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I really feel weird about voting for a Doctor, although he could easily be the role blocker and covering his tracks. It does make sense that a Doc would want to protect me. Ugh this makes it all the harder for me right now.
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BottleKnight posted:Moat has posted more today but it has still been very jokey and most of the content revolves around throwing his call on IceP (which is not much of a case? to me it reads more as a gut read from his mason IRC) which, hey, is more than we were getting from moat before. Thank you for posting more, moat, but I still think you are a bit magazine letter cutting scumbo!!!! Oh come on Moat just posted reads on the entire game.
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May 10, 2018 02:32
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Podima posted:Anyone still on Moat for not participating after this post should feel bad. Good to have you back, buddy.  i do not agree with this assessment at all podima that quoted post says a lot of nothing to me imo, it's a lot of empty reads
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May 10, 2018 02:33
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Podima posted:I don't like that your reads are very weak at this juncture after three game days. can you apply this exact same logic to the moat post you just said you liked?
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May 10, 2018 02:34
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Moatillata posted:Im the doc Atomic Soda posted:why sal night two? Moatillata posted:I wasn't sure where they would strike next and was kinda hoping they might try to kill him instead of just role block I believe it.
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May 10, 2018 02:34
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IllegallySober posted:Okay, so you're the doc, and you said nothing in mason chat to either of us about it, and nothing in your private chat with me about it- even though you just listed me as your most trusted person left in the game? Well hmm. Moat, please respond to this.
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May 10, 2018 02:35
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Train of thought stuff AS and Pod I had a fever for basically 72 hours you'll have to excuse me for not remembering exactly what my reads were. I almost replaced out on Monday but wanted to play because the other game had fallen through and did not think it was going to linger for so long. I did talk to IS before the deadline last Wednesday, but I had also gone to bed early. I woke up with like 10-15 minutes to go and felt really good so my fever probably broke around then (yay!), so I got up and went to my computer to see if he was around to talk to. I hadn't placed my vote on Bowmore because I didn't strongly feel that he was scum and didn't want to put him closer to a hammer, and I figured enough people would be around if needed. When I caught up and saw the situation, I started to talk to Sober. I ultimately didn't end up voting because our Masonry does not allow us to talk to each other at night, so I wanted to wait as long as possible before hammering, and then there was a double hammer as I went to vote. The day I went for Yami my top scum read after him was probably Moat, even though I did not want to admit that to myself at the time. Moat's claim doesn't really change anything for me. This post IllegallySober posted:Okay, so you're the doc, and you said nothing in mason chat to either of us about it, and nothing in your private chat with me about it- even though you just listed me as your most trusted person left in the game? Podima posted:It's worth noting that Keane didn't flip as a mason, so we can't be sure that Bowmore/TNL weren't in masonries unless people come forward. Yami also didn't flip as a mason, FWIW. I'll look through some more but the thread is moving now so I want to get at least this part out there.
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May 10, 2018 02:36
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Podima posted:Oh come on Moat just posted reads on the entire game. those reads are p. easily faked and wishy-washy. you know, that thing you accused me of the other day? i thanked moat for posting more today, because he did and it was a lot better! but i still think he's scum, sorry. i think the doc is a fakeclaim.
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May 10, 2018 02:36
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Podima posted:I don't like that your reads are very weak at this juncture after three game days. Moat had the second most votes both of the previous days
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May 10, 2018 02:39
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BottleKnight posted:can you apply this exact same logic to the moat post you just said you liked? Point one in favor for Moat's post - he lists the entire game with at least some semblance of constructed thought. (though I'm now hmm-ing at Sober being towniest but he never dropped hints, that's still not enough to get me to vote a claimed doc without a counterclaim) Moat has commented on ASoda's posts before this list. The read on you is a bit of a stretch, read on Max/Gene makes sense from a setup-speccy perspective. AA and Sal reads mostly make sense, though I'm not as sold as he is on AA. Like, I think this is a perfectly reasonable post, especially from Moat who has been getting poo poo on for not posting reads, and I'm unclear on why you're acting like it's such garbage.
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May 10, 2018 02:44
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IcePhoenix posted:I ultimately didn't end up voting because our Masonry does not allow us to talk to each other at night BK/AS, is this true of yours too?
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May 10, 2018 02:46
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Podima posted:Point one in favor for Moat's post - he lists the entire game with at least some semblance of constructed thought. (though I'm now hmm-ing at Sober being towniest but he never dropped hints, that's still not enough to get me to vote a claimed doc without a counterclaim) It's not garbage! It's just easily faked. It's unconvincing to me.
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May 10, 2018 02:46
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Podima posted:BK/AS, is this true of yours too? yes
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May 10, 2018 02:46
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Podima posted:BK/AS, is this true of yours too? we can't talk at night, no
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May 10, 2018 02:48
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IcePhoenix posted:The flavor Yami quoted from their post as the reasoning for being a miller is suuuper similar to mine and I'm not a miller so I've been wary since the claim, I just didn't say anything before because I wanted to see more of his posting first. Going back to this - at the time you made this post, had you discussed in the masonry and found out that you three had what sounded like similar flavor?
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May 10, 2018 02:48
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OK thanks, same. Wanted to make sure there wasn't an inconsistency between masonries.
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May 10, 2018 02:52
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IcePhoenix posted:Moat had the second most votes both of the previous days please don't answer for other people when i want to see if they have a legitimate answer for me! 
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May 10, 2018 02:53
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Podima posted:Going back to this - at the time you made this post, had you discussed in the masonry and found out that you three had what sounded like similar flavor? I discussed my thoughts on Yami's claim and my reasoning in Mason chat, IS and Moat told me that their flavors supported what I was thinking.
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May 10, 2018 02:55
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IcePhoenix posted:I discussed my thoughts on Yami's claim and my reasoning in Mason chat, IS and Moat told me that their flavors supported what I was thinking. interesting is this true guys? how does your flavour support this moat?
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May 10, 2018 02:58
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IllegallySober posted:Okay, so you're the doc, and you said nothing in mason chat to either of us about it, and nothing in your private chat with me about it- even though you just listed me as your most trusted person left in the game? Yes my plan was to never tell anyone that I was a doc because it is a bad move even if you're on the better end of the continuum you're still not mod confirmed Why is this shocking to you? Also, for the d1 deadline I was busy and completely missed it. I was hanging out with friends doing non mafia things. Hence why I didnt respond until waay later in the night and you may have noticed i was in a bit of a state.
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May 10, 2018 03:04
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Podima posted:Anyone still on Moat for not participating after this post should feel bad. Good to have you back, buddy. 
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May 10, 2018 03:07
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Moatillata posted:Yes my plan was to never tell anyone that I was a doc because it is a bad move even if you're on the better end of the continuum you're still not mod confirmed Ya I don't get why it's unreasonable for a Doctor to claim.
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May 10, 2018 03:12
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SalTheBard posted:Ya I don't get why it's unreasonable for a Doctor to claim. Because unless you can self protect then mafia is just gonna murder you immediately, they extremely hard to try to get the doc to claim
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i don't think moat not claiming in mason chat is indicative of scum, his town read on sober was relatively recent also.
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May 10, 2018 03:18
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##vote IcePhoenix I'm not voting for Moat. I would also vote for Slamburger for the audacity of replacing in and not coming into the thread at all, and anyways a Day 3 replacement is lovely for a game this size when Asiina was lurking for the previous two game days.
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May 10, 2018 03:18
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Podima posted:##vote IcePhoenix You think ice is the best vote?
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May 10, 2018 03:22
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I gotta say pod I appreciate the support but it's kinda freaking me out
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May 10, 2018 03:23
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Atomic Soda posted:interesting is this true guys? how does your flavour support this moat? hey moat can you answer this? sorry if i missed it earlier.
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May 10, 2018 03:24
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Podima posted:##vote IcePhoenix asiina was gonna be my vote until i saw the replacement but idk i'm willing to at least give slamburger a chance? the circumstances are def lovely tho.
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May 10, 2018 03:25
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Atomic Soda posted:interesting is this true guys? how does your flavour support this moat? It wasn't specifically for my flavor I was just commenting on the fact that we all came from far away to the academy so is weird to have an outsider be Miller when we all are
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May 10, 2018 03:27
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Ice's push on you is self-admittedly omgus and all he's done is go for Yami yesterday building from a flavor justification (which he checked with you two on first yes, but that could also be viewed as a quiet safety check before putting it out in the thread). He tried to draw a connection between Yami and Asiina but it's very tenuous. It's also still notable that Keane was pushing back on the flavor thing with Ice yesterday, and died last night. Plus there's what I pointed out earlier about how he tried to draw IS into the tiff between you and him - it's in my posts from earlier today. Nobody else is pinging me quite as much as he is right now, and I really don't like that he hasn't re-evaluated in the light of your doc counterclaim - instead, he's just pushing harder. (Others are guilty of this too, but it's another thing on the pile.)
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Also more pertinently it's 30 minutes to deadline and this game is not a bastion of high participation. The Current Day 3 Votecount   Moatillata (4): GeneX, Anomalous Amalgam, IcePhoenix, -Anomalous Amalgam, Monathin, BottleKnight, -BottleKnight, IllegallySober IcePhoenix (3): Moatillata, Atomic Soda, Podima Not Voting (4): Anomalous Amalgam, BottleKnight, SalTheBard, Slamburger With 11 players alive, it takes 6 votes to be executed.  The current deadline is May 09th, 2018 at 11 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 31 minutes from this post.:]
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Sorry, I've been a bit busier than expected and allowed myself too much foil. In foil I believe that there is a strong possibility as moat for a scum and possibly also sal. In my best attempt at normal I'd rank Scum to town IP or Moat: both are scummy, gut says moat over ip but I've been known to tunnel Feels about BK. Really don't like how they have shown up today. I trust Pod mostly. Back in just a few minutes. Sorry for hottakes but close to deadline.
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That tracks. Cool, thanks.
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i'm probably not moving sal you still around? Anomalous Amalgam posted:Sorry, I've been a bit busier than expected and allowed myself too much foil. i have feels about bk also but he did say in mason chat he was busy w deadlines.
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Podima posted:and I really don't like that he hasn't re-evaluated in the light of your doc counterclaim - instead, he's just pushing harder. (Others are guilty of this too, but it's another thing on the pile.) I'm having trouble parsing this. You don't like that I'm not backing off because I don't believe him?
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May 10, 2018 03:38
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I am really surprised that there's this many people willing to buy Moat's claim. But I guess I was also surprised there were this many willing to buy Sal's cop claim, too. I really don't feel the IP vote over Moat. Can someone tell me why Moat's not looking guilty instead of why IP is? I'm not dead-set against switching but I'm not yet convinced.
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May 10, 2018 03:40
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Be back in 5-10 minutes, but I should be back.
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IllegallySober posted:Be back in 5-10 minutes, but I should be back. cool wouldn't mind your assessment of Moatillata posted:It wasn't specifically for my flavor I was just commenting on the fact that we all came from far away to the academy so is weird to have an outsider be Miller when we all are re: what icephoenix mentioned, if there is time
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