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No show or movie or whatever is perfect (lol the guy's name is Holden I think he's kind of supposed to suck? I haven't read the books) but I really liked The Expanse and I think a lot of other people do too. If this really is it's last season then at least it's getting a proper ending, no endless cliffhanger bullshit. At it's core though, it's about people trying to do the right thing in the face of overwhelming bullshit and as "gritty and dark" as it is I think that aspect shines through and makes it feel overall less oppressive to me than say, BSG. I guess my original point was that after all these years I've learned that the basic Star Trek formula can still actually work if the people doing it are at least somewhat talented and totally earnest about what they want to do, and I shouldn't really be surprised that works better than fleeing from the whole idea while winking at it as hard as you can like some other shows do cough cough
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drunken officeparty posted:Kelly gets best actress? She's just as mediocre as Seth. If anyone deserves it, Alara does. yeah alara and bortus are the clear nominees really
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May 16, 2018 21:46
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Tighclops posted:If this really is it's last season then at least it's getting a proper ending, no endless cliffhanger bullshit. Where in the world did you get that idea? It's based on a series of books that is still going and from what I understand the 2nd book is wrapping up with the mid-season episode tonight. It's absolutely going to end the season in a cliffhanger with numerous ongoing threads that aren't even introduced yet.
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May 16, 2018 22:21
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accord posted:I like expanse just enough to care it got cancelled, but lol @ the first season for thinking I care about the goody two shoes bland dude with the cult birth bg when really I wanted husky voice lady and the pretty Southern boy brute While Baltimore is technically in the south, don't get caught saying that in Charm City.
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May 17, 2018 00:11
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Measly Twerp posted:The Expanse got cancelled because it was so boring that nobody watched it yet still obscenely expensive. The main cast were entirely forgettable for the first season except for that Indian lady with the husky voice who's name I can't even remember. Krispy Wafer posted:Expanse is one of those shows that you check the DVR to see how much time is left and let out a groan no matter where it is on the timeline. accord posted:I like expanse just enough to care it got cancelled, but lol @ the first season for thinking I care about the goody two shoes bland dude with the cult birth bg when really I wanted husky voice lady and the pretty Southern boy brute Holy poo poo I'm glad it wasn't just me. I was almost embarrassed to say I was bored by it. It's a show I wanted to like so bad, and it was kinda interesting, but never really hooked me. There are some shows that are just drat compelling from the get go, and this was not one of them. I guess I'll get to it someday, I mean it's on Netflix now, but it's not a show I look forward to, compared to Orville or even DISCO especially the 2nd half of the season.
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bull3964 posted:Where in the world did you get that idea? It's based on a series of books that is still going and from what I understand the 2nd book is wrapping up with the mid-season episode tonight. It's absolutely going to end the season in a cliffhanger with numerous ongoing threads that aren't even introduced yet. One of the show's producers said something to that effect on twitter
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May 17, 2018 05:08
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I think they said this season of The Expanse ends without a cliffhanger.
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May 17, 2018 05:11
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I didn’t get the expanse first time around, I just stuck to it for a few eps because all my friends told me it’s amazing. But then the space battle episode came and then I watched it all and also read the books (they’re perfect material for intercontinental flights). It’s good to have (had) both it and The Orville.
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My friends were all like, "it's so awesome, it's realistic space battles" and realistic space battles are boring. I really don't care why an Tie Fighter that can fly in both space and in atmosphere has wings that serve no purpose in either. It's fun to watch them fly around. It's not as much fun watching a prototype Mars warship spend several minutes using it's stabilizer jets to get into position for attack.
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May 17, 2018 12:53
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well now, that's ... an opinion. The space combat is fine. 
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Krispy Wafer posted:My friends were all like, "it's so awesome, it's realistic space battles" and realistic space battles are boring. Babylon 5 had the best TV space battles.
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May 17, 2018 13:12
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Krispy Wafer posted:My friends were all like, "it's so awesome, it's realistic space battles" and realistic space battles are boring. The Donnager battle in Expanse is very interesting in a similar way as Balance of Power/Wrath of Khan are.
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I've never seen The Expanse, and if they try for ~~realism~~ but the characters have gravity and aren't just floating around and peeing in spacecondoms I never will.
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drunken officeparty posted:I've never seen The Expanse, and if they try for ~~realism~~ but the characters have gravity and aren't just floating around and peeing in spacecondoms I never will. They don't have gravity. Space stations have spin and they even show different effects depending on how far from the center you are. Ships only have 'gravity' while under thrust. Otherwise, they are only walking around by using magnetic boots. Ships are explicitly designed as a tower so that the floors are perpendicular to the axis of thrust. About the only scifi contrivance they have with respect to gravity (outside of what the proto-molecule can do) is they apparently have a drug cocktail that helps with high-g effects. They actually have different color coding for the pages of the script depending on the level of gravity in the scene.
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May 17, 2018 14:00
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Cingulate posted:I'd say "The Expanse's realistic space battles are actually very tense and enjoyable", but you actually admit to liking Star Wars I will admit the space battles are a highlight of the show, but it still feels like a chore watching them. I do like how they handle depressurization, although it seems like they spend a lot of time shooting at non-critical parts of the ships in hopes of hitting something important. You'd think targeting systems could have advanced to the point where they'd just shoot out half the booster jets and let the enemy ship spin helplessly in circles like an one-armed guy in a canoe. Don't get me wrong, I liked The Expanse and I wish it was continuing, even if I haven't gotten around to watching any of this season's episodes on my DVR. I'm not surprised it's going away though. drunken officeparty posted:I've never seen The Expanse, and if they try for ~~realism~~ but the characters have gravity and aren't just floating around and peeing in spacecondoms I never will. They spend a lot of time dealing with gravity or the lack thereof.
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Krispy Wafer posted:You'd think targeting systems could have advanced to the point where they'd just shoot out half the booster jets But what about when... quote:even if I haven't gotten around to watching any of this season's episodes on my DVR. Oh.
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The Expanse and The Orville are both good shows that scratch completely different sci-fi itches for me, and I'm sad the former is ending and happy that the latter is returning. Well, those are my scorchingly hot takes, thanks for listening. 
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May 17, 2018 14:21
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bull3964 posted:They don't have gravity. Space stations have spin and they even show different effects depending on how far from the center you are. That sounds expensive! No wonder it was cancelled
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May 17, 2018 14:31
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Faithfulness to the books be damned. I am glad to hear they're going to try ending it properly, because I haven't watched it yet and a non-ending would discourage me from getting around to it.
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May 17, 2018 19:31
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I found it really hard to watch the expanse because I had to super strain to understand what the characters were saying and subtitles on Netflix are poo poo and enormous. I'm not sure what it is about them - but there's a person in Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix who is watching over Harry at the start of the film and her voice has the same effect on me. No matter how loud it is I've got to try so hard that I just can't be bothered with it.
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May 17, 2018 20:43
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Taear posted:I found it really hard to watch the expanse because I had to super strain to understand what the characters were saying and subtitles on Netflix are poo poo and enormous. That was Laurel
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Cingulate posted:I'd say "The Expanse's realistic space battles are actually very tense and enjoyable", but you actually admit to liking Star Wars "Punch it BB-8!" beats "surprise rear end in a top hat" every time.
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The Bloop posted:That was Laurel Or possibly Yanny.
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Taear posted:I found it really hard to watch the expanse because I had to super strain to understand what the characters were saying and subtitles on Netflix are poo poo and enormous. It's a great show if you care about the general idea of being someone who people refer to as "really smart" or if you get mad bone ons for Accuracy over Storytelling but it isn't really good if you like entertainment designed to entertain or tell stories.
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May 18, 2018 00:52
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I liked the expanse and I don't care what you think about it or about me I enjoyed it
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I hope Ed and Kelly are back together again when the show comes back. Probably the best written couple on television. e: I'm only sort of trolling. I think there's potential for something really good there. 3 DONG HORSE fucked around with this message at 06:16 on May 18, 2018 |
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Whalley posted:The show has awful sound mastering and no understanding of the importance of establishing shots; I've read the first two books and still got lost trying to follow what was going on. I agree it's confusingly filmed at times. Sydney Bottocks posted:The Expanse and The Orville are both good shows that scratch completely different sci-fi itches for me, and I'm sad the former is ending and happy that the latter is returning. Well, those are my scorchingly hot takes, thanks for listening.
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It's infinitely better when a show ends on it's own terms with a written and planned ending. Otherwise it just up and ends after a cliffhanger. Or they pull a castle and end with a cliffhanger followed by a thirty second clip of the main couple surrounded by their children.
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The Expanse is really good and has a bunch of really strong actors in it. It's a drat shame that none of them happen to be the lead though.
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Didnt the expanse get picked up by amazon since bezos has a major stiffy for it?
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:Didnt the expanse get picked up by amazon since bezos has a major stiffy for it? The deal isn't finalized but it's probably happening.
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Seth MacFarlane has publicly slammed Fox: https://twitter.com/SethMacFarlane/status/1008078997429710848 And he followed it up with a $2 million donation to National Public Radio and another $500K to his local public radio affiliate, presumably to help counteract Fox News: https://variety.com/2018/tv/news/seth-macfarlane-npr-fox-news-1202851215 No word on how mad Fox is about all this. I wouldn't expect them to cancel his show out of spite, but you never know...
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Well its also going to be seperated and sold off to either Disney or Comcast soon. Fox Entertainment has always been treated separately than Fox News and now they are going to be owned by different people, so this is about as safe a time as any for the Entertainment people to slam the News division.
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Powered Descent posted:Seth MacFarlane has publicly slammed Fox: I try to separate actors's craftwork and performance from their views on politics, but when they chose to run their asinine tantrums in public, it makes it difficult to isolate the former mentioned qualities. Please shut up Seth and do the show you've worked so hard to get on screen. Don't ruin this.
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R-Type posted:I try to separate actors's craftwork and performance from their views on politics, but when they chose to run their asinine tantrums in public, it makes it difficult to isolate the former mentioned qualities. Please shut up Seth and do the show you've worked so hard to get on screen. Don't ruin this. I kind of feel like standing up for your principals even if it might hurt you is the type of lesson Seth would have learned from the things that inspired his TV show, so
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swickles posted:Well its also going to be seperated and sold off to either Disney or Comcast soon. Fox Entertainment has always been treated separately than Fox News and now they are going to be owned by different people, so this is about as safe a time as any for the Entertainment people to slam the News division. Also, no amount of calling Fox News poo poo is really all that asinine
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R-Type posted:I try to separate actors's craftwork and performance from their views on politics, but when they chose to run their asinine tantrums in public, it makes it difficult to isolate the former mentioned qualities. Please shut up Seth and do the show you've worked so hard to get on screen. Don't ruin this. telling people not to listen only to fox news is an asinine tantrum...?
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R-Type posted:I try to separate actors's craftwork and performance from their views on politics, but when they chose to run their asinine tantrums in public, it makes it difficult to isolate the former mentioned qualities. Please shut up Seth and do the show you've worked so hard to get on screen. Don't ruin this. You realize that Seth is saying it's wrong to tell people not to critically think, to a official statement from Fox News that was basically telling people not to look into what other stations were reporting on because they were all reporting on the fact that the Trump Administration was separating undocumented workers from their children and putting the children in camps where they were forced to live in tents by themselves without heating or Cooling and on bare minimum of food and water. I mean, when the government is literally doing concentration camps and you're telling people not to listen to the news reporting on that, I think it's a good thing to call bullshit and tell people they should look into the matter because the fact we have literal concentration camps for children is hosed up.
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Seth MacFarlane is right.
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withak posted:Seth MacFarlane is right. hosed up
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