth here about why future/past battles don’t devolve into hyperspace dodgeball make sense! I just wish the movie did a good job of explaining this.

I still hated the whole “democratize the force” thing; combined with the last shot, it was essentially “hey kids the force was in you all along! P.S., buy all the toys,” which yes I know has always been the point of these films, but I am going to complain about it anyway.

To tie this to prograps, I used to have my Star Wars figures fight WWE ones. Some people think Brock broke the streak but it was actually Darth Vader in a lightsaber match. :colbert:

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR
The casino plot was inelegantly executed but it had its purpose within the themes of the movie.

That's basically TLJ in a nutshell. It's a reeeeally inelegant movie, but it had so many ideas I thought were just dynamite that I'm willing to meet it on its own terms.

SamuraiFoochs
Jan 16, 2007




Grimey Drawer
I just saw a commercial for Now That's What I Call Music 66.

They're still making those, what the hell

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR

SamuraiFoochs posted:

I just saw a commercial for Now That's What I Call Music 66.

They're still making those, what the hell

I guess there's enough of a market of "people who don't know what the hell iTunes and Spotify are". to justify it.

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

VJeff posted:

I guess there's enough of a market of "people who don't know what the hell iTunes and Spotify are". to justify it.

I've also heard that those kind of things are primarily made for foreign markets, and they just sell them here because why not(same reasoning behind those really crappy giant action figures that are basically shampoo bottles in how they're made)

CobiWann
Oct 21, 2009

Have fun!
Some people also just prefer physical media over digital. Hell, I still buy CD’s from Amazon because even though I can still download it on mp3 I just like having a physical copy in case of a database crash or the end of the world.

Part also of why I prefer books over Kindle. I’m the last person in my D&D group who brings books and a paper character sheet to game. I want something to hold in my hand.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


I still buy DVDs and BluRays all the time because for regular films I simply want to own what I want to watch and not risk it being taken off a streaming service (with advance notice if it's on Netflix, sometimes randomly if it's on other services)

For Criterion Collection films, I love having the booklets with the special essays about the film

Books and music I do both physical and digital, but I can't picture the day I even mostly (let alone completely) abandon physical movie releases. It's still far too convenient/perfect for me

Junpei Hyde
Mar 15, 2013




TBH I love TLJ to death but I'm goddamn astounded Disney greenlit it. It's so... unsafe, which is a really Un-Disney move.

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Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
You can pry my DVDs and books from my cold dead hands


I am the old man literally yelling at the cloud

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