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The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


^SHTPSTS

Gary’s Answer
Seasons 4 untucked is loving messy holy poo poo.

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alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012


hahaha people are going to town loving with RPDR on wikipedia recently

jiggly confirmed as winner of s4, tati listed as winner of s2

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!

alf_pogs posted:

hahaha people are going to town loving with RPDR on wikipedia recently

jiggly confirmed as winner of s4, tati listed as winner of s2

I thought you meant All Stars, and I was about to ask if the cast of All Stars 4 has leaked yet.

Weed Wolf
Jul 30, 2004

jit bull transpile posted:

Seasons 4 untucked is loving messy holy poo poo.

its also probably one of the best just bc of willam

Pinwiz11
Jan 26, 2009

I'm becom-, I'm becom-,
I'm becoming
Tana in, Tana in my mind.



Between the second Eurovision Semifinal and Drag Race this Thursday is easily going to be one of my gayest days this year.

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

by reading this post you have agreed to form a gay socialist micronation.
`

Pinwiz11 posted:

Between the second Eurovision Semifinal and Drag Race this Thursday is easily going to be one of my gayest days this year.

Oh hey eurovision/drag race buddy! I'm a little disappointed that there's no gay af Montenegro 2017 analogue this year because Slavko was exactly what i wanted.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right
We only just got gay marriage legislated here in Australia a few months ago and friends of mine arranged their wedding to happen last week so they get to spend their honeymoon at Eurovision :iia:

Pinwiz11
Jan 26, 2009

I'm becom-, I'm becom-,
I'm becoming
Tana in, Tana in my mind.



QuickbreathFinisher posted:

Oh hey eurovision/drag race buddy! I'm a little disappointed that there's no gay af Montenegro 2017 analogue this year because Slavko was exactly what i wanted.

Aw... I'm going in completely blind tomorrow, I'll have to go into total lock down while I'm at work. Can't wait to be surprised.

Apparently Shangela is hosting with Ross Matthews on Logo this year instead of Michelle Visage. (I still miss Michelle Collins... she was made for this. I know her and Carson didn't sit well with the viewers.)

Chaotic Flame
Jun 1, 2009

So...


Just booked tickets to Werq the World!!! I'm so excited

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


^SHTPSTS

Gary’s Answer

Chaotic Flame posted:

Just booked tickets to Werq the World!!! I'm so excited

I am probably going also! Hopefully Sharon Needles is sober!!

tote up a bags
Jun 8, 2006

die stoats die

alf_pogs posted:

hahaha people are going to town loving with RPDR on wikipedia recently

jiggly confirmed as winner of s4, tati listed as winner of s2

But both of these are completely accurate

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




tote up a bags posted:

But both of these are completely accurate

c'mon gurl Willam won the moment he got disqualified. Jiggly is a lovely first alternate tho.

tote up a bags
Jun 8, 2006

die stoats die

esperterra posted:

c'mon gurl Willam won the moment he got disqualified. Jiggly is a lovely first alternate tho.

I'll accept a joint crowning

Deus Ex Macklemore
Jul 2, 2004


Zelensky's Zealots

tote up a bags posted:

I'll accept a joint crowning

Title of your sex tape

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

by reading this post you have agreed to form a gay socialist micronation.
`

Pinwiz11 posted:

Aw... I'm going in completely blind tomorrow, I'll have to go into total lock down while I'm at work. Can't wait to be surprised.

Apparently Shangela is hosting with Ross Matthews on Logo this year instead of Michelle Visage. (I still miss Michelle Collins... she was made for this. I know her and Carson didn't sit well with the viewers.)

Aah, sorry, hope that wasn't too much of a spoiler :( there's still definitely some Gay Content.

I saw that it will be Shangela, I'm so excited for that. I hope she gets to have a little fun with it.

Pinwiz11
Jan 26, 2009

I'm becom-, I'm becom-,
I'm becoming
Tana in, Tana in my mind.



Not a spoiler at all, I just like not knowing the songs until I sit there all mouth agape.

Hopefully Shangela can have fun with it and not piss anyone off. Honestly, Carson and Collins didn't say anything worse than Graham Norton...

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012


http://www.vh1.com/video-clips/4lsn5p/rupauls-drag-race-first-look-the-unauthorized-rusical

preview for next week!

the vixen's level of pettiness continues to make me swoon and screech in equal measure. "but you attacked... my dream". bitch, please! just like highlander, there can be only one. nevertheless, eureka continues to annoy. "i didn't have a problem with vixen to begin with". my eyes nearly rolled the gently caress out of my head.

kameron getting some focus! holy poo poo! she seems more and more like a final three competitor now, especially given this week's cher-themed challenge. the michaels dynasty lives on.

this mini-challenge might be the best one in the whole god drat show. ru still says the technically-correct-but-still-weird-to-me 'jif'. i love it. i love her. she seems to legitimately crack up at monet's diss as well. WE GET A VANJIE IN THE FIRST TEN MINUTES OF THE EPISODE. asia is the queen of shade, seriously and god drat i love her - but it gives me life to see her get accidentally for-real smacked in the face by ru. god drat that's funny.

another rusical - this time with live singing! hurrah! now even if when they get terrible, terrible lyrics, it should still be entertaining and queens have a chance to redeem or doom themselves. good stuff

Pellisworth
Jun 20, 2005

alf_pogs posted:

http://www.vh1.com/video-clips/4lsn5p/rupauls-drag-race-first-look-the-unauthorized-rusical

preview for next week!

the vixen's level of pettiness continues to make me swoon and screech in equal measure. "but you attacked... my dream". bitch, please! just like highlander, there can be only one. nevertheless, eureka continues to annoy. "i didn't have a problem with vixen to begin with". my eyes nearly rolled the gently caress out of my head.

kameron getting some focus! holy poo poo! she seems more and more like a final three competitor now, especially given this week's cher-themed challenge. the michaels dynasty lives on.

this mini-challenge might be the best one in the whole god drat show. ru still says the technically-correct-but-still-weird-to-me 'jif'. i love it. i love her. she seems to legitimately crack up at monet's diss as well. WE GET A VANJIE IN THE FIRST TEN MINUTES OF THE EPISODE. asia is the queen of shade, seriously and god drat i love her - but it gives me life to see her get accidentally for-real smacked in the face by ru. god drat that's funny.

another rusical - this time with live singing! hurrah! now even if when they get terrible, terrible lyrics, it should still be entertaining and queens have a chance to redeem or doom themselves. good stuff


fwiw Kameron is not part of the SoCal Michaels dynasty

Pinwiz11
Jan 26, 2009

I'm becom-, I'm becom-,
I'm becoming
Tana in, Tana in my mind.



We've said it before, but OH GOD I'M SO HAPPY WE HAVE THE MINI CHALLENGES BACK.

Shneak
Mar 6, 2015

A sad Professor Plum
sitting on a toilet.
The season 11 thread better be titled 'Asia O'Hara's Drag Race.'

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012


Pinwiz11 posted:

We've said it before, but OH GOD I'M SO HAPPY WE HAVE THE MINI CHALLENGES BACK.

the 90m format has been a boon for the show. mini-challenges, ru in the workroom, full runway critiques. every minute gives me life!

Pinwiz11
Jan 26, 2009

I'm becom-, I'm becom-,
I'm becoming
Tana in, Tana in my mind.



Shneak posted:

The season 11 thread better be titled 'Asia O'Hara's Drag Race.'

At this point it's either that or MISS VANJIE.

the escape goat
Apr 16, 2008

What a week it's been.
So much to talk about.
And so many things we can't talk about.

I honestly never thought that a contestant could be more of a downer than Nina Bo'nina Banana Fofana Osama Bin Laden Brown (boom boom boom).

But now we have The Vixen.

Fuuuuuuuuuuck.

I hope that Ru just decides to switch her out with Miss Vaaaaaaaanjie in the middle of an episode with no mention of it.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




alf_pogs posted:

the 90m format has been a boon for the show. mini-challenges, ru in the workroom, full runway critiques. every minute gives me life!

I wonder if they'll keep the runtime for 11, or if it's just a season 10 landmark thing. Either way I hope they take some cues from the editing. Having mini challenges and more time spent with Ru interacting with the girls makes it feel so much more like a proper season of Drag Race.

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012


esperterra posted:

I wonder if they'll keep the runtime for 11, or if it's just a season 10 landmark thing. Either way I hope they take some cues from the editing. Having mini challenges and more time spent with Ru interacting with the girls makes it feel so much more like a proper season of Drag Race.

this season, i've found find myself wishing Survivor would adopt the 90m format. there's so many cast members who never get any airtime, who feel completely underdeveloped, and entire plot points that disappear because of the tight cut needed for telly.

the extended 90m episode gives you time to think about characters that you might not otherwise. everyone gets a look-in.

that said, i think RPDR has generally had a pretty solid editing team, even when it was shorter eps.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




The editing has always been good and delightfully shady, but the earlier seasons had episodes the same length of seasons 7-8-9 and still had time for mini challenges and werkroom Ru. As for runway/critique time in those seasons, I blame all the scripted challenges and musicals. They always run long so we get a truncated runway more often than we should.

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!
Also, a lot of the time the runway was the challenge, so there was naturally more time to cover everything.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Propaganda Machine posted:

Also, a lot of the time the runway was the challenge, so there was naturally more time to cover everything.

I'm so happy design challenges have been making a comeback.

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!

esperterra posted:

I'm so happy design challenges have been making a comeback.

Yeah, They're really capturing the Thailand formula of decent mini, decent maxi, decent runway. It's a beautiful thing.

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

Does anyone know how I can watch untucked in the UK?

SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL
Feb 21, 2006

Holy Moly! DARKSEID IS!

Frankly I think Vixen is being unfairly piled on. I’ve soured on Eureka (which sucks because overall she’s a strong if not one-note competitor) because she outright stated she purposely says certain things to get a rise out of people. “Oh, it’s a competition, people shouldn’t take it personally.” But Eureka - or the producers who chose what to show us - keeps making word choices that push Vixen’s buttons. Vixen was very hurt, and oh, don’t the producers WANT to see that explosive vulnerability on the show? It’s an extremely dicey thing but the overall attitude towards Vixen on social media is very willfully ignorant of what we’re being shown and ignorant of what we know to be true: that we NEVER get the full, true story of what happens in filming. It’s a mess, and not a fun “go back to Party City” mess either.

Between Ru’s ignorant trans remarks and my being more aware of how the show tries to manipulate my perspective as a viewer (much like Eureka tries to manipulate the narrative by poking for a reaction) I keep questioning why I return to this show every season.

Miss Vanjie needs to come back, sending her home was total bullshittery.

the escape goat
Apr 16, 2008

What a week it's been.
So much to talk about.
And so many things we can't talk about.

Vixen is being “piled on” because she’s being an rear end in a top hat. She lashes out every chance she gets, claims people won’t let her speak when she steamrolls everyone, and is insistent that she gets along with everyone but Eureka when that’s clearly not the case.

She hasn’t brought anything to the competition other than constant antagonism and that one gorgeous peacock dress.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!

alf_pogs posted:

this season, i've found find myself wishing Survivor would adopt the 90m format. there's so many cast members who never get any airtime, who feel completely underdeveloped, and entire plot points that disappear because of the tight cut needed for telly.

the extended 90m episode gives you time to think about characters that you might not otherwise. everyone gets a look-in.

As someone who has seen 35 of the 36 seasons of Survivor, it doesn't matter how long the episodes are, it would have the same effect. For most of the show's history they were able to fit in all contestants into each episode, and up through maybe the 15th season I was able to remember the name of every single person to compete on the show.

But as the show has gone on, Jeff Probst and the other producers have instead focused on macho men doing macho things, or any contestant making big moves. If you're not one of those two, you're simply not going to be shown. It started to become obvious what was going on when they stopped talking to everybody at the reunion. There was even that one season where they didn't even have everyone on stage.

If they extended the episodes to 90 or even 120 minutes, you're not going to get more of Sebastian who I'm not even sure has spoken a single word on camera all season. You're just going to get an addition 30-60 minutes of Dom, Wendel and Laurel.

Of course, it doesn't help the fact that this is one of the worst playing casts they've had on in a long time, or that this season is relying on a gimmick to an absurd extreme.

/end off topic rant/

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




I live(d) for Vixen but she's been stirring poo poo since day one. Lest we forget her shoving her nose in Aquaria and Cracker's business and repeatedly trying to gently caress with people for her own entertainment when she has the power to pick teams.

She's made a lot of excellent points about how fans view queens of colour on this show. But she is also a super bitch.

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012


i agree; the vixen still rules.

the most moving part of the last ten seasons of untucked is vixen getting a message from home, then crying saying she wasn't angry, she was hurt. that poo poo was real. she also - quite accurately, as far as her footage in the show is concerned - said she only cries when people say nice things about her; the rest of the time she gets mad.

meanwhile, eureka spent the first three episodes crying because she wasn''t automatically doing as good in challenges as she wanted. bah!!! give me one hundred vixens. i'd rather her explosive, irrational temper every day of the week.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




They're both way too extra in two very different ways and I love the drama.

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012


Nihonniboku posted:

As someone who has seen 35 of the 36 seasons of Survivor, it doesn't matter how long the episodes are, it would have the same effect. For most of the show's history they were able to fit in all contestants into each episode, and up through maybe the 15th season I was able to remember the name of every single person to compete on the show.

But as the show has gone on, Jeff Probst and the other producers have instead focused on macho men doing macho things, or any contestant making big moves. If you're not one of those two, you're simply not going to be shown. It started to become obvious what was going on when they stopped talking to everybody at the reunion. There was even that one season where they didn't even have everyone on stage.

If they extended the episodes to 90 or even 120 minutes, you're not going to get more of Sebastian who I'm not even sure has spoken a single word on camera all season. You're just going to get an addition 30-60 minutes of Dom, Wendel and Laurel.

Of course, it doesn't help the fact that this is one of the worst playing casts they've had on in a long time, or that this season is relying on a gimmick to an absurd extreme.

/end off topic rant/

you're very right. i want them to take bigger, more substantial risks with survivor. all they do is introduce new idols, new plot gimmicks. they play the editing incredibly safe - after thirty five season, they still don't know how to make a goat compelling, unless they're a ZaNy ChArAcTeR like phil shepherd. it's very very frustrating. i think there's plenty of life left in the survivor tank, but it's all in the NZ and australian seasons now.

this is very off-topic though. drag race is life!!

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!

alf_pogs posted:

you're very right. i want them to take bigger, more substantial risks with survivor. all they do is introduce new idols, new plot gimmicks. they play the editing incredibly safe - after thirty five season, they still don't know how to make a goat compelling, unless they're a ZaNy ChArAcTeR like phil shepherd. it's very very frustrating.

So true.

alf_pogs posted:

i think there's plenty of life left in the survivor tank, but it's all in the NZ and australian seasons now.

this is very off-topic though. drag race is life!!

Oh, I have too much TV in my rotation, I can't imagine trying to track down foreign seasons. I only managed to watch the first 2 episodes of Drag Race Thailand.

I had to quite the Survivor threads because the misogyny in the thread last season got too much to handle.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!
This Cher musical was not very good... It's one thing to have a singing challenge, but to have it be in the singing style of one specific singer...

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Wungus
Mar 5, 2004

Aquaria was dressed like a Jojos Bizarre Adventure character off the runway. On the runway, it's just Pearl Again.

Also this week might be Kameron or Cracker's first win, dang.

e: or not, the judges weren't really here for Cracker. Still tho.

Wungus fucked around with this message at 02:19 on May 11, 2018

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