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Here's a summary of practice sessions among the Y/O ranks. (leading up to a basho, its common for wrestlers to visit other Heyas to train with wrestlers who they don't see every day, and those public practice matches are useful to see how they are doing) Hakuho has been dominant, winning just about every practice session, though he did reportedly have trouble with Ichinojo, going 2-4 against him when he visited his heya. Kakuryu and Goeido have both generally done pretty well, Takayasu is clearly hurt and not doing so well. Kisenosato has looked terrible, he went 2-9 against Tochinoshin, and he even struggled to a losing record against Kotoshogiku. We will probably hear an announcement tonight (Friday morning in Japan) that Kisenosato will be out for May, but its not official quite yet. Rigel fucked around with this message at 17:42 on May 10, 2018 |
# ? May 10, 2018 17:38 |
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# ? Apr 19, 2024 18:57 |
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Apart from beating up on injured Kisenosato how's Tochinoshin looking? 10 wins with two fit Yokozuna and one Ozeki isn't impossible...
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# ? May 10, 2018 17:49 |
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I need to revise my description of Hakuho being "dominant", he's been very careful in his choice of opponents. I also missed that he didn't do so well yesterday. Tochinoshin reportedly injured his shoulder last month and got a late start on practice, but since this may be the last chance he'll get at promotion, he's been preparing. He says some days his shoulder hurts and some days its fine. Anyway, fans and media don't seem to keep close track of matches except for high-profile and "interesting" wrestlers. Also, sometimes they are working on technique rather than focused on winning (specifically, Endo said he wasn't concerned about the wins and losses, he was working on other things), but here's what I found: Hakuho (10-0) vs young cannon fodder at his own heya Hakuho (13-0) total in bouts vs Kaisei, Takarafuji, Kyokutaisei, and Homarafuji Hakuho (11-0) total on another day in bouts vs Kaisei and Takarafuji Hakuho (2-4) vs Ichinojo Hakuho (8-9) total in bouts vs Ichinojo and Yutakayama Kisenosato (18-2) vs Takayasu (that should tell you something about Takayasu's injury) Kisenosato (2-9) vs Tochinoshin Kisenosato (6-10) vs Kotoshogiku Kakuryu (18-0) total in bouts vs Yutakayama and others Kakuryu (17-0) total in bouts vs Yutakayama (8), Shodai (5), and Azumaryu (4) Goeido (18-3) vs Endo Takayasu (4-3) vs Toyonoshima (currently below Juryo) Takayasu (13-12) total in bouts vs Yutakayama, Shodai, and Nishikigi Takayasu (1-1) vs Takekaze, injured after 2nd match Tochinoshin (7-1) total in bouts vs Mitakeumi and Tochiozan Tochinoshin (4-4) on another day vs Mitakeumi Tochinoshin (7-2) on another day total in bouts vs Mitakeumi, Yutakayama, and Tochiozan Tochinoshin (9-8) on another day total in bouts vs Tochiozan, Aoiyama, and Mitakeumi Endo (7-1) total in bouts vs Sadanoumi and Myogiryu Ichinojo (16-0) total in bouts vs Yutakayama and others (not Hakuho) Rigel fucked around with this message at 19:03 on May 10, 2018 |
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I feel like every rikishi has some kind of fuckup they wrestle through. Do they ever get any time off to recover or is it just tournaments and tours all year?
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# ? May 10, 2018 19:04 |
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Kisenosato is kyujo for the May tournament. So: Y/O: Kakuryu/Goeido/Hakuho S/K: Tochinoshin/Ichinojo/Endo M1-M5: Chiyotairyu/Kaisei/Ikioi M6-M10: Okinoumi/Chiyomaru/Kagayaki M11+: Sadanoumi/Arawashi/Asanoyama
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# ? May 11, 2018 00:13 |
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Kisenosato is now starting to break some bad records. This is the longest absence by a Yokozuna in 16 years.
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# ? May 11, 2018 00:16 |
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There doesn't seem to be any other last-minute news, so everyone other than Kisenosato is competing on Day 1, unless someone trips on a step while walking into a building or gets a last-second training injury tomorrow. (Friday morning is when they set the matches for Sunday, so anyone who isn't going to compete needed to tell them by now to avoid giving someone a walkover win)
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# ? May 11, 2018 00:43 |
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I spoke too soon. Takayasu is kyujo for Day 1. His oyakata said they might consider entering the tournament a few days in.
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# ? May 11, 2018 01:37 |
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Unless it really hurts his standing I hope he just rests and wrecks everyone next basho.
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# ? May 11, 2018 02:01 |
Rigel posted:Kisenosato is now starting to break some bad records. This is the longest absence by a Yokozuna in 16 years. Yeah, and that time it was by Takanohana, who had won 22 championships at that point. Poor Kisenosato – if he's not intai before Nagoya I'd be stunned. It looks like the top competitors are all dropping like flies, but the younger guys aren't quite ready. Other than Tochinoshin's ozeki run, who's in contention? Ichinojo? Maybe if he shows up and posts 11 wins or something that'll seem reasonable, but his consistency is still in doubt. Mitakeumi spent a year not being able to do it, Onosho/Takakiesho/Hokutofuji are all injured or recovering, Abi and Yutakayama and that whole crew are way too green, Tamawashi and Yoshikaze and Ikioi etc. are all too old, really. At this point I honestly can't point to anyone in Makuuchi who seriously looks like the next yokozuna. Looking at the list I just rattled off, it actually looks like Mitakeumi is the closest, in terms of his versatility and talent, but he can't seem to stay strong all 15 days. I wonder if Natsu is going to make anything more clear.
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# ? May 11, 2018 02:07 |
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Ichinojo isn't bad, but .. how do I articulate it .. he seems like such a one trick pony?
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# ? May 11, 2018 02:22 |
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Martytoof posted:Unless it really hurts his standing I hope he just rests and wrecks everyone next basho. If he sits out, then it'll put an end to his longshot Yokozuna run, but that was probably up in smoke anyway if he's hurt, so yeah he should rest. He'll be kadoban in July if he sits out, but still Ozeki.
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# ? May 11, 2018 02:45 |
Everyone make sure to submit your picks by tomorrow night! I'm gonna do the draft around 10 or 11 PDT.
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# ? May 11, 2018 07:10 |
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Y/O: Hakuho/Kakuryu/Goeido S/K: Tochinoshin/Ichinojo/Mitakeumi M1-M5: Shohozan/Abi/Kotoshogiku M6-M10: Chiyomaru/Ryuden/Yoshikaze M11+: Aoiyama/Chiyonokuni/Ishiura
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# ? May 11, 2018 14:04 |
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Martytoof posted:Ichinojo isn't bad, but .. how do I articulate it .. he seems like such a one trick pony? He's frustrating because some days he's unstoppable and other days he's like "what's a sumo?"
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# ? May 12, 2018 12:52 |
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Y/O: Kakuryu/Hakuho/Goeido S/K: Tochinoshin/Ichinojo/Endo M1-M5: Kaisei/Shodai/Daieisho M6-M10: Chiyoshoma/Ryuden/Hokutofuji M11+: Aoiyama/Ishiura/Aminishiki
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# ? May 12, 2018 13:02 |
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Anime Reference posted:He's frustrating because some days he's unstoppable and other days he's like "what's a sumo?" Yeah, that was my thought too. Martytoof posted:Some awesome Sumo today. But even on days where he’s unstoppable he feels very one-trick. Having said that, I’m sure I’m not being fair and just not remembering him using various techniques or being interesting.
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# ? May 12, 2018 14:00 |
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I know it's a longshot but I really hope Aminishiki makes kachi-kochi this tournament. I love that old dude for sticking with the sport for so long.
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# ? May 12, 2018 15:29 |
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Martytoof posted:But even on days where he’s unstoppable he feels very one-trick. Having said that, I’m sure I’m not being fair and just not remembering him using various techniques or being interesting. He’ll bust out an kotenage or uwatenage once or twice per basho against someone who's aggressively pushing back against him, but for the most part, he relies on using his bulk to lean on his opponents. Sure, he's a one-trick pony, but Kotoshogiku made a career out of being one too.
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# ? May 12, 2018 16:51 |
Finally did the draft! Here are the teams: anakha y/o: Kakuryu s/k: Tochinoshin m1-5: Tamawashi m6-10: Hokutofuji M11+: Arawashi Fluffdaddy y/o: Hakuho s/k: Ichinojo m1-5: Shodai m6-10: Ryuden M11+: Ishiura Kanthulu y/o: Hakuho s/k: Ichinojo m1-5: Kaisei m6-10: Hokutofuji M11+: Aoiyama Kenning y/o: Hakuho s/k: Tochinoshin m1-5: Tamawashi m6-10: Takakeisho M11+: Asanoyama Rigel y/o: Kakuryu s/k: Endo m1-5: Chiyotairyu m6-10: Okinoumi M11+: Sadanoumi Sivad y/o: Goeido s/k: Tochinoshin m1-5: Shohozan m6-10: Chiyomaru M11+: Chiyonokuni Vargatron y/o: Kakuryu s/k: Ichinojo m1-5: Kaisei m6-10: Chiyoshoma M11+: Aoiyama The current wire is: rigel Fluffdaddy Vargatron Kanthulu anakha Kenning sivad The following wrestlers are unavailable for trading: Kakuryu Hakuho Tochinoshin Ichinojo Kaisei Tamawashi Aoiyama With 7 people playing, it's 3 per for san'yaku, and 2 per for maegashira. Should all be straightforward. Looking forward to some sumo! fake edit: One funny thing is that I believe everyone's picks for the s/k ranks were identical. I guess it says something of how people expect this thing to go.
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# ? May 13, 2018 05:54 |
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ahh drat, im happy i got kakuryu because he's been a stud in the "offseason", but i was hoping maybe i'd have ichinojo in S/K. Oh well, I'm 1st position on the waiver wire, and I think I'll need to take advantage of that in an important day this basho.
Rigel fucked around with this message at 16:54 on May 13, 2018 |
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Not very thrilling day one, eh
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# ? May 13, 2018 21:05 |
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I liked that Shohozan had his mawashi tied Tochinoshin-styles against Tochinoshin.
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# ? May 14, 2018 02:28 |
Nothing really crazy day.1, but it's nice to see Tochinoshin still fighting with grit and power. If he can keep on that track I think double digits are possible.
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# ? May 14, 2018 05:18 |
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Rest in Peace, Doreen
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# ? May 14, 2018 07:40 |
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"All the while, Ms. Simmons deepened her devotion to sumo, in which two enormous men in loincloths attempt to push each other to the ground or beyond a prescribed circle." While technically accurate, there has to be a better way to sum up Sumo in a sentence or less Then again, I guess when you try to sum up any sport in a few words it'll come off sounding silly.
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# ? May 14, 2018 12:08 |
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Day 2: Endo's bout was very exciting. Abi put up a good fight but it was over as soon as Tochinoshin grabbed his belt. Kaisei is running into issues due to his higher rank, though he fell victim to Ichinojo's lean strategy.
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# ? May 14, 2018 15:26 |
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The Sanyaku are defending their turf so far this basho, which is a nice change. The last couple tournaments, everything promptly went haywire in the first couple days.
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# ? May 14, 2018 15:31 |
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Vargatron posted:Day 2: The only lean thing about him.
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# ? May 14, 2018 19:35 |
Hey all, sorry for not posting results yesterday, I was traveling on Mother's Day. Here we are for day 2:code:
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# ? May 15, 2018 06:14 |
Day 3 standings:code:
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# ? May 16, 2018 08:41 |
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Pulling seems to be a strategy that is backfiring for many rikishi on day 4.
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# ? May 16, 2018 13:28 |
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Day 4: The first major upset of the basho. Kakuryu finally had his pulls backfire. Hakuho is looking stronger and stronger as the tournament goes on. Tochinoshin really wants that Ozeki ranking. Good stuff so far.
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# ? May 16, 2018 18:02 |
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MalarkeyToboggan posted:Day 4: He's fine if pivots and pulls or stands his ground and pulls. It when he panics and tries to make space by moving backwards that he does himself.
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# ? May 17, 2018 01:09 |
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Day 5 was fun. Holy crap, that Endo-Ichinojo match was nuts! The leaderboard is now down to 3. Rigel fucked around with this message at 20:55 on May 17, 2018 |
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drat this Basho keeps getting better!
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# ? May 17, 2018 13:32 |
Day 5 really lighting up! Several banner bouts today. Daiamami v. Chiyonokuni and Ichinojo v. Endo are totally must-see.
Kenning fucked around with this message at 17:07 on May 17, 2018 |
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# ? May 17, 2018 17:05 |
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Tochinoshin halfway there... I'm getting pumped
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# ? May 17, 2018 17:34 |
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Kaisei is looking pretty bad this basho. However, Abi is looking relatively good despite losing a lot of matches. He's going to be really hard to handle once he gets some experience.
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# ? May 17, 2018 17:36 |
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Yeah, Kaisei is getting the regular M1 treatment, but he's also looking sluggish. Abi is really putting up good fights, and I'm super excited to see what he learns from his experience with the big boys. I think I'm going to trade Tamawashi for Shodai.
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