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Is it even reasonable to get past R112 right now? I have all the artifacts but the hourglass is prohibitively expensive and even the first lineage 30 build on G00F requires E45 gems. Am I missing something or should I just finish this abdication to hit 112 and drop it for an update? I don't even know if anyone's playing this something's got the whole thread so hot and bothered. (good job tho for real)
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I'm still playing RG, if going offline and waiting over a week for T6 spells counts as "playing".
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May 4, 2018 00:51
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Eldercain posted:Is it even reasonable to get past R112 right now? I have all the artifacts but the hourglass is prohibitively expensive and even the first lineage 30 build on G00F requires E45 gems. Am I missing something or should I just finish this abdication to hit 112 and drop it for an update? I was playing until recently, but I quit at R114 because NGU is way more fun right now. You can slowly grind your way to all the way to R115, but each R is going to take several 24h+ long abdications. Undeadline druids will take you up to e40ish gems: S3200,C300,C1325,D245,D275,E260,E1425,A251,A375,A400,W350,W1375 Then buff total spell casts with angelline goblins for a day or so, should take you to at least 1e10 spells cast : S50,S3200,C175,C400,D245,E1,E145,E225,A10,A120,W25,W205 Around here, or maybe earlier, you'll want to take at least a couple days off of running useful builds just to buff your Uniformity, it's actually really powerful. Then angelline druids will get you the rest of the way: S3200,C300,C400,D245,D275,E260,E1425,A120,A251,A375,W350,W1375 With all the builds, pick undead artifact, and run them until you can afford Spiritual Surge 7. Not sure if you can get all the way to R115 with those, there are faceless builds that are more powerful but you have to run them for multiple days without closing your browser window or it resets your brainwave cast. If you make it to R115 you get a new reincarnation power that makes it significantly faster to get to level 30 lineages, but even then it will take weeks for a single one. edit: also g00f hasn't updated the builds since the last minor patch, which actually shook things up a bit, use the megathread instead.
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May 4, 2018 00:58
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Edly posted:I was playing until recently, but I quit at R114 because NGU is way more fun right now. You can slowly grind your way to all the way to R115, but each R is going to take several 24h+ long abdications. So I can pretty easily get up to e40 or so with dragonline druids, i have a good pipeline for that, and especially to the point that uniformity is really powerful, I agree, but on longer and longer R's you're looking at spending an extra 1-2 days running just to get it up with the factions you don't do production with. I think the idea of weeks to get to drow or dragon 30 I'll probably put it on the backburner. NGU here I come.
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May 4, 2018 01:02
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Eldercain posted:Is it even reasonable to get past R112 right now? I have all the artifacts but the hourglass is prohibitively expensive and even the first lineage 30 build on G00F requires E45 gems. Am I missing something or should I just finish this abdication to hit 112 and drop it for an update? I'm still grinding away at R110, hoping to get the more useful artifact sets Pretty Soon(tm). Meanwhile, I'm playing Universal Attractor in another window.
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May 4, 2018 09:31
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RG im like 8 days into a get to e14 faction coins to try for hourglass.... sort of wish i did 5 days buff instead of a few hours
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May 4, 2018 09:42
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Meskhenet posted:RG im like 8 days into a get to e14 faction coins to try for hourglass.... I think I got it at 2e13 and it still took 3 days. I'm lucky that it was only 10k away from my last set artifact. The next update better be more than 5 R's worth of content :| So as a new person to ngu I appreciate the faster rebirths compared to itrtg. Getting your caps down so fast owns
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May 4, 2018 15:09
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NGU: Switching into the 2D set really hurts because it's killing my magic stats  At the same time, it'll let me autokill GCT without Adv Training...
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May 4, 2018 19:32
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Magres posted:NGU: Switching into the 2D set really hurts because it's killing my magic stats You are most likely going to want to wear a mix of sets, and actually start switching gear during certain parts of the run around this time. Sets are not intended to be a full replacement.
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May 4, 2018 19:57
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pixaal posted:You are most likely going to want to wear a mix of sets, and actually start switching gear during certain parts of the run around this time. Sets are not intended to be a full replacement. I should've not trashed my Magitech Set then 
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May 4, 2018 23:15
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Samuringa posted:I should've not trashed my Magitech Set then definitely not the sword, as it's the only item in slot with a +gold bonus. Some of the other pieces have different bonuses too. Also, at lower levels, the scaling works such that sometimes lower tier gear is more powerful than higher tier gear on challenges.
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May 4, 2018 23:39
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Oh, I kept that one, I'm not that dumb, I just think Magic is lame.
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May 5, 2018 00:03
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At what point should I start keeping sets? I trashed up to and including the forest set (minus the ascended pendant) so far but I'm still wearing the cave set while I work on magitech.
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May 5, 2018 00:11
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I requested a while back the ability to archive maxxed out equipment so it's not in inventory, but can be resummoned at will with full stats. I'd pay AP for a feature like that.
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May 5, 2018 01:25
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Hey guys, .380 is out. It has loadouts. It has a lot of stuff. Enjoy and maybe buy some loadouts with AP if you're into that bye
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I'm getting an error when I try to load up NGUquote:An error occured running the Unity content on this page. See your browser JavaScript console for more info. The error was: Don't know if it's related to the patch or it's just me. Edit: Ah, I think it's Firefox, which I just updated. Must have broken compatibility somehow. Works fine in Chrome. Princey fucked around with this message at 03:24 on May 5, 2018 |
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May 5, 2018 03:21
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something posted:Hey guys, .380 is out. It has loadouts. It has a lot of stuff. Enjoy and maybe buy some loadouts with AP if you're into that bye Screw Loadouts, I'm so loving the Auto-Yggdrasil. It also means I have to get 200m energy and 30m magic some day, which is great because goals are good for a game's longevity. Finally finished all 25 Basic challenges and I'm not going back to Challenge Hell until my NGU numbers are way higher. Fruit of Power ß is a real MVP here, currently flexing 5500%. Love the new Magic NGU. Can't wait for beards. GOTY 2018.
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May 5, 2018 04:27
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SynthesisAlpha posted:
Wait. What? How are you even using Fruit beta in Basics? Why would you ever have runs over an hour?
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May 5, 2018 04:59
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Because most of the time it's set up the first 5 minutes of a rebirth and then it's off to the exciting world of responsibilities which, like all the best parties, runs from now until ???. Also hey, just hit level 99 Wandoos, feed the money pit and +1 Wandoos level! Can you go above level 100 Wandoos with money pit rewards? SynthesisAlpha fucked around with this message at 05:17 on May 5, 2018 |
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May 5, 2018 05:15
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If you high enough tiers yep. 110 max for 1 quint tier and 120 for 1 sextillion tier
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something posted:Hey guys, .380 is out. It has loadouts. It has a lot of stuff. Enjoy and maybe buy some loadouts with AP if you're into that bye Upon reloading it seems like I got a ton of exp. Is that from recalculated challenge rewards?
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May 5, 2018 10:43
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Zteuer posted:Upon reloading it seems like I got a ton of exp. Is that from recalculated challenge rewards? Yes.
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May 5, 2018 18:05
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I requested a while back the ability to archive maxxed out equipment so it's not in inventory, but can be resummoned at will with full stats. This would be cool and good
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May 5, 2018 20:57
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Zteuer posted:Upon reloading it seems like I got a ton of exp. Is that from recalculated challenge rewards? In a word: yes. Edit: I'm also starting work on beards, here's some early art of a couple of the beard concepts. They're supposed to be like a spec sheet or anatomy diagram style, but of course really stupid.  
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May 5, 2018 23:28
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RG: Is it just very bad luck that I'm not getting the Dragon Soul artifact despite having 6500 casts this game? I've set it up 3-4 times now and start excavating around 5000 casts, excavate ~5K times and still don't get it. Abdicate and wait till the next weekend. I know it's the artifact that I can get because when I don't have enough DB casts up, I lose the bubble that shows I can get an artifact. It's so frustrating and I feel like I'm missing something obvious.
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something posted:In a word: yes. I think someone referenced wooly willy, it made me think of a beard mechanic where you accumulate beard pixels. Maybe at 4 beard points you'd have 4 pixels of beard, enough for a Chaplain. Then maybe at 19 you'd have enough for a John Waters. Then at 24 you could get a patchy beard and so on.  
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Chakan posted:RG: Is it just very bad luck that I'm not getting the Dragon Soul artifact despite having 6500 casts this game? I've set it up 3-4 times now and start excavating around 5000 casts, excavate ~5K times and still don't get it. Abdicate and wait till the next weekend. I know it's the artifact that I can get because when I don't have enough DB casts up, I lose the bubble that shows I can get an artifact. It's so frustrating and I feel like I'm missing something obvious. Alternative idea: export before the excavation attempts, and if it doesn't work, re-import and let it sit for longer. The main issue, however, is that 6500 casts is awfully low to go for that artifact (0.000325 odds per excavation), although you'd still expect reasonable-ish odds in 5000 excavations. Sure as hell not anything approaching a guarantee though. What are you using for a build to rack up the casts, that's only getting to 6500 over the course of a weekend?
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Thanks for the response! It was my understanding that the chance was just (casts/200,000) which is like a 3% chance per successful excavation. I didn't bother setting up a better build because I've just come back from a ~4 month break, but the issue there is how long each cast lasts, almost 50s right now. I'm only on R73 so there's no rush, it's just that I've been trying to get it for a couple R to no avail, maybe I'll spend some time looking over it tonight and set it up for 20k casts.
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Chakan posted:Thanks for the response! It was my understanding that the chance was just (casts/200,000) which is like a 3% chance per successful excavation. I didn't bother setting up a better build because I've just come back from a ~4 month break, but the issue there is how long each cast lasts, almost 50s right now. I'm only on R73 so there's no rush, it's just that I've been trying to get it for a couple R to no avail, maybe I'll spend some time looking over it tonight and set it up for 20k casts. i believe it's druid challenge 4 that lengthens cast times? you can turn that off
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Chakan posted:Thanks for the response! It was my understanding that the chance was just (casts/200,000) which is like a 3% chance per successful excavation. Nah, it's (casts / 200,000) PERCENT chance, so 0.03% per hit. ~Artifacts~.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I think someone referenced wooly willy, it made me think of a beard mechanic where you accumulate beard pixels. This, and make it so the placement of pixels determine what type of benefit you get. Then set it up so the placement pattern for ideal min-maxing turns out to be a swastika.
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Chakan posted:Thanks for the response! It was my understanding that the chance was just (casts/200,000) which is like a 3% chance per successful excavation. I didn't bother setting up a better build because I've just come back from a ~4 month break, but the issue there is how long each cast lasts, almost 50s right now. I'm only on R73 so there's no rush, it's just that I've been trying to get it for a couple R to no avail, maybe I'll spend some time looking over it tonight and set it up for 20k casts. Ohhhhh... yeah part of that was my bad, when I quickly read it before work this morning I thought it was casts, period, rather than Dragon Breath casts specifically. I was wondering how the hell you'd manage such a low number at those Rs when Tax Collection is a thing. In that case yes, 6500 is much more reasonable though it still wouldn't hurt to aim higher. That said, go with Captain Foo's advice and turn off the reward for Druid Challenge 4 (you can toggle unlocked challenge rewards by clicking them on the challenge screen, no checkmark = reward not active), that should get the duration down somewhat. Don't forget to toggle it back on when you're done. Otherwise yes, expect to burn a few thousand excavations because as Kyrosiris pointed out, it's (casts/200,000) percent, so divide by 100 afterward to get a meaningful decimal.
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Or just use Lara Crypt and let it tell you exactly how many excavations it's going to take. Artifacts are the worst part of realm grinder.
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Absolutely. And the absolute worst artifacts are the A2 artifact sets. Complex math shouldn't be needed to play idle games. 
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Merijn posted:Absolutely. And the absolute worst artifacts are the A2 artifact sets. Complex math shouldn't be needed to play idle games. agreeeeeeeeed
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I quit at A1. Honestly, when you unlock Research it just becomes a "Do exactly this build until you get _ gems, then do this one then Reincarnate. Repeat."
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It's interesting at what point your brain says "gently caress this, this is silly" considering you're already playing a game with minimal input. For example, I couldn't play Clicker Heroes when I realized all I do is prestige every once in a while, enter my save in the ancients calculator thing, and start over according to what the thing told me to do. Or Transport Defender, which has that button to make your weapons auto-upgrade according to rules you set so the game actually straight-up plays itself.
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That's another feather in the cap for NGU. You're always making decisions on what avenue of growth to pursue. Am I maximizing XP, pushing for a highest boss kill, cranking out challenges, levelling up NGU skills, focusing on adventure stats or gear. Incremental games need those multiple paths of progression and actual decision making on the part of the player that goes beyond just buying a building or chasing a single prestige number that just functions as a multiplier or content gate. It's a heavily saturated genre because the barrier to entry is so low. Slap some scaling formulas on costs, make a hundred upgrades with clever names. The good games are the ones that make your decisions matter beyond how frequently you spend your resources to increase production. Realm grinder is cool but it's so heavily played that all the optimal paths are laid out, and a lot of that choice is illusory. Like undead are supposed to be good for long runs, but are they really? All their time scaling isn't even as good as just being elves or spending that long run as faceless to improve that one challenge passive that scales with faceless time. Idle wizard is another game that seems like you have all these choices but what it actually plays like is go X wizard class for this range of prestiges and such class has one optimal spell/pet/gear/stat spread. I mean I'm pretty heavy on the NGU bandwagon, partly because it's being actively, rapidly developed, but something has really hit on how to make idle games good and give players actual decisions on playstyle and paths of progress. The campy self aware humor is just a bonus.
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It is finished: Swarm Simulator Start Date 3 years ago - Thu Mar 26 2015 17:55:43 GMT-0600 (Mountain Daylight Time) Today, at work, I finally got Manifest Destiny.
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I can't get into NGU no matter how many times I try. I don't know what I'm missing. It must be something. Maybe it's a little too "interfacey" for me or something. There's no fantasy to it. But I don't know, I could just be missing it.
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