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qhat posted:"You're not going to get a better deal elsewhere" - #1 sales strat since the dawn of time
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dragon enthusiast posted:idk if not having to deal with all the bullshit of my current job is going to offset the ~7% loss of figgies Just how bad is this bullshit? Like, so intolerably bad that it's literally making you suicidal?
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May 8, 2018 02:59
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qhat posted:"You're not going to get a better deal elsewhere" - #1 sales strat since the dawn of time
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May 8, 2018 03:25
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Fiedler posted:Just how bad is this bullshit? Like, so intolerably bad that it's literally making you suicidal?
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May 8, 2018 03:27
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FMguru posted:he said "current job" not "youre posting" savage
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May 8, 2018 03:35
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got some "pair programming" on CoderPad coming up. also got rejected from a place i accidentally hung up on.
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May 9, 2018 00:00
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I've got a phone interview tomorrow with head of recruitment at some joint in downtown. Glassdoor tells me they pay figures.
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May 9, 2018 00:59
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qhat posted:I've got a phone interview tomorrow with head of recruitment at some joint in downtown. Glassdoor tells me they pay figures. get paid, son
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May 9, 2018 06:15
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Shaman Linavi posted:got some "pair programming" on CoderPad coming up. sounds like a good and cool technique Shaman Linavi posted:also got rejected from a place i accidentally hung up on. poo poo happens if they didn't want to deal with such a minor incident, welp, maybe they weren't worth working for
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May 9, 2018 06:17
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:poo poo happens I know it's a cliché to say that but like it's actually true. As an interviewer I'm pretty worried that I'm going to hire the wrong person so I want to make sure I know exactly which of the candidates is objectively the best. If they can't even bother to be thorough with you wrt hiring, then guess what, they probably weren't thorough with everyone else they actually did end up hiring.
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May 9, 2018 17:13
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oh boy a start up being incubated in an established company working with node you say? and you are using gitlab?? well where do i sign?!!!!!
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May 9, 2018 17:24
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Fiedler posted:Just how bad is this bullshit? Like, so intolerably bad that it's literally making you suicidal? I genuinely applied for a job taking a ~20% pay cut to get out of a previous poo poo hole that was affecting my mental health. The fuckers spent a month deciding to turn me down but in the meantime I'd applied for and eventually got a much better job and a 20% pay bump instead. My brains are much happier now.  I guess what I'm saying is if it's really that bad then absolutely you should put your brain ahead of your wallet.
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May 9, 2018 17:59
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Agreed. There are some situations that are entirely intolerable. (mlmp)
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May 9, 2018 19:00
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it definitely wasn't the existential crisis that led to me leaving my last job or anything approaching suicidal thoughts, more always coming back from work completely drained from putting out fires anyways I got them to tack on some extra stacks, figgies are now in the future
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May 9, 2018 19:33
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c interview s: smooth interview but wont hire based on technical chops i know test nerves are a thing but I was really up front about like "hey you can ask questions and use google to your heart's content" it was not a clever problem, it was something we've done tons on the job (using left joins correctly/effectively)
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May 9, 2018 22:22
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Lol at failing a simple problem even after Google is offered.
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May 9, 2018 22:24
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thread should be renamed “interviewing and recruiting the turd” quote this if you agree
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May 9, 2018 22:30
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:thread should be renamed “interviewing and recruiting the turd” quote this if you agree
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May 9, 2018 22:33
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D.C. job basically said "you're great but we want recent experience with the problem we made for ourselves, thanks for flying out and then back the next day and all." OK fair enough. They got me lunch and I got to see D.C. For profit job: won't even tell me my benefits info and played hardball over salary. I'm 5.5 years in, senior .NET dev, and they said 85-90. I said hell no. I asked for 105. They said that was high. 100. MEH. NON profit job: every other Friday off, amazing benefits UP FRONT, 95K but total compensation is great. So, how do I appropriately rescind from for profit and say don't call me back ever? Space Whale fucked around with this message at 22:56 on May 9, 2018 |
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May 9, 2018 22:54
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Space Whale posted:So, how do I appropriately rescind from for profit and say don't call me back ever?
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May 9, 2018 22:59
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Say you took a better offer from a nonprofit
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May 9, 2018 23:00
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FMguru posted:call them up, say you have a few more questions about benefits, ask if the medical plan covers bofa I did, they said it would be a few days maybe  WTF is BOFA? PokeJoe posted:Say you took a better offer from a nonprofit I'm definitely saying "decision final do not contact me". Already blocked their #s. Gonna email, lol. Holy poo poo what a loving joke. 85K?!?!?!
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May 9, 2018 23:04
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I mean I'm loving exhausted after flying two days in a loving row and taking the wrong trains in DC at least as many times - am I off base here or are they redflagging like a loving semaphore flag-person here?
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May 9, 2018 23:06
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Space Whale posted:D.C. job basically said "you're great but we want recent experience with the problem we made for ourselves, thanks for flying out and then back the next day and all." OK fair enough. They got me lunch and I got to see D.C. even 105k is extremely lowball for a senior dev in D.C.
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May 9, 2018 23:06
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Space Whale posted:WTF is BOFA?
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May 9, 2018 23:07
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GenJoe posted:even 105k is extremely lowball for a senior dev in D.C. That's lowball for Canada
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May 9, 2018 23:09
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May 9, 2018 23:10
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GenJoe posted:even 105k is extremely lowball for a senior dev in D.C. ok no, hold up, I'm in Denver. I flew to DC for a job in DC that passed. Sorry. still
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May 9, 2018 23:10
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qhat posted:Post to invalidate forums cache gently caress that cache also the DC job basically can't shard a db and thinks they need dynamoDB to do it. w/e not my monkey or circus
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May 9, 2018 23:13
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Space Whale posted:gently caress that cache What kind of scale are they dealing with? I'd be more concerned if they just arbitrarily decided they need to horizontally partition their data because they have no idea what they're doing.
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May 9, 2018 23:18
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FMguru posted:bofa DEEEEZ NUTTTTZ 
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May 9, 2018 23:22
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qhat posted:What kind of scale are they dealing with? I'd be more concerned if they just arbitrarily decided they need to horizontally partition their data because they have no idea what they're doing. Apparently they cannot make indexed views that basically expose a denormalized representation of all the poo poo from the MLSes and crap and make it actually run fast on one DB server with a lot of SSDs. In the interview they never mentioned sharding or running multiple DBs on the same server, one per drive, or anything really. welp.
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May 9, 2018 23:24
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quote:Gabe, Is this fuckyou enough? Or should I make a point that trying to lowball me is loving retarded?
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May 9, 2018 23:30
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they can read between the lines
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May 9, 2018 23:33
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Not telling benefits is a hard pass and I would tell them as such. What kind of company hides part of it's compensation from potential hires? One with bad compensation, that's who.
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May 9, 2018 23:34
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hobbesmaster posted:they can read between the lines Oh no doubt. But how do I maximize the butthurt of "don't loving come out of the gate with a mid level salary when I'm senior, and I expressed explicitly that I want to find a place that I want to STAY at"?
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May 9, 2018 23:35
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i’d probably send a polite but firm thanks, pass because there’s nothing to be gained by burning them but that’s just me 
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May 9, 2018 23:37
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jony neuemonic posted:i’d probably send a polite but firm thanks, pass because there’s nothing to be gained by burning them but that’s just me True, but what is there to gain from actually ever working with places that manage and hire that way?
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May 9, 2018 23:38
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the hiring manager might be at a company that won’t cheap out at some point
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hobbesmaster posted:the hiring manager might be at a company that won’t cheap out at some point Perhaps, but wouldn't he also know if he gave me a bad offer I should, uh, not take it, because I'm not a fool, and he knows he gave me a bad deal?  Also I'm planning on getting about a thousand miles away (san diego) soon as I can. But yes, you are right. quote:Gabe, that ok?
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