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Bluedeanie posted:I fully agree that fighters should not jocky for fights based on rankings, but Dana White also has the power to deincintivize that by removing the weird lovely Reebok sponsorship structure that effectively makes fast tracking yourself to a title the only way to get paid without taking a zillion fights a year. lol what
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Memento posted:Brazil continues to be a Quality Destination Max Payne 3 was a documentary
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Ah I'm now hearing reports that the UFC officials were NOT held up by residents but by what has been identified as "A pale man with three haircuts and 500 tattoos" and he didn't have a gun but a backpack filled with cans of some kind of energy drink. UFC officials are in good health and the situation will likely not escalate beyond this as local police have said that they will do "fooking nothing."
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Triticum Guzzler posted:lol immediately walking to a buffet after blowing weight is better than the time kevin lee jubilantly pointed to the sky then slinked off dejected with his rear end showing when he didn't hit championship weight TheRationalRedditor fucked around with this message at 18:43 on May 11, 2018 |
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Matt Lindland posted:Hell if you cut that guy he'd be able to fit in backpack Then I could carry him around on my back and he could teach me how to use the force. 
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Soothing Vapors posted:from the replies on that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8XTpCwicwE
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Why the sweet Jesus isn't she at 125? With her build it just makes sense, I think?
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Captain Log posted:Why the sweet Jesus isn't she at 125? With her build it just makes sense, I think? Her build? She likes tacos. She's 5'3" it's not like she's massive for 115.
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May 12, 2018 02:39
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Why doesn't she try the burger but no fries?
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Sorry this lady is too fat for you I guess.
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Dern got told to leave MMA Lab by the coach because she (in her own words) preferred going to the beach over training more. she's not super serious about this whole thing
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Aye Doc posted:Dern got told to leave MMA Lab by the coach because she (in her own words) preferred going to the beach over training more. she's not super serious about this whole thing This makes sense considering her debut really had the feel of someone scraping by someone they should be outclassing.
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Radical 90s Wizard posted:Why doesn't she try the burger but no fries? im sorry sir but this is america?
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handsome only face posted:vitor spent his open workout playing with his service dog. very vitor vitor showed up at weigh ins and faced off in pyjamas, slippers and a dressing gown. old rear end
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mike perry is now legally allowed to say the n-word after discovering he is 2% african https://twitter.com/jnsanchez/status/995123236588478466
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LobsterMobster posted:mike perry is now legally allowed to say the n-word after discovering he is 2% african That man is impressively stupid. JaySB posted:Her build? She likes tacos. She's 5'3" it's not like she's massive for 115. I don't know enough about weight cutting in women to know what is and isn't reasonable, to be honest. But she is a thick lady.
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May 12, 2018 04:02
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congratulations to mike perry for winning his hood pass
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https://twitter.com/jon_bois/status/994977945524555777
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UFC photographer (is actually the doorman's mom working "freelance") "Okay Tito, we need to take your picture for a tale of the tape graphic for our broadcast. Can you give us a mean looking face that shows how tough you are?" What Tito hears: "Okay Tito, try to give us the most lost and vacant stare possible. Almost like you failed the 5th grade for the 3rd time, and are somehow proud of it" 10 min later UFC photographer "Okay Wes, we need you to give us your meanest face for a tale of the tape graphic" What Wes hears: "Okay Wes, we want your saddest face - like you got a puppy for Christmas, but Santa forgot to put breathing holes in the box. The more lip exposed in your pout, the better"
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As-Salaam Alaikum, Mike Perry. Cooper is now advertising her fight with Dern as the first 'Strawweight vs. Flyweight' fight, which is pretty funny.
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Dan Didio posted:As-Salaam Alaikum, Mike Perry. Good. Beat up that fatty with the totally fake accent Cooper!
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Soothing Vapors posted:from the replies on that: https://twitter.com/xdannyxbrownx/status/995017350276681729
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wanna watch a card with danny brown
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So I just watched this fight and it is the only time in MMA I have seen the corner literally throw in the towel
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Brown Paper Bag posted:So I just watched this fight and it is the only time in MMA I have seen the corner literally throw in the towel Nick threw a towel into the octagon during Nate vs Josh Thompson.
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LobsterMobster posted:mike perry is now legally allowed to say the n-word after discovering he is 2% african Bless him
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spb posted:Bless him
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Auron posted:lol what A lot of people talk about the frequency of UFC events for watering down the quality of matchmaking and Conor McGregor for everyone trying to emulate him and talk their way into unwarranted money fights. Those things absolutely cause that to an extent but I think the reebok deal causes a lot of it too and gets glossed over. Back when most of us started fighting you would see the number 6 guy agree to fight the number 12 guy or whatever sherdog had them ranked at fairly frequently, like you could reliably see a few of those level of fights per ppv main card across weight classes, and I think a big part of their willingness to do that was even if they were on like a 25/25 contract they were gonna get 50-75k flat from having condom depot or bony acai or angry brazilian eyes on their rear end so that fight made financial sense regardless and neither of them was realistically knocking on a title shot anyway so there was little ground to lose in regards to career trajectory for either guy. Now the only sponsorhsip money they can make is this tiered reebok poo poo based on if they have had 700 ufc fights or are the champion, and since most fighters are not Donald Cerrone they don't make poo poo and the best financial thing they can do for themselves is angle for title shots constantly or get big money fights. So now a bunch of guys have mediocre contracts they probably negotiated under the assumption those sweet dynamic fastener checks would keep coming in and now instead get a flat cap of like $3000 in mandatory sponsorship money. In a different sponsorship structure we might not have Colby Covington trying to be a heal so hard he tweets about how Thanos gets off the plane and goes back to Ross and we almost definitely wouldn't have Yair Rodriguez getting cut off of one loss because he postured and tried to get a higher ranked but easier fight, and both of those things suck rear end for ~we the viewers~ and yet both of those things are weirdly incentivized currently. Anyway finally got caught up on the card I wont be able to see tonight, lmao Dern.
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Bluedeanie posted:A lot of people talk about the frequency of UFC events for watering down the quality of matchmaking and Conor McGregor for everyone trying to emulate him and talk their way into unwarranted money fights. Those things absolutely cause that to an extent but I think the reebok deal causes a lot of it too and gets glossed over. Back when most of us started fighting you would see the number 6 guy agree to fight the number 12 guy or whatever sherdog had them ranked at fairly frequently, like you could reliably see a few of those level of fights per ppv main card across weight classes, and I think a big part of their willingness to do that was even if they were on like a 25/25 contract they were gonna get 50-75k flat from having condom depot or bony acai or angry brazilian eyes on their rear end so that fight made financial sense regardless and neither of them was realistically knocking on a title shot anyway so there was little ground to lose in regards to career trajectory for either guy. Now the only sponsorhsip money they can make is this tiered reebok poo poo based on if they have had 700 ufc fights or are the champion, and since most fighters are not Donald Cerrone they don't make poo poo and the best financial thing they can do for themselves is angle for title shots constantly or get big money fights. I doubt many people are still on contracts negotiated before the reebok deal
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Yeah, the Reebok deal was like five years ago. The money fight nonsense isjust a combat sports thing. Don't know what you do about it other than cutting the ones who won't fight, though
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I mean shouldn't the one basic rule above all else of being a professional fighter be... that you fight when you're given a fight? I mean sure there are obvious ones like don't do drugs, don't get arrested and follow the rules inside the octagon but at a very base level ducking anyone shouldn't be allowed to be a thing. Edit: Like I get what guys are doing by ducking and poo poo but if they don't want to fight whoever is put in front of them, cut them Orange Carlisle fucked around with this message at 17:59 on May 12, 2018 |
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I am convinced one of the biggest negative impacts of the Reebok deal is making everyone look the same. Pre-deal guys have this huge persistent branding advantage that comes from in part stupid stuff like "this guy wears big red shorts" and gets their name remembered. New fighters need to go above and beyond to stand out as individuals. The UFC I think chose this approach in part to anonymize fighters and make them the brand rather than the fighters and it's worked too well. Similar but smaller scale, the UFC moving their promo apparatus to shows about Dana white and less hyping of countdown shows about the fighters. The core effort is to make the fighters interchangeable and the management stars. Best Friends fucked around with this message at 18:57 on May 12, 2018 |
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Best Friends posted:I am convinced one of the biggest negative impacts of the Reebok deal is making everyone look the same. Pre-deal guys have this huge persistent branding advantage that comes from in part stupid stuff like "this guy wears big red shorts" and gets their name remembered. New fighters need to go above and beyond to stand out as individuals. The UFC I think chose this approach in part to anonymize fighters and make them the brand rather than the fighters and it's worked too well. UFC had this perfect storm of a TV format that was extremely popular (reality tv gameshow) and dozens of really fascinating idiots who wore shorts with CONDOM DEPOT on their asses, and they've managed to squander all of that away for the opportunity to pay everybody less money in exchange for completely gutting their brand lol
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Mr. Carlisle posted:I mean shouldn't the one basic rule above all else of being a professional fighter be... that you fight when you're given a fight? I mean sure there are obvious ones like don't do drugs, don't get arrested and follow the rules inside the octagon but at a very base level ducking anyone shouldn't be allowed to be a thing. I think people should be able to not fight if they dont want to. They just wont get paid. Its on the ufc to make interesting matches and to convince fighters to take good fights, and the best way to do that is by paying them money
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Well I mean if youre going to have an excuse thats a pretty good one
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david carmichael posted:I think people should be able to not fight if they dont want to. They just wont get paid. Its on the ufc to make interesting matches and to convince fighters to take good fights, and the best way to do that is by paying them money American companies don't work like this anymore and I'd appreciate you not spewing canadiocentric rhetoric all over the fight thread. Thanks.
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Where can I go to waterboard Tim Kennedy? I'm willing to conduct the experiment for far, far more than 45 minutes.
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