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Byers2142 posted:Did two different people just confuse kumba and Andy? If it were allowed, I'd say that is evidence of OOT conversation. As it is, what the hell?
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CapnAndy posted:Now that we're all done belittling each other, we do still need a Chancellor. Does anyone on any side of any slapfight have an issue with Byers? I was gonna suggest Amalgam but I don't think anyone's talking to/about him at all, which is weird and a little potentially Hitler-y. I do; I've already been Chancellor and had a 1 and 1 choice. In fact, I think I'm the only Chancellor thus far that was given a choice. At 2 lib to 1 fas, it's a waste making me Chancellor instead of trying out other people and getting more information.
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May 12, 2018 17:04
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PMush Perfect posted:This is good logic. Why kumba over AA?
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I have no strong feelings about AA at all right now, but at least for me, kumba feels like someone who I'd like to be able to reevaluate knowing if there's a fascist policy attached.
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May 12, 2018 17:09
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In fact, more on Andy's suggestion. If AA feels hitler-y to you, why not put him in the government while it is safe to and see what he does? Maybe he fucks up and outs himself. Its weird to make that suggestion attached to wanting to skip a chance to gain information on him.
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PMush Perfect posted:I have no strong feelings about AA at all right now, but at least for me, kumba feels like someone who I'd like to be able to reevaluate knowing if there's a fascist policy attached. Fair enough. I'm leaning towards AA simply because there's so little there right now to read.
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Byers2142 posted:In fact, more on Andy's suggestion. If AA feels hitler-y to you, why not put him in the government while it is safe to and see what he does? Maybe he fucks up and outs himself. Its weird to make that suggestion attached to wanting to skip a chance to gain information on him. This is why I want kumba in government in the next couple of turns and why I would consider putting him first, but I think as long as kumba is chancellor in the next couple of governments we should be fine if he is Secret Hitler. What I'm concerned about in the future is if kumba is Secret Hitler, I'm not sure I want him as the one with the 2nd investigation or special election.
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PMush Perfect posted:I have no strong feelings about AA at all right now, but at least for me, kumba feels like someone who I'd like to be able to reevaluate knowing if there's a fascist policy attached. I mean if the deck count is right, then the next two governments should be able to pass 1F1L to the chancellor, but for some reason I feel like the Cpig government will be more revealing so to speak. As long as a liberal policy is passed in the CPig government, I see no reason to deny a DB government, but the problem becomes if a fascist policy is enacted first because then we would be looking at DB with 2F2L and wondering if the count is off. Then we would have to consider if we want to start skipping governments. If we skipped DB, then kumba would be up and if we skipped him then AA would be up and we'd have to accept him or take the top policy. And that is why I think it's important that the next chancellor is one of kumba/AA because we can't move past them without having to elect one of them unless DB is elected.
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I am currently in St Augustine and drunk at 1230 for the wife's birthday so it is extraordinarily unlikely I'll be able to participate further today
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kumba posted:I am currently in St Augustine and drunk at 1230 for the wife's birthday so it is extraordinarily unlikely I'll be able to participate further today No big deal, we have until tomorrow at like 11pm CST to make the nomination.
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Byers2142 posted:In fact, more on Andy's suggestion. If AA feels hitler-y to you, why not put him in the government while it is safe to and see what he does? Maybe he fucks up and outs himself. Its weird to make that suggestion attached to wanting to skip a chance to gain information on him. Yeah. Another example of cap being off this game. Still fine with AA or kumba. Don't think I'd vote in anyone else.
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May 12, 2018 17:59
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May 12, 2018 19:58
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I’m fine with either aa or kumba
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May 12, 2018 19:58
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I say nominate AA. If tmm's senario comes to pass, I think getting info on AA now would make that tough choice a little less tough.
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Byers2142 posted:In fact, more on Andy's suggestion. If AA feels hitler-y to you, why not put him in the government while it is safe to and see what he does? Maybe he fucks up and outs himself. Its weird to make that suggestion attached to wanting to skip a chance to gain information on him. Also I don't understand how the same town that's measuring me for a noose because I am not optimized for new information or whatever simultaneously wants to elect the guy who was already Chancellor one turn ago, but I'm so far done arguing it's not funny. My game is simple: I'm gonna help liberals and elect liberals. Anyone who wants to join in, great, everyone else trying to 11th-dimensional chess their own asses into losing by being too clever by half, keep on keeping on. I'm only one vote.
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May 13, 2018 00:47
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Reminder that there are about 9 hours until nomination deadline.
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TMMadman posted:No big deal, we have until tomorrow at like 11pm CST to make the nomination. Hah, I misread the original time and didn't realize it was 11pm GMT.
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May 13, 2018 14:13
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CapnAndy posted:Now that we're all done belittling each other, we do still need a Chancellor. Does anyone on any side of any slapfight have an issue with Byers? I was gonna suggest Amalgam but I don't think anyone's talking to/about him at all, which is weird and a little potentially Hitler-y. Could you explain again why this is potentially hitler-y
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I really hope CPig looks in and nominates someone. We've all pretty much agreed it should be one of AA/kumba, so he can go ahead and pick one and we can all just vote on it at this point.
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Dancer posted:Game status has now been added to the OP. Also, thanks. 
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May 13, 2018 16:56
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I am going to be gone/busy most of the day so I am going to go ahead and throw this out. ##nominate AA ##vote yes
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##vote yes
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Happy moms day ##vote yes
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Let's see what happens. ##vote yes
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##vote yes
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Yeah, I'm okay with it. ##vote yes
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With winter comes another Fascist policy. The country is getting close to a point where a particularly ruthless leader might be able to seize power with one swift coup, given the opportunity... CapitalistPig may ##investigate a player. For this he has 48 hours. Game status: 5 cards in the policy deck 8 cards in the discard pile 2 Fascist policies passed 2 Liberal policies passed Presidency order: Dick Bastardly Retro Futurist kumba Anomalous Amalgam TMMadman Byers2142 PMush Perfect CapnAndy King Burgundy CapitalistPig Previous administration was CapitalistPig and Anomalous Amalgam Investigation deadline: 15th May, 20:00 GMT
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May 13, 2018 19:31
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I got two fascist and a liberal and passed a fascist and a liberal. AA bad guy
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CapitalistPig posted:I got two fascist and a liberal and passed a fascist and a liberal. Lies I got 2 fascist cards. Pig is the bad man.
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Way to get in front of that.
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Doing yard work, will argue soon.
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Ok, so right now, the Presidential order and the bolded people have conflicts: Dick Bastardly Retro Futurist kumba Anomalous Amalgam TMMadman Byers2142 PMush Perfect CapnAndy King Burgundy CapitalistPig We know that there are at least two fascists in that group of four. Is there a reason why a fascist would go into conflict with another fascist here? Should we just assume that the bolded four contain two liberals and two fascists? I'm not sure what to make about this claim. It could be a play by either CPig or AA to force a kumba governement. Or maybe it was just an opportunity to lock someone out of government and get a fascist policy enacted.
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Can we quarantine both of them for a while? DB picks someone, we deny RF a government, Kumba gets a turn, we deny AA a government? I trust AA more than CPig, but at 2 fascist, I'd rather not take chances. DB, who are you thinking for chancellor?
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PMush Perfect posted:Can we quarantine both of them for a while? DB picks someone, we deny RF a government, Kumba gets a turn, we deny AA a government? We can deny the special election right? It's just an appointed president who nominates a chancellor and we vote on it, right? If it gets denied then we move on to the next person in line? Does it count against the chaos timer?
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Also, we can't really trust CPig to investigate KB right now, or anyone for that matter.
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I mean, AA is lying. I understand if you want to believe him more than me. I'll investigate whoever the consensus is.
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TMMadman posted:We can deny the special election right? It's just an appointed president who nominates a chancellor and we vote on it, right? If it gets denied then we move on to the next person in line? Does it count against the chaos timer? You can vote down the special election, and the cycle goes back to where it was before. (e.g. if you get selected to be the president for the special election, the next president won't be Byers, but whoever was due to be next president before it happened). Yes, it counts as a failed government.
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We shouldn't vote yes on any government that contains me or AA, and of course RF and KB.
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Is it three in a row that causes chaos or just three? Because a kumba government would break the chain between the two. Don't really care who pig investigates, I won't trust it.
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