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May 7, 2018 22:01
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Sapozhnik posted:the standard exists and is called gstreamer because it's dogshit
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May 7, 2018 22:29
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Sapozhnik posted:the standard exists and is called gstreamer lets use the library most famous for having roughly ten million security holes when it was noted that it included a dozen different hacked up console emulators to play chiptunes
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May 7, 2018 22:32
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:because it's dogshit gstreamer is fine? What's dogshit about it?
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May 7, 2018 22:36
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ratbert90 posted:gstreamer is fine? What's dogshit about it? functionally, it can take 10+ seconds to assemble a pipeline and actually play anything. in a larger sense, the main problem is that most of the plugins are hot garbage. riddled with security holes, patent problems, unclear copyrights, etc
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May 7, 2018 22:40
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not sure what you think the solution to bad third party plugins existing is. are you suggesting that the chiptune poo poo is installed ootb on red hat? i could believe it on ubuntu, certainly. gstreamer-based thumbnailers did have some security issues, yes. iirc they are sandboxed now, so that class of security issues no longer exists. decoding video on the cpu is not an acceptable architecture in 2018, period. that's about four or five steps behind where things actually need to be right now. everything on cpu < software decoding with colorspace conversion in a gpu shader < software decoding with yuv overlays < hardware decoding with yuv overlays < zero copy hardware decoding with yuv overlays < full hardware codec with zero copy acquisition and presentation and at the rate things are going i'm going to be drawing social security with even h265 several decades out of patent before that last thing happens
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May 7, 2018 22:58
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ratbert90 posted:gstreamer is fine? What's dogshit about it? gstreamer itself classifies plugins into three categories: good (decent quality code, patent-free), bad (hot garbage trashfire, basically unmaintained), and ugly (good code and maintained but patent-encumbered). it should be telling that most of the plugins that you care about in most scenarios are in the "bad" category. firefox themselves said that "gstreamer wasn't MSE compliant", which i'm not sure i believe since at endless we built chromium-gstreamer and got hardware vdec working with it, but i believe it's a big enough pain to not bother supporting it. gstreamer's ridiculous threading model and apis are hard to use and even though comcast sunk a bunch of money into it they still don't use most of gstreamer.
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May 7, 2018 22:58
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The gstreamer vuln with the thing running 6502 code in an emulator because it was used for a NES chiptune codec is one of the better bugs.
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May 7, 2018 23:13
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:functionally, it can take 10+ seconds to assemble a pipeline and actually play anything. That just means your pipeline is poo poo. I've made plenty of gstreamer apps in the past and they all start instantly. Also, playbin is quite fast?
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May 7, 2018 23:17
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I cant install nvidia's junk without loving with this "nouveau" kernel module first so im gonna leave it be for now
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May 7, 2018 23:47
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weird workaround I've found so far is to post links to the videos in discord and then watch it through the embed preview in chat. whatever rendering stuff linux discord uses works when firefox and chromium don't
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May 8, 2018 00:04
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presumably a web video client would construct the pipeline itself rather than throwing it at playbin2, which eliminates the trash fire plugins and the startup delay iirc thee MSE thing requires access to the MP4 bitstream at a lower level than gstreamer provides
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May 8, 2018 01:06
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It always puzzled me how I could easily hardware decode things in media players in linux but browsers was impossible, last I tried you could hackup chrome to be the chromeos version and it would do hardware decode. which leads me to think that google won't enable it for non chromeos due to how every distro, subdistro and whatever changes something on it that would render it not functional
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May 8, 2018 01:34
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Celexi posted:It always puzzled me how I could easily hardware decode things in media players in linux but browsers was impossible, last I tried you could hackup chrome to be the chromeos version and it would do hardware decode. i don't know the story on the firefox side, but for chrome it is easily explained google ships their own copies of every library, and sets an LD_LIBRARY_PATH. their ffmpeg doesn't link to your system vdpau. it is difficult to ship your own vdpau because it is provided by graphics drivers. although, chrome obviously has no problem loading opengl; why doesn't it load vdpau the same way?
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May 8, 2018 01:43
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its because computers were a mistake. folk's we gotta go back in time and whoop Babbage's rear end
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May 8, 2018 02:15
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YOSPOS: folk's we gotta go back in time and whoop Babbage's rear end
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May 8, 2018 04:33
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https://streamable.com/2ncio saved this vid to disk and tried opening it in the video player. whole system locked up, couldnt ctrl+alt+F2 to get to a console, nothing. amazed that linux poo poo still breaks this badly in 2018
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May 8, 2018 04:43
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I upgraded to Fedora 28 using the auto upgrader and had to remove ghostscript first because apparently it used to be one humongous package and now they’re splitting it into binaries and libraries. After an otherwise painless upgrade, I noticed that Fedora finally dispensed with the one nicety that I’ve always took the time to enable (besides alternatetab) - desktop icons then again, they promise to bring it back I really hope this gets fixed before the next centos gets released, since desktop icons are an incredibly important part of the workflow for many people
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May 8, 2018 09:00
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May 8, 2018 15:59
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ok I lasted two days before giving up and reinstalling win10. linux still too lovely for desktop use
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May 8, 2018 16:00
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brand engager posted:https://streamable.com/2ncio opens and plays fine in vlc and mpv works for me, you're holding it wrong, etc...
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May 8, 2018 16:17
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The_Franz posted:opens and plays fine in vlc and mpv Also works fine with me.
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May 8, 2018 16:35
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drat it’s almost like a big part of the problem with desktop linux is a complete lack of coherent management allowing one persons computer and not others to eg hardlock playing a video
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May 8, 2018 18:22
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i like how nvidia refusing to support for their products well is a desktop linux problem
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May 8, 2018 18:34
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Phobeste posted:drat it’s almost like a big part of the problem with desktop linux is a complete lack of coherent management allowing one persons computer and not others to eg hardlock playing a video
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May 8, 2018 18:51
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*windows crashes due to buggy as poo poo webcam driver you installed to chaturbate written by some dude in Belarus * "loving micro$haft" *bloatware running in the background crashes explorer* "fuk you Satya"
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May 8, 2018 19:27
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Truga posted:i like how nvidia refusing to support for their products well is a desktop linux problem the idiot really cannot usefully be blamed for making stupid decisions, but it is still not wise to elect him president
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May 8, 2018 19:38
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Best Bi Geek Squid posted:*windows crashes due to buggy as poo poo webcam driver you installed to chaturbate written by some dude in Belarus *
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May 8, 2018 20:02
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if only we had a stable binary driver abi so that linux could experience the quality of IHV-supplied drivers that windows enjoys
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May 8, 2018 20:07
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the situation with nvidia is pretty unfortunate but again, all they gotta do is get a kernel driver into mainline and they can make their userland (the bit with the clever stuff) as proprietary as they want, and they'd have a rock solid kernel abi to program against as well. you know, the exact thing that amd's proprietary driver just accomplished with a fraction of nv's resources. no, the linux kernel must be made to look exactly like the nt kernel down to the HANDLE and DWORD typedefs and if you don't do that then we're going to throw all our toys out of the pram
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May 8, 2018 20:10
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*Slams dick into car door* Well this door is just plain broken!
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May 8, 2018 20:41
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ratbert90 posted:*Slams dick into car door*
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May 8, 2018 20:46
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Sapozhnik posted:rock solid kernel abi lmao
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May 8, 2018 21:08
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May 8, 2018 21:14
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May 8, 2018 21:20
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install a windows 7 gpu driver on windows 10 and lmk know you get on
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May 8, 2018 21:22
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Sapozhnik posted:install a windows 7 gpu driver on windows 10 and lmk know you get on Hell, install an original win10 gpu driver on the latest update.
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May 8, 2018 21:35
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Sapozhnik posted:the situation with nvidia is pretty unfortunate but again, all they gotta do is get a kernel driver into mainline and they can make their userland (the bit with the clever stuff) as proprietary as they want, and they'd have a rock solid kernel abi to program against as well. you know, the exact thing that amd's proprietary driver just accomplished with a fraction of nv's resources. i got a laptop with an nvidia quadro p3000. wanted to do cuda so i installed the nvidia proprietary blob somehow the garbage fire trashheap nvidia driver is worse at 3d acceleration on this card than intel uhd graphics. turning on desktop compositing results in windows moving at 2 fps when i drag them across the screen had to turn on the intel uhd drivers and disable the nvidia xorg driver so i can have cuda and a functional desktop. meanwhile, i have a laptop with a recent radeon, and it works out of the box with hybrid graphics on linux and kms and everything. thanks nvidia for your lovely drivers
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Condiv posted:i got a laptop with an nvidia quadro p3000. wanted to do cuda so i installed the nvidia proprietary blob comedy option: use coriander and nouveau
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