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I imported a save where I forged the Blade of the Endless paths and had the Whispers of Yenwood and when I checked in the ship's Captain quarters I had the fragments of both. I didn't save the crate during the tutorial. I think any problems are down to using the world-state generator.
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The import problems are making me paranoid, the game has callbacks to POE1 all over the place but I keep thinking "did that actually happen or is the game loving with me?"
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May 10, 2018 16:02
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Can any of the factions even be considered good? Also druid monks - can they get ranged claw attacks with the long pain upgrade?
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May 10, 2018 16:02
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Also, seems a little dumb so far that Maneha doesn't have an actual conversation tree in my game!
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May 10, 2018 16:02
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bewilderment posted:Are the Rauataians racists as well as imperialist? The current Rauataian regime is explicitly driven by a traditionalist faction that believes in Aumaua supremacy, and specifically Rauatai Aumaua.
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May 10, 2018 16:03
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bewilderment posted:Are the Rauataians racists as well as imperialist? They're just kind of arrogant and dismissive of foreign ideas from what I've seen so far. Haven't seen an explicit racial component. E: well poo poo maybe there is.
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May 10, 2018 16:04
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Can created hirelings work on the ship? I know in the original game you could send them in adventures once you had a full party and didn't need them any more, but this game doesn't have adventures so I'm assuming party members who aren't in your party just hang about?
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May 10, 2018 16:06
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It’s not like, all people from Rauatai, but the people in power are very much Not Like Kana. Even Maia talks about how because her parents were Huana the Aumaua aristocrats unironically thought she had a tail. And would look for it at parties. They are SUPER racist. Maia is however “one of the good ones” so she buys into the system.
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May 10, 2018 16:08
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Going to go back to poe1 before the import thing is fixed. I did the main quest and beat the game, then when the DLCs came out I went back to a save before I finished the game to do the DLCs, and then never finished the main with that save, so the one I can import is technically incomplete.
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May 10, 2018 16:10
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Captain Oblivious posted:It’s not like, all people from Rauatai, but the people in power are very much Not Like Kana. Hahaha that's hilarious and depressingly realistic I hadn't quite put together that there was Aumaua racism against Huana, they all look alike to me!
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May 10, 2018 16:11
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I mean, in my playthrough Kana went back to become a conservative demagogue because I ribbed him for getting worked up over a broken tablet, so maybe being high strung is a common trait.
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May 10, 2018 16:12
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Hahaha that's hilarious and depressingly realistic Conversely, while the Vailians practice slavery they do not seem to practice industrialized chattel slavery...yet. That’s the kind of thing that produces a racial ideology by necessity, even if they lack one now. Assuming they go that route anyway, Eora is not a carbon copy of real history. On the balance though, I’m leaning towards the Vailians or the Huana. I don’t really see the point of siding with the Principi.
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Captain Oblivious posted:I don’t really see the point of siding with the Principi. Are they the "burn it all down" faction essentially, maybe? I haven't progressed the main story all that far.
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May 10, 2018 16:16
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Oh, speaking of planning for future runs: Blunderbuss: The kitchen sink in Old City, after you have both conches and open the door after the giant grub gives a reload speed bonus that I think is bugged to work with your other weapon, which for me is the blunderbuss that Serafen came with. If it's intended to work with the reload speed, then great! Greatsword: Whispers of the Endless Paths is a, uh, great Greatsword. Pallegina cleaves through garbage mobs with it (gently caress you grubs and Xaurips). I also found both fragments on The Defiant in the captain's cabin, along with (mild reactivity spoiler) a note from the lady in Gilded Vale whose sister died in the biawac at the beginning of POE1. I did not save the crate with the crit gloves and imported my save. Has anyone seen any of the reactivity from the adra and sky dragons? Those are the choices that I'm most interested in. Also, can you actually influence any of your companions later in the game? Like can you have Pallegina chill out on her god hate?
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Are they the "burn it all down" faction essentially, maybe? They're the "piracy is fun, we should lean into that" faction.
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Captain Oblivious posted:The current Rauataian regime is explicitly driven by a traditionalist faction that believes in Aumaua supremacy, and specifically Rauatai Aumaua. The political scene seems to be Caste System poo poo heads vs Imperialist Assholes vs Murder and Pillage Pirates. All the factions seem to be various levels of assholes.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Are they the "burn it all down" faction essentially, maybe? Not quite? They’re anarcho-communist pirates as far as I can tell. I haven’t delved too far into them just yet
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May 10, 2018 16:19
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lmao carnage works in shifter form, on the very first battle of the game, turned into a bear and gibbed the poo poo out of 2 pirates and hit all my allies as a bearzerker. game owns.
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May 10, 2018 16:20
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Oh, speaking of planning for future runs: There's a good club for sale in Port Maje!
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May 10, 2018 16:21
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Does each character still have one sidequest and when you're done you can comfortably leave them out? Asking about Eder specifically here.
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May 10, 2018 16:24
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Xae posted:The political scene seems to be Caste System poo poo heads vs Imperialist Assholes vs Murder and Pillage Pirates. Hey, there are two flavors of imperialist assholes! There are also the Dawnstars, who seem pretty cool and good but don't have quite the same power as any of the above. Also I realized that Maia is voiced by the same person who did Laura in Trails of Cold Steel, which is why she was so familiar and why she's also the best and canon waifu.
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So I bailed on my Shattered Pillar Monk run due to being confused about how certain weapon buffs work with unarmed. Stupidly picked Kind Wayfarer Paladin without thinking through the fact that this is the perfect game to play a chaotic evil pirate character so now I have to reroll yet again  Considering Barbarian who dual-wields sabres or a chanter with a big gently caress-off rifle as kind of a captain-type theme.
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May 10, 2018 16:28
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How does sharing skills between the party work, exactly? I'm not really sure what the best method for distributing these skill points is.
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Eggnogium posted:So I bailed on my Shattered Pillar Monk run due to being confused about how certain weapon buffs work with unarmed. Stupidly picked Kind Wayfarer Paladin without thinking through the fact that this is the perfect game to play a chaotic evil pirate character so now I have to reroll yet again There's a fantastic sabre for a Skald, who's kind of like a barbarian chanter, in Neketaka. It's so good that I kind of want to build a character around it.
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I picked this up having not fully completed POE1 (though i did play a fair amount of it), and the refresher guide in the OP was very helpful in being able to set up a backstory without having to necessarily go back and finish the game. That said, I find myself somewhat paralyzed with indecision about how I want to build out my player character in this one. Monks in the first one felt a little janky to use (for me personally), are they better in this? I know the subclasses and extra dev time seem to have cleaned up a lot of stuff I found a little "off" in POE1. The other thing I was considering was a big two-handed weapon specialist, and Devoted subclass of Fighter sounded like it might be good but then I read the tradeoffs and it sounds like I could very easily ruin my character by not picking the right weapon class at the start, plus the whole "Oh I found a great Estoc! Too bad I'm a Great Sword Devoted" risk. Would I be better off just going plain Fighter? Or even Barbarian? Barbarian kind of spooked me away based on their passive being a cleave but standing in the middle of a bunch of targets to cleave sounding like a bad idea in my head, especially when you're eating defensive penalties for raging (and doing Friend or Foe damage plus not being able to see your health if I go Berserker, but I love me some Berserkers...). Is two-handed-weapon Berserker more viable than it seems on paper for a regular Classic difficulty run? Sorry for the undoubtedly retard-level questions, but while I've always enjoyed games like this back to the old Infinity engine games, I've never claimed to be any good at them. 
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I am so glad that with the exception of Eder I got all the members of my planned party as the 3 first characters I got. And honestly I don't even know who the 5th will be anyway.
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Vargs posted:How does sharing skills between the party work, exactly? I'm not really sure what the best method for distributing these skill points is. We may want to add this to the OP but before that happens maybe someone recheck these values and see if they've changed or not: From some data mining of the beta code that people did upthread (apparently max trap perception and max trap mechanics are moddable values) The max perception you apparently need to catch all traps is 19. the max Mechanics you need to disarm the best trap appears to be 12. The "party assist" thresholds (i.e., the minimum number of points you need in the rest of the party to get an additional bonus point in your own skill check) are 4, 7, 11, 16, and 22 for , (I think?) +2, +3, +4, +5, and +6 respectively. Note that that's total points in the rest of the party, not total points in the whole party -- the person making the check doesn't count to that total.
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GrandpaPants posted:There's some weird quest breaking if you go straight into the Old City from the slums. I started exploring and found an elf that was also exploring, but she had assumed that I already knew who she was and that I was there on behalf of Dereo, which I wasn't. I have no idea what this quest line even is, although I assume it has to do with the Conch. My quests broke even more thoroughly and I don't know what to do here. I got a message to meet Dereo and got instructions to go to Delver's row, but didn't do either before going into the Old City. Then, the lift left, so I left via the temple. Then, I walk into the Undercroft and everyone's hostile, so i sneak past them.. into Delver's Row, which is also hostile and also totally impossible to sneak past. I'm trapped into killing /everyone/. I was gunna be a saintly goody two shoes type that was gunna use the dawnstars to feed the city instead of the smugglers, but I feel like this might have bad side effects. Any ideas how to get past this or should i load an autosave from hours ago.
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This game has some Unity rear end problems between memory leaks that build up and never garbage collect and like 3 different bugs I've had happen on trying to start it up.
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This thread has talked me into restarting as a full class Drug Monk. I wasn't feeling shattered pillar anyways. Has anyone else tried the default setting "Everything Bad"? Because it isn't joking around. I might do this playthrough on story mode just to see how insanely bad everything gets, but it's real bad you guys. I was kinda hoping it would be in a funny bad way, as if the player was a huge gently caress-up but everyone was willing to look past it while gently mocking your past mistakes. Instead, everyone is just dead forever.
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One really lovely thing about skill sharing is that DISTANCE MATTERS. You have to be pretty close to the person doing the skill (I want to say like 10m?), which is generally the watcher, but not necessarily for the adventure segments. It's kinda weird and I wish the radius was larger/nonexistent.Wolpertinger posted:My quests broke even more thoroughly and I don't know what to do here. Yeah, it's kinda poo poo, however "realistic" it is to accidentally stumble into a smuggling operation and have to murder your way through it. Some direction could have been better here. I'd recommend putting a warning in the OP about this unless they change the quest structure later. Basically just do not go down the lift into the Old City. It breaks a whole lot of quests.
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GrandpaPants posted:One really lovely thing about skill sharing is that DISTANCE MATTERS. You have to be pretty close to the person doing the skill (I want to say like 10m?), which is generally the watcher, but not necessarily for the adventure segments. It's kinda weird and I wish the radius was larger/nonexistent. Yeah this means you want stealth and sleight of hand on the same person (I'm using aloth for this).
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Hahaha that's hilarious and depressingly realistic Speaking of which, is it just the new portrait style or do the Aumaua genuinely look different in POE2? I remember Kana and Maneha being a bit more visibly "sharky" than all the Huana or other Aumaua in this game (but then again I haven't bothered zooming into the models in any great detail.) That said I'm loving the setup here, fantasy narratives with factions playing off each other and even NPCs playing off each other are Extremely My poo poo. I didn't really HATE POE1's story like some people did but there was so much less to attach to than there is here. The import shenanigans are putting a damper on things (especially since even making save states is buggy, like how Skaen thinks I mindwiped Aelys when I really just gutted her dad like a fish) thing and a few others) but even then I'm happy just exploring things without getting too deep into plotlines, and farming enough easy achievements so I can start my canon playthroughs with less thematically depressing stat/skill lines when the hotfix drops. Speaking of which, is there a vendor out there that sells a lot of Pyrite? The gem vendor in Serpent's Crown only has one but I need four more to grab the Enchanter achievement, which is like the second-last one that I need. edit: thanks rope kid https://twitter.com/jesawyer/status/994570673883246592 Dallan Invictus fucked around with this message at 16:51 on May 10, 2018 |
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Zaodai posted:I picked this up having not fully completed POE1 (though i did play a fair amount of it), and the refresher guide in the OP was very helpful in being able to set up a backstory without having to necessarily go back and finish the game. If you want to go Devoted and are worried about which weapon to choose, someone datamined the game and found that the two melee weapon types with the most uniques were great swords and sabers.
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I love that the quickest ending you can get you are reincarnated as a mouse or something, roll credits
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Zaodai posted:I picked this up having not fully completed POE1 (though i did play a fair amount of it), and the refresher guide in the OP was very helpful in being able to set up a backstory without having to necessarily go back and finish the game. Berserkers were one of the strongest options available in the beta. You can easily cancel their Confusion (which is an Intellect Affliction) with an Intellect Inspiration or by getting immunity to the Affliction. Leveling Alchemy, which is a skill determining how good you are at doing drugs, and keeping a stash of Svef around was the easiest way of doing that in the beta. Not sure if Svef got changed for the release version, though. Devoted are also just plain good. Take a weapon with dual damage type and a way of overcoming Penetration issues to be on the safe side. Actually, just take swords. Without spoiling anything, the game really seems to want the main character to dual-wield swords forever.
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It seems Pallegina's quest isn't triggering properly when you're supposed to go to Dunnage. I've scoured that town 3 times already and there's no sign of the guy we're supposed to find?
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Wolpertinger posted:My quests broke even more thoroughly and I don't know what to do here. I did that yesterday, and I only had to kill the group guarding the lift. It put me at Bad (-2) reputation with the criminal faction of the gullet, but no one else became hostile, and I was able to talk to Dereo and the captain lady in the grotto just fine. There were no negative consequences besides a 10% shop penalty, and after doing a couple quests in the area my reputation ended up positive overall.
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Is anyone else not getting difficulty indicators? I have them switched on in the options, but haven't seen a single one the ~15 hours I've played so far. I watched enough of Cohh's stream to have seen them, and I've definitely fought stuff way out of my league...
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Wizard Styles posted:Monks haven't really changed much at all. Most of the classes haven't, although there are some subclasses that mix things up a lot. Druids, Wizards and Priests no longer have spell slots per rest but per encounter. Rogues got more abilities that can turn them invisible. Thanks for the advice. Most everything I've read about Barbarians in general suggest they're built almost exclusively around attack speed and thus should only be dual wielding. Hopefully going two-handers isn't too much of a downgrade, but I'm not really out to min-max super hard anyway. I'll give one a shot tonight after work, I guess worst case scenario I just end up re-rolling again.
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