Paradox Grand Strategy: Tim Cook? How many divisions has he got?

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axeil: Feb 14, 2006

AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:

also you need to slow your av down

If it's any slower it's over the file size limit :negative:

# ? May 16, 2018 15:48

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# ? Apr 23, 2024 16:29

FreudianSlippers: Apr 12, 2010; Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

It's obviously going to be a game set in early 60s Africa where you play as a newly independent state and must deal with internal struggles as well as external problems of neo-colonialism, CIA backed coups, and the French being assholes.

The Paradox Forums will love it.

# ? May 16, 2018 15:58

wukkar: Nov 27, 2009

It's whatever time period had Old Great Bulgaria.

# ? May 16, 2018 16:05

Tomn: Aug 23, 2007; And the angel said unto him
"Stop hitting yourself. Stop hitting yourself."
But lo he could not. For the angel was hitting him with his own hands

FreudianSlippers posted:

It's obviously going to be a game set in early 60s Africa where you play as a newly independent state and must deal with internal struggles as well as external problems of neo-colonialism, CIA backed coups, and the French being assholes.

The Paradox Forums will love it.

So basically the 1988 Hidden Agenda, only set in Africa instead of Central America?

I'd play that.

# ? May 16, 2018 16:08

really queer Christmas: Apr 22, 2014

wukkar posted:

It's whatever time period had Old Great Bulgaria.

Finally, what we've all been waiting for- the full paradox release of Steppe Wolf.

# ? May 16, 2018 16:09

Drone: Aug 22, 2003; Incredible machine

really queer Christmas posted:

Finally, what we've all been waiting for- the full paradox release of Steppe Wolf.

They're finally gonna release Magna Mundi.

# ? May 16, 2018 16:40

double nine: Aug 8, 2013

FreudianSlippers posted:

It's obviously going to be a game set in early 60s Africa where you play as a newly independent state and must deal with internal struggles as well as external problems of neo-colonialism, CIA backed coups, and the French being assholes.

The Paradox Forums will love it.

I'd play Paradox' Tropico.

# ? May 16, 2018 17:29

Sarmhan: Nov 1, 2011

I'm 50/50 between Rome 2 or something completely new and unexpected.

# ? May 16, 2018 17:40

Lum_: Jun 5, 2006

Johann could post "they speak latin there!" in his next teaser and some of you would immediately conclude it was a 19th century economic simulator set in Kenya.

# ? May 16, 2018 17:45

Drone: Aug 22, 2003; Incredible machine

Lum_ posted:

Johann could post "they speak latin there!" in his next teaser and some of you would immediately conclude it was a 19th century economic simulator set in Kenya.

..."he means the Latin Monetary Union, of course! Vicky 3 confirmed!"

# ? May 16, 2018 17:47

Fuligin: Oct 27, 2010; wait what the fuck??

FreudianSlippers posted:

It's obviously going to be a game set in early 60s Africa where you play as a newly independent state and must deal with internal struggles as well as external problems of neo-colonialism, CIA backed coups, and the French being assholes.

The Paradox Forums will love it.

Sankara: 1945-2035 would own

# ? May 16, 2018 18:05

Fister Roboto: Feb 21, 2008

axeil posted:

I'm pretty sure this means the Vicky 3 hopes are truly dead. Religion didn't do anything in Vicky 2 except provide flavor.

It affected some pop behaviors and of course political parties all had their own religious stances from moralism to atheism. That sounds quite a lot like "religion is present but not the most important thing".

# ? May 16, 2018 18:23

TheMcD: May 4, 2013; Monaca / Subject N 2024
---------
Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

Fister Roboto posted:

It affected some pop behaviors and of course political parties all had their own religious stances from moralism to atheism. That sounds quite a lot like "religion is present but not the most important thing".

Yep, can't forget those wonderful religious stances. Quoting from issues.txt from V2's game files here, which describes the effects of party issues:

code:

religious_policy = {
		pro_atheism = {
			#no effect
		}
		secularized = {
			#no effect
		}
		pluralism = {
			#no effect
		}
		moralism = {
			#no effect
		}
	}

# ? May 16, 2018 18:27

Pakled: Aug 6, 2011; WE ARE SMART

TheMcD posted:

Yep, can't forget those wonderful religious stances. Quoting from issues.txt from V2's game files here, which describes the effects of party issues:
code:
religious_policy = {
		pro_atheism = {
			#no effect
		}
		secularized = {
			#no effect
		}
		pluralism = {
			#no effect
		}
		moralism = {
			#no effect
		}
	}

It didn't have a direct affect on the country, but it did have an affect on immigration. If the ruling party is moralist, minority religions are more likely to emigrate, and pops are more likely to choose provinces that share their religion as migration targets.

# ? May 16, 2018 18:38

Mantis42: Jul 26, 2010

The game is called Rome 2 but is actually Victoria 3.

# ? May 16, 2018 18:42

Pakled: Aug 6, 2011; WE ARE SMART

Mantis42 posted:

The game is called Rome 2 but is actually Victoria 3.

Paradox announces Rome 2

colon: Garibaldi's Dream

# ? May 16, 2018 18:48

bees everywhere: Nov 19, 2002

Teaser 6: The next game title rhymes with "Shmome Stew"

Victoria 3 confirmed!

# ? May 16, 2018 18:48

Fister Roboto: Feb 21, 2008

TheMcD posted:

Yep, can't forget those wonderful religious stances. Quoting from issues.txt from V2's game files here, which describes the effects of party issues:
code:
religious_policy = {
		pro_atheism = {
			#no effect
		}
		secularized = {
			#no effect
		}
		pluralism = {
			#no effect
		}
		moralism = {
			#no effect
		}
	}

It didn't have any direct effect on the country, but it obviously affected politics. Moralist pops were more likely to vote for moralist parties and so on.

Besides, that's still "religion is present but not the most important thing".

# ? May 16, 2018 18:51

Drone: Aug 22, 2003; Incredible machine

Doesn't Paradox have two secret titles currently brewing, and only one of them is being announced at PDXCon? Or both?

Why yes this is me rationalizing the inevitable disappointment I will feel when they announce anything that isn't Victoria 3

# ? May 16, 2018 18:51

Fister Roboto: Feb 21, 2008

Mantis42 posted:

The game is called Rome 2 but is actually Victoria 3.

Vae Victoria!

# ? May 16, 2018 18:52

Drone: Aug 22, 2003; Incredible machine

In a weird twist, the game is actually called Albert

# ? May 16, 2018 18:53

TheMcD: May 4, 2013; Monaca / Subject N 2024
---------
Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

Pakled posted:

It didn't have a direct affect on the country, but it did have an affect on immigration. If the ruling party is moralist, minority religions are more likely to emigrate, and pops are more likely to choose provinces that share their religion as migration targets.

Sure, though the effect is minor at best (a 0.1 factor change compared to say, a -0.3 factor change if the state has any factories), but it still might as well just not exist for all it does.

Like, yeah, pops that are, say, in favor of Pluralism, will vote for Pluralist parties, but as far as the game is concerned, Pluralism, Secularism and Atheism are all functionally identical, which still confuses me as to whether this was intended or if they just ran out of time to add something to religion.

Really, I have no point here beyond "man, religion in Vicky 2 seemed really pointless" and just really felt like posting that snippet out of issues.txt because it amuses me.

# ? May 16, 2018 19:08

catlord: Mar 22, 2009; What's on your mind, Axa?

Drone posted:

Doesn't Paradox have two secret titles currently brewing, and only one of them is being announced at PDXCon? Or both?

Why yes this is me rationalizing the inevitable disappointment I will feel when they announce anything that isn't Victoria 3

Paradox has one, and Triumph has one, both are being announced at PDXCon.

# ? May 16, 2018 19:51

Kaza42: Oct 3, 2013; Blood and Souls and all that

TheMcD posted:

Sure, though the effect is minor at best (a 0.1 factor change compared to say, a -0.3 factor change if the state has any factories), but it still might as well just not exist for all it does.

Like, yeah, pops that are, say, in favor of Pluralism, will vote for Pluralist parties, but as far as the game is concerned, Pluralism, Secularism and Atheism are all functionally identical, which still confuses me as to whether this was intended or if they just ran out of time to add something to religion.

Really, I have no point here beyond "man, religion in Vicky 2 seemed really pointless" and just really felt like posting that snippet out of issues.txt because it amuses me.

This could even be deliberate. As societies advance and industrialize, the impact of religion on governance diminishes while still remaining incredibly important to the populace. And so you should see politicians adopting a religious stance, which factors heavily into the voting and immigration behavior of pops, but that doesn't actually change much about the government or affairs of state beyond helping to identify acceptable targets.

# ? May 16, 2018 19:53

spectralent: Oct 1, 2014; Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Fister Roboto posted:

It didn't have any direct effect on the country, but it obviously affected politics. Moralist pops were more likely to vote for moralist parties and so on.

Besides, that's still "religion is present but not the most important thing".

Also that doesn't rule out that in Victoria 3, Religion might have more of an effect on how things work without going to the extent of modifiers it gives in EUIV or creating political blocs like it does in CK2.

# ? May 16, 2018 20:26

AnoHito: May 8, 2014

Victoria 3 is ruled out by them having explicitly ruled out it being Victoria 3 :v:

# ? May 16, 2018 20:49

spectralent: Oct 1, 2014; Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

AnoHito posted:

Victoria 3 is ruled out by them having explicitly ruled out it being Victoria 3

But not by "religion is present but not the most important thing". :colbert:

# ? May 16, 2018 20:52

bees everywhere: Nov 19, 2002

AnoHito posted:

Victoria 3 is ruled out by them having explicitly ruled out it being Victoria 3

Hmm maybe this is actually anal attentive trolling. Iirc they ruled out Vicky 3 but not Victoria 3.

# ? May 16, 2018 21:00

Dr. Video Games 0031: Jul 17, 2004

If there was ever a company that would "rule out" a game and then immediately announce it, it's Paradox.

That said, it's clearly Sengoku 2.

# ? May 16, 2018 21:11

Radio Free Kobold: Aug 11, 2012; "Federal regulations mandate that at least 30% of our content must promote Reptilian or Draconic culture. This is DJ Scratch N' Sniff with the latest mermaid screeching on KBLD..."

when do they announce victoria 3

# ? May 16, 2018 21:17

Shark Sandwich: Sep 6, 2010; by R. Guyovich

really don't care about anything other than Victoria 3

# ? May 16, 2018 21:18

canepazzo: May 29, 2006

I;m thinkin about thos Pops

# ? May 16, 2018 21:28

ThatBasqueGuy: Feb 14, 2013; someone introduce jojo to lazyb

When you kill a soldier pop in a war, do you ever consider the fact that you're lowkey killing the wife and average of two kids that the pop also represented?

# ? May 16, 2018 21:39

spectralent: Oct 1, 2014; Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

ThatBasqueGuy posted:

When you kill a soldier pop in a war, do you ever consider the fact that you're lowkey killing the wife and average of two kids that the pop also represented?

tbh I always forget that pops are only adult males. Hopefully when Vicky 3 is announced, as it soon will be, they'll remember that women and children exist too. I mean, especially since child labour was one of the major issues of the period.

# ? May 16, 2018 21:43

Funky Valentine: Feb 26, 2014; Dojyaa~an

ThatBasqueGuy posted:

When you kill a soldier pop in a war, do you ever consider the fact that you're lowkey killing the wife and average of two kids that the pop also represented?

Look, he's the one who thought that bringing his family to the Chinese Hellwar was a good idea.

# ? May 16, 2018 21:46

Radio Free Kobold: Aug 11, 2012; "Federal regulations mandate that at least 30% of our content must promote Reptilian or Draconic culture. This is DJ Scratch N' Sniff with the latest mermaid screeching on KBLD..."