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Kudaros posted:I already got the PhD, which is ML relevant. I've got my eye on waiting around for a tenure track at my preferred university or my backup plan of retiring at ~45 or less. There's also some national labs with positions that use ML as a tool for difficult problems I'm interested in. I am employed now though. I have not seen very many jobs with that kind of salary on offer up front. I'd like to move somewhere for a little while and come back but between this high salary, low cost of living, and strong social support network its real tough to justify.
Kudaros posted:Maybe I just don't know the right people or how to look. Are glassdoor estimates *that* much of a lowball? glassdoor is full of complainers thinking about leaving their job, so it skews low you are also probably looking at the wrong job titles. anything that mentions machine learning in the title is probably an ETL job, and ETL developers are cheap
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how would you answer the question "so why are you looking to relocate here?" i usually just say something about being familiar with the area and wanting to leave my current location but today i had a recruiter tell me "well, thats a pretty bad reason and you know if you move forward you will need a better, more specific reason to tell the hiring manager." i ended the call shortly after that. is what i've been saying so bad? i mean, i'm looking to get out of a super toxic environment but saying that feels too personal for an initial HR screen.
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May 11, 2018 19:48
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Shaman Linavi posted:how would you answer the question "so why are you looking to relocate here?" i usually just say something about being familiar with the area and wanting to leave my current location but today i had a recruiter tell me "well, thats a pretty bad reason and you know if you move forward you will need a better, more specific reason to tell the hiring manager." i ended the call shortly after that. what a bizarre question for them to get hung up on. if you’re moving there anyway how is “seems cool there” not good enough?
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May 11, 2018 19:50
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just say you have family there--tell them whatever they need to hear so you can get through to the people that actually do the work
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May 11, 2018 20:03
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Just tell the truth. Something like, "It doesn't matter where I live because I don't go outside."
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May 11, 2018 20:11
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You're willing to pick up your life and move somewhere else, why is it that you chose that particular location over the presumably dozens others other potential places Essentially it's a play on the "so why are you looking for a new job" question
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May 11, 2018 20:12
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:glassdoor is full of complainers thinking about leaving their job, so it skews low theyre really amazingly consistent across all companies and job types
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May 11, 2018 20:12
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Finally got the online assessment from Amazon, apparently the recruiter screwed up some details in the system and it didn't send it the first time. Apparently they have some kind of "personality test" lol. What's all that about? Like, how often I work overtime? How many souls I consume on a daily basis?
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May 11, 2018 20:44
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jony neuemonic posted:what a bizarre question for them to get hung up on. if you’re moving there anyway how is “seems cool there” not good enough? it costs a normal human being many thousands of dollars to move cross-country. people don't do this for no reason employers generally do not want to smell desperation on a candidate
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May 11, 2018 21:56
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Shaman Linavi posted:how would you answer the question "so why are you looking to relocate here?" i usually just say something about being familiar with the area and wanting to leave my current location but today i had a recruiter tell me "well, thats a pretty bad reason and you know if you move forward you will need a better, more specific reason to tell the hiring manager." i ended the call shortly after that. the recruiter gave you good advice and saved you from loving it up during a phone screen. make up a good reason. any reason. just as long as it's plausible. "seems cool there" ain't a plausible reason to spend $10k+ moving across country, unless you are either desperate or stupid, and employers don't want desperate or stupid if you are moving to sf / nyc / whatever, that reason could be a desire to be closer to the center of the action in the industry -- greater opportunities and cooler projects if you are moving to the sticks, well, you better have a reason the sticks sound inordinately appealing. family? university ties? something your spouse is forcing you to do? Shaman Linavi posted:is what i've been saying so bad? i mean, i'm looking to get out of a super toxic environment but saying that feels too personal for an initial HR screen. yeah never, ever let on that your prior job was a toxic environment the stink attaches to you, too
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May 11, 2018 21:58
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Amazon uses their leadership principals to asses current and new employees. http://whartonmagazine.com/blogs/learn-from-amazons-leadership-principles/ The personality test is to see how well you'll fit in. Study up on those and have some specific experiences in the past where you demonstrated those principals.
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May 11, 2018 21:59
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:the recruiter gave you good advice and saved you from loving it up during a phone screen. yeah i think i'll work on my answer to this. interestingly enough, the large companies i'm flying out to for in-persons simply said "hey the job is in location [x], are you willing to relocate there?" and they were fine with me just giving a yes
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May 11, 2018 22:47
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maybe they were wrong for accepting it without grilling you I don’t actually know if that’s true or not
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May 11, 2018 22:57
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:the recruiter gave you good advice and saved you from loving it up during a phone screen. what’s your job like
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May 11, 2018 22:58
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Pollyanna posted:what’s your job like soul-crushingly dull, but generously remunerated also people are nice to me, which is an underrated feature in a workplace
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May 11, 2018 23:02
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i work in Minnesota, I’m pretty sure “nice” in nyc is downright rude here
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May 11, 2018 23:03
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:it costs a normal human being many thousands of dollars to move cross-country. people don't do this for no reason yeah true. i think moving clear across the country because “gently caress it, bored and no jobs around” has probably skewed my perspective on stuff.
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May 11, 2018 23:06
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Janitor Prime posted:Amazon uses their leadership principals to asses current and new employees. http://whartonmagazine.com/blogs/learn-from-amazons-leadership-principles/ It's like an online assessment, presumably multiple choice? I guess I should just say yes to everything that sounds like a leadership principle.
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May 11, 2018 23:09
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hobbesmaster posted:i work in Minnesota, I’m pretty sure “nice” in nyc is downright rude here well, yes and no i don't mean the superficial "minnesota nice." i mean people are not backstabbing, gaslighting assholes trying to ruin my life. which is a pretty good thing to find in the office it is true that nyc is not real big on small talk. but small talk is not the important feature of a nice person.
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May 11, 2018 23:12
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People on the subway in NYC are rude. People in the bar in NYC are extremely friendly.
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May 11, 2018 23:25
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You know what's worse than NYC? London. It's got all the shittiest things about NYC and Vancouver in one place and like none of the best parts.
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May 11, 2018 23:26
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qhat posted:You know what's worse than NYC? London. It's got all the shittiest things about NYC and Vancouver in one place and like none of the best parts. london is less than 1/2 as dense as nyc, and has about 1/2 the population. this has unpleasant knock-on effects for services and transportation
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May 11, 2018 23:33
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London Underground cars have no a/c which is just great
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May 11, 2018 23:35
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:you are also probably looking at the wrong job titles. anything that mentions machine learning in the title is probably an ETL job, and ETL developers are cheap  I'm having trouble coming up with a bigger description mismatch
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May 11, 2018 23:37
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Munkeymon posted:
welcome to job title inflation it's not a mis-match, though. like 90% of the work in any ML group is just slurping data in and out of other sources, because it's never in any convenient format ETL is the bulk of the work, for real even if you land one of those high-dollar jobs that leverages your modeling and statistics expertise, you will still spend an inordinate amount of your time worrying about ETL tasks -- either writing the code yourself or trying to persuade a moron "data science engineer" to do it
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May 11, 2018 23:39
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sounds about right afaict my wife is pursuing a phd in IRBs, proposal writing and ETL python scripts
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May 12, 2018 00:13
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:london is less than 1/2 as dense as nyc, and has about 1/2 the population. It's got like 7 mill people living there so you'd never really notice anyway. It's still unbelievably expensive and the people there aren't friendly. Its only saving grace is that the peasants there mug you with knives instead of guns.
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Joseph J. Lhota said it was the opposite way around in an interview, the lines are far too spread out and income is capped. Google reports London have larger population than NYC so 
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May 12, 2018 01:18
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i just want to live comfortably and be happy is that so loving hard
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May 12, 2018 01:22
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Yes, surprisingly so.
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May 12, 2018 01:23
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Fiedler posted:Yes, surprisingly so.  ngl i'm beginning to wonder what really lies ahead in life and it don't look rosy.
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May 12, 2018 01:24
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qhat posted:You know what's worse than NYC? London. It's got all the shittiest things about NYC and Vancouver in one place and like none of the best parts.
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May 12, 2018 01:26
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Pollyanna posted:
welcome to the entirety of recorded human history. we have democratized mass communications now whereas we didn't really have that even ten years ago. this makes it acutely apparent how fuckawful the world actually is for the first time ever, but with it comes the promise of actual systemic change after the last few decades of stagnation. but yeah things have always been bad. people survived somehow even through the worst of it. live goes on.
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May 12, 2018 01:29
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but yeah i am so loving glad i got out of the uk you have no idea
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May 12, 2018 01:31
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:welcome to job title inflation oh yeah makes sense when you put it that way. I guess there'd at least be some interesting work around the ETL stuff though
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May 12, 2018 01:47
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MrMoo posted:Joseph J. Lhota said it was the opposite way around in an interview, the lines are far too spread out and income is capped. Google reports London have larger population than NYC so compare the metro area populations, not the city limits. london had its city borders expanded to cover most of its suburbs in the 1960s, so the unit of government is a larger fraction of the total metro area nyc limits, 8.5 million. nyc metro area, 25 million london limits, 9 million, london metro area, 16 million
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MrMoo posted:Joseph J. Lhota said it was the opposite way around in an interview, the lines are far too spread out and income is capped. Google reports London have larger population than NYC so joe lhota is an insufferable twat, and the mta is possibly the worst transportation agency in the entire world. lhota's entire stock in trade is making excuses for why a system with high ridership, high recovery ratios, and a multi-billion dollar capital budget cannot keep up with maintenance, much less improve itself
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May 12, 2018 02:01
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Pollyanna posted:i just want to live comfortably and be happy life is suffering and we are all trapped in samsara. so yes.
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May 12, 2018 04:03
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comfortable is a lot more achievable than happy
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