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MassRafTer posted:Chuck would have been the first in UFC. I think there's a chance Chuck never cleared a million in above-board pay. He was definitely their highest-paid fighter for awhile, but that was also at a time when the UFC's pay structure was considerably lower and they didn't yet confirm that anyone was getting PPV points period. He definitely SHOULD be the first, if he didn't clear a million for UFC 66 it'd be a loving crime. Snowden always said he heard from Rickson's people that Pride paid him a million, but Pride didn't disclose until they came to America so it's hard to know for sure and Rickson has this thing about inflating numbers.
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CarlCX posted:I think there's a chance Chuck never cleared a million in above-board pay. He was definitely their highest-paid fighter for awhile, but that was also at a time when the UFC's pay structure was considerably lower and they didn't yet confirm that anyone was getting PPV points period. He definitely SHOULD be the first, if he didn't clear a million for UFC 66 it'd be a loving crime. agree and lol
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CarlCX posted:I think there's a chance Chuck never cleared a million in above-board pay. He was definitely their highest-paid fighter for awhile, but that was also at a time when the UFC's pay structure was considerably lower and they didn't yet confirm that anyone was getting PPV points period. He definitely SHOULD be the first, if he didn't clear a million for UFC 66 it'd be a loving crime. Chuck definitely made over a million a fight on a couple of his bigger fights. The structure of those contracts came out in a lawsuit, maybe the Randy one?
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This is from the Chael-cast so who knows, but he indicates big headliners equal multi-million paydays.
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Captain Log posted:This is from the Chael-cast so who knows, but he indicates big headliners equal multi-million paydays. There are a few guys who have made $5 million or more. Based on the contract he was offered by UFC Eddie Alvarez lost out on 7 figures when he couldn't fight Bendo during his Bellator contract dispute. And that was just a guy semi main eventing a 900,000 buy show.
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MassRafTer posted:There are a few guys who have made $5 million or more. Based on the contract he was offered by UFC Eddie Alvarez lost out on 7 figures when he couldn't fight Bendo during his Bellator contract dispute. And that was just a guy semi main eventing a 900,000 buy show. Chael put a ton of emphasis on how valuable pay per view points but said for legal reasons he couldn't list figures. But I THINK he stated some athletes double and triple their payday with sponsors.
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Memento posted:Which fight best shows off Vitor Belfort in all of his pure-horsemeat special-sauce glory? Vitor vs Wanderlei
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drat. That Rockhold spinning poo poo is a sick KO.
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is chael's loss to anderson still the biggest choke a fighter had going into the end of the fight, ie they were ahead on scorecards and got finished in humiliating fashion
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STONE COLD 64 posted:is chael's loss to anderson still the biggest choke a fighter had going into the end of the fight, ie they were ahead on scorecards and got finished in humiliating fashion 
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May 27, 2018 00:21
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Mike Russow owned so much.
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I never noticed the polite hammerfist to demonstrate that Duffee was out cold.
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...and the pitch! posted:I never noticed the polite hammerfist to demonstrate that Duffee was out cold. That "polite" hammerfist put Duffee into the ICU. Hammerfist of doom.
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STONE COLD 64 posted:is chael's loss to anderson still the biggest choke a fighter had going into the end of the fight, ie they were ahead on scorecards and got finished in humiliating fashion No pun intended, it is indeed the biggest choke. Chael says he thinks about it, constantly, daily.
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...and the pitch! posted:I never noticed the polite hammerfist to demonstrate that Duffee was out cold. There's an edit somewhere that has mortal kombat sounds and russow as raiden. It yells finish him when he falls to the ground with a clown nose sound for the bop at the end but I'll be damned if I can find it right now.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBXSQ33LL7Q
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I can't believe that was 8 years ago, jesus.
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That's the best thing I've ever seen. I love how the hat flies off.
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It's just as good as I remember.
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I've been wondering this for years... in Tyson vs. Douglas, why did Tyson's corner not have an Enswell? Did they literally forget one? Did they not bother bringing one simply because they didn't think he would get punched that much? How the hell did that happen? Did his corner ever give an answer? Did those guys ever work again?
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IIRC from one of Tyson's bios, Don King successfully blocked out of Tyson's real support by that time, aided by Tyson's own truculence with his original Cus team staff. The people who were cornering Tyson for Douglas were all incompetent yes men with no real boxing experience. Don King was a penny pincher, so he threw in whoever would cost him the least.
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Yeah they were incompetent and Tyson had been training by getting the clap or something.
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Has there ever been interviews with them? Do we even know their names? I get saving money by hiring the most incompetent people you can ever find, but even you hire the shittiest carpenter, he's going to at least bring a hammer.
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Combat sports is a weird quasi professional industry. That level of incompetence is not something you find surprising after following combat sports for a few years.
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We all know about broken legs from checked kicks like Anderson Silva's leg exploding - but have there been mid fight instances of broken arms/hands/forearms from checked head or body kicks? We see guys block full force head kicks with their hands and forearms constantly but I don't remember any noticeable mid-fight injuries from it.
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Mr. Carlisle posted:We all know about broken legs from checked kicks like Anderson Silva's leg exploding - but have there been mid fight instances of broken arms/hands/forearms from checked head or body kicks? We see guys block full force head kicks with their hands and forearms constantly but I don't remember any noticeable mid-fight injuries from it. Wasn't there an arm break in the Liddell/Franklin fight? Did I dream that Randy got his arm broke vs Gonzaga?
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LobsterMobster posted:Wasn't there an arm break in the Liddell/Franklin fight? yeah both of these are correct. it's not really uncommon for it to happen. the franklin/chuck one and the early forrest griffin vs Edson Paredao are the ones i always think of
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 Paul Felder in the first round against Mike Perry at UFC 226 in July. I dont think he broke it elbowing PMP's head - I was pretty sure it was a checked kick, but could be wrong, and the image here from his manager's instagram seems to imply it was from an elbow. With the Spider leg break, I'm completely amazed that he managed to break both his fibula and tibia. I wondered at first if one of them broke and then the other let go when he tried to stand on it, but it really just went completely floppy after the checked kick. loving nightmare fuel.
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Overeem busted Ben Rothwell's arm on a blocked kick during their fight, but Rothwell powered through and won by KO anyway. Also I think back in K1 in 2010 Overeem did the same thing to Gokhan Saki but in that case the fight was stopped when the injury became too obvious to hide (people say Saki was winning on points when it was stopped). The most hideous case is of course the notorious and completely insane K1 grand prix in which Ernesto Hoost broke Jerome LeBanner's arm, then just repeatedly kicked him in the broken arm, causing him to scream in agony and fall to his knees again and again until the ref called the TKO.
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Schenck v. U.S. posted:Overeem busted Ben Rothwell's arm on a blocked kick during their fight, but Rothwell powered through and won by KO anyway. Also I think back in K1 in 2010 Overeem did the same thing to Gokhan Saki but in that case the fight was stopped when the injury became too obvious to hide (people say Saki was winning on points when it was stopped). Tyrone Sponge vs Saki TKZ popped his shoulder vs aldo theres a bunch that happened on a fight for the troops card as well
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SquirrelGrip posted:TKZ popped his shoulder vs aldo That was gnarly
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I appreciate all the answers and examples. I looked up a lot of them and especially with things like the Rothwell example drat - it seems insane that someone can break an arm during a fight and still gut through it to pull off a win. Adrenaline is a hell of a thing. Just thinking about how many fighters have broken a hand during a fight and continued to throw punches with it anyway makes me cringe on how much that had to have hurt.
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Cant believe i forgot until just now, but Jacare got his arm broke vs Roger Gracie in a bjj match and Souza still won in the end
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LobsterMobster posted:Cant believe i forgot until just now, but Jacare got his arm broke vs Roger Gracie in a bjj match and Souza still won in the end I think it was the IBJJF absolute division finals? Jacare basically tucked his hand into his belt and just carried on.
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Puckish Rogue posted:I think it was the IBJJF absolute division finals? Jacare basically tucked his hand into his belt and Fixed that for you
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It was 2004 mundials, and Jacare was up on points when he broke his arm so he just danced around and ran for the rest of the match while his arm either dangled or was tucked in. Still insane, though.
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butros posted:Fixed that for you he neutralized roger's offense, completely shutting him down, much like abu schaubi would later do vs cyborg abreu
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butros posted:Fixed that for you Considering Roger was one of the few who actively looked for subs at that time, you can't blame him.
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Mr. Carlisle posted:I appreciate all the answers and examples. I looked up a lot of them and especially with things like the Rothwell example drat - it seems insane that someone can break an arm during a fight and still gut through it to pull off a win. Adrenaline is a hell of a thing. Just thinking about how many fighters have broken a hand during a fight and continued to throw punches with it anyway makes me cringe on how much that had to have hurt. i have personal experience with this, with breaking a collarbone and finishing a bike race (it was something like an hour from where i crashed to the finish line). it takes the edge off your performance but its true you dont feel the pain too badly. frankly speaking a broken bone isnt too bad on the pain scale and luckily the roads were reasonably smooth or i might have cried like a little girl. if a fighter is throwing punches with a broken hand or something its probably just to try and hide it from his opponent, theres no way they will be throwing anything they intend to land with it
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