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seiferguy posted:Danny Hultzen had a torn antorior capsule and that completely ruined his career. Michael Pineda tore his labrum and was never the same guy when he came back.
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Johan Santana's shoulder exploded and then he threw a no-hitter and then it exploded again.
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Inspector_666 posted:The Dodgers got off to a slowish start last year but they were still one game over .500 on May 1st, and on this date in 2017 they were 22-18. Poque posted:I mean kind of, and nobody wants to be 9 games below .500, but they're only -5 in run differential so it feels like there's more luck to turn around than just their injured boys coming back bawfuls fucked around with this message at 22:12 on May 16, 2018 |
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May 16, 2018 22:09
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Dodgers are going to be more then fine. Probably gonna rule the NL roost for the next 5. I'm taking my shots while I can!
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May 16, 2018 22:09
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Checking random stats and I noticed that the HPB leaders are Bryant and Rizzo, 9 and 8 respectively. No way that's a coincidence. I would lay money on them competing on a wager made in the smoky, pine-tar stained backrooms of the Cubs speakeasy.
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Rizzo makes sense because he stand on the plate, why Bryant has been getting plunked so much I'm not sure. Maybe guys just feel like they have no other option but throw inside on him cause they're afraid to leave anything over the plate.
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May 16, 2018 22:27
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Rizzo led last year, and he and Bryant were in the top 10 in in 2017 and 2016. These guys are looking for it.
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the popes toes posted:Checking random stats and I noticed that the HPB leaders are Bryant and Rizzo, 9 and 8 respectively. the Chicago crime machine strikes again
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May 16, 2018 22:30
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If you genuinely think guys are looking to regularly get hit by 90+ MPH fastballs then you're delusional. That's not really a sustainable career choice. It's something you accept happens but Bryant clearly wasn't looking to get hit in the face by a fastball a month ago. He was out for 10 days despite being cleared of concussion and any serious injury.
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Epic High Five posted:the Chicago crime machine strikes again Stolen Signals would be an outstanding stat to follow
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N: By UZR/150, Kyle Schwarber is the best defensive player in all MLB. Not LF, not the NL, all of MLB V: I have no idea what the hell UZR/150 means or how it works, but loving  defensive stats are bad.
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Popete posted:Rizzo makes sense because he stand on the plate, why Bryant has been getting plunked so much I'm not sure. Maybe guys just feel like they have no other option but throw inside on him cause they're afraid to leave anything over the plate. I figured he was just getting pitched in, but that's not really the case: 
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Popete posted:If you genuinely think guys are looking to regularly get hit by 90+ MPH fastballs then you're delusional. That's not really a sustainable career choice. No, you're right. But while I know no one wants to get hurt, it can't be a random stat, by definition, since they've both been in the top 10 for 3 years.
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May 16, 2018 22:39
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Inspector_666 posted:I figured he was just getting pitched in, but that's not really the case: From the eye test, Bryant's mostly learned to lay off of outside pitches, but he's still weak inside. Is there a good source of batter performance based on the strike zone (like the 3x3 grid)?
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Poque posted:From the eye test, Bryant's mostly learned to lay off of outside pitches, but he's still weak inside. https://www.fangraphs.com/zonegrid....on=2018&data=pi You can set the heatmap to show Swing%, Contact%, and Called Strike %. And then there's the Brooks Baseball charts:  (This is whiff% on pitches in those spots, which shows he does whiff inside, but the actual pitch counts aren't telling.) Either way, he's not getting pitched inside to an inordinate degree, really. Inspector_666 fucked around with this message at 22:47 on May 16, 2018 |
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May 16, 2018 22:42
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Poque posted:From the eye test, Bryant's mostly learned to lay off of outside pitches, but he's still weak inside. Inspector_666 posted:https://www.fangraphs.com/zonegrid....on=2018&data=pi What service can do those charts by exit velocity? Like this one Sarris posted for Altuve earlier today: https://twitter.com/enosarris/status/996823566623490048
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the popes toes posted:No, you're right. But while I know no one wants to get hurt, it can't be a random stat, by definition, since they've both been in the top 10 for 3 years. I still think it has to do with Bryant getting pitched inside, it might be that he's getting thrown more braking balls inside which if the pitcher is having trouble finishing can float up and plunk a guy.
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Good Dog posted:What service can do those charts by exit velocity? Like this one Sarris posted for Altuve earlier today: Quick rule of thumb is that anything with StatCast data comes from BaseballSavant: https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/kris-bryant-592178?stats=career-r-hitting-mlb (Click the exit velo number/link in the Statcast - Batting table.) EDIT: lol here's 2017 Aaron Judge  EDIT2: Honestly I don't think this really shows what Eno wants it to, though. Aaron Hicks' chart looks very similar to Altuve's, for example. I would use the shiff rate plot instead, because the answer to "Where do you pitch Altuve?" seems to be "You hope he chases low." 
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May 16, 2018 22:46
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Sydin posted:N: By UZR/150, Kyle Schwarber is the best defensive player in all MLB. Not LF, not the NL, all of MLB He's gotten a bunch of outfield assists already this season, so that might have something to do with it. I think teams are more likely to run on him because he's not a natural outfielder, but then they quickly find out he's got a pretty good arm. It's just his routes that are atrocious at times.
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HOTLANTA MAN posted:*I wake up from stasis* Noted over the hill baseballer Bautista is still about 200 OPS higher than our garbage morales. DFA Morales.
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Here's the historical leaderboard for HBP. It's interesting. hahah Chase Utley leads all time history at number 8 for HBP. The leader at number 1 is some old timey guy named Hughie Jennings, nice trivia question. https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/HBP_career.shtml
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*2018 World Series Game 3* *extremely overcadenced voice* The starting second baseman for your Los Angeles Dodgers.....MAX!! MUHNC-YY!!!!! *roar of MUUUNNNNNCCCCE washes over the crowd*
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Sydin posted:N: By UZR/150, Kyle Schwarber is the best defensive player in all MLB. Not LF, not the NL, all of MLB I remember when I first started to follow advance stats around 2012 or 13 Brett Lawrie was one of the top 5 players in baseball because his defensive WAR was insanely high because his shifts into short right field gave some weird bizarro super stats.
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Sydin posted:N: By UZR/150, Kyle Schwarber is the best defensive player in all MLB. Not LF, not the NL, all of MLB This is very bad news for my avatar bet with Popete.
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the popes toes posted:Here's the historical leaderboard for HBP. It's interesting. hahah Chase Utley leads all time history at number 8 for HBP. Stuff like this is always interesting. Like Ron Hunt very clearly changed something he did starting in 1968. He got hit 50 times in 71, thats impressive. Thats a huge portion of his overall value as a hitter considering his OBP was higher than his SLG.
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Julio Cruz posted:This is very bad news for my avatar bet with Popete. I mean to be fair bbref has him at 1 DRS and -0.1 dWAR which is... actually not that bad? Like he was absolutely god awful last year: -9 DRS / -1.4 dWAR. Obviously he's nowhere near the best defensive defensive anything anywhere, but the normal defensive stats I actually try to use so far place him as pretty much replacement level in the field, which if holds true for a full season would be a huge win. Kevlar v2.0 posted:He's gotten a bunch of outfield assists already this season, so that might have something to do with it. I think teams are more likely to run on him because he's not a natural outfielder, but then they quickly find out he's got a pretty good arm. It's just his routes that are atrocious at times. What's interesting is that IIRC his arm grade as a catching prospect was... not good. He's been nailing guys at the plate like its going out of style though.
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the popes toes posted:Here's the historical leaderboard for HBP. It's interesting. hahah Chase Utley leads all time history at number 8 for HBP. No matter how many times I see it, it still amazes me that we have detailed stats for players dating back to the 1880s and 1890s. You’d think that kind of minutiae would have been lost to time.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:No matter how many times I see it, it still amazes me that we have detailed stats for players dating back to the 1880s and 1890s. You’d think that kind of minutiae would have been lost to time. From an IT perspective, how does that database stay both accurate and secure? Since it is accurate and secure (presumably), it would be an interesting model to study with regard to distributed database security. - for another forum I guess.
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patonthebach posted:Noted over the hill baseballer Bautista is still about 200 OPS higher than our garbage morales. Seriously. Mods please change my name to DFA MORALES. It would be so much better for this busted up team to be able to give a dude a semi-restful DH day instead of having this black hole sucking up that spot.
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Julio Cruz posted:This is very bad news for my avatar bet with Popete. 
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What happened to Morales, a case of Old?
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the popes toes posted:From an IT perspective, how does that database stay both accurate and secure? Since it is accurate and secure (presumably), it would be an interesting model to study with regard to distributed database security. - for another forum I guess. the database is actually written in pencil on a legal pad and sits in a storage closet with the shop vac and a bunch of busted hard drives. this is actually the most secure way to store data in 2018.
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Popete posted:If you genuinely think guys are looking to regularly get hit by 90+ MPH fastballs then you're delusional. That's not really a sustainable career choice.
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HOTLANTA MAN posted:What happened to Morales, a case of Old? He was never that great a hitter, and he is hugely negative on the basepaths and cant play in the field. The signing made no sense two off seasons ago and it makes even less sense today. Our team would literally be better with just alternating rest days of our other players. One of the worst DH signings in our team history.
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Popete posted:If you genuinely think guys are looking to regularly get hit by 90+ MPH fastballs then you're delusional. That's not really a sustainable career choice. Now I want to see some Mick Foley type work his way into the majors based solely on his .500+ OBP from taking HBPs all day. Although I feel like that may have been the plot to an Adam Sandler movie.
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the popes toes posted:Here's the historical leaderboard for HBP. It's interesting. hahah Chase Utley leads all time history at number 8 for HBP. Jennings went on the manage the Tigers through a good portion of Ty Cobb's career.
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The Berzerker posted:Seriously. Mods please change my name to DFA MORALES. It would be so much better for this busted up team to be able to give a dude a semi-restful DH day instead of having this black hole sucking up that spot. When Pearce/Tulo/Grichuk/Diaz all come back in the next 2-3 weeks, he's gotta be gone.
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Sydin posted:N: By UZR/150, Kyle Schwarber is the best defensive player in all MLB. Not LF, not the NL, all of MLB UZR IS BULLSHIT thats what's up
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Good Dog posted:Stuff like this is always interesting. Like Ron Hunt very clearly changed something he did starting in 1968. He got hit 50 times in 71, thats impressive. Thats a huge portion of his overall value as a hitter considering his OBP was higher than his SLG. Probably looked at Gibson the wrong way in ‘67.
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Popete posted:If you genuinely think guys are looking to regularly get hit by 90+ MPH fastballs then you're delusional. That's not really a sustainable career choice. Craig “The Big HBP” Biggio
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