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facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

Taintrunner posted:

I am that guy. Oh gently caress me that was so good.

That line was hyper-telegraphed and perfect because of it, but the best setup was Mei being introduced to Amos.

Hardass motherfucker looked like he saw a ghost when Mei said "hi".

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MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Mu Zeta posted:

I never disliked Bobby or Amos, I never had preconceived notions about the characters. With Holden I only noticed that the actor didn't have a lot of range.

From what I gather Steven Strait is doing a good job at portraying the character as he exists in the books

Phenotype
Jul 24, 2007

You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance.



Yeah, I always saw him as basically McNulty without the charisma. Giving a poo poo when it ain't his turn to give a poo poo.

theCalamity
Oct 23, 2010

Cry Havoc and let slip the Hogs of War

Phenotype posted:

Yeah, I always saw him as basically McNulty without the charisma. Giving a poo poo when it ain't his turn to give a poo poo.

Is it too late to get McNulty to captain the Roci? I want to see him crash the ship and then immediately crash it again in the same exact way. Amos is basically Chris Partlow now that I think about it.

Svaha
Oct 4, 2005

Phenotype posted:

I thought it worked really well to have those handful of "example" Belters front and center in the first few episodes though, even if they couldn't go all the way, it was one of the things that got me into the show. They also had that plotline where Avasarala was torturing the Belter terrorist where they emphasized that he couldn't even tolerate Earth gravity anymore, and you really got the sense that this was a population apart from "normal" humans, who were all going to look more and more like the "example" Belters within a few generations.
There are only so many skinny lanky tall people who will show up to a given casting call, i guess.

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

Svaha posted:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ddfr_cgVQAAwyVD.jpg
This is the third message from the crew saying that the teardown was halted, so I'm taking it as true.
They took Avarserala's office apart before it was stopped because of "reasons"

Having worked as a Theatre tech in the past, I can tell you that this is not a common or cheap thing to do.
Something is happening.

Here's hoping.

Strait is a fine Holden. I don't doubt part of his casting came from looking kind of like Jon Snow but Strait's a pretty effective straight man for the rest of the cast to bounce off. And he's great when he gets to be all shouty and angry like he was with Mao in the last episode.

Svaha
Oct 4, 2005

Phenotype posted:

Yeah, I always saw him as basically McNulty without the charisma. Giving a poo poo when it ain't his turn to give a poo poo.

He's basically white privilege personified at the start; barging around self righteously like he knows the right decision for everyone. I think the books do a bit of a better job showing how badly he hosed up with the whole mars situation, how he comes to the realization that he hosed up, and strives to improve.

Most people he encounters still think he's an idealistic idiot though. We got a bit of that when they first get to Tycho.

Milky Moor posted:

Strait is a fine Holden. I don't doubt part of his casting came from looking kind of like Jon Snow but Strait's a pretty effective straight man for the rest of the cast to bounce off. And he's great when he gets to be all shouty and angry like he was with Mao in the last episode.
Yeah he's definitely not meant to be your traditional square-jawed steely-eyed spaceship captain. It's such a trope at this point, I think Holden throws people a bit.
It's odd, I seem to remember him having some of the best one-liners in the books. Not as much in the show.

Svaha fucked around with this message at 05:33 on May 19, 2018

Aoi
Sep 12, 2017

Perpetually a Pain.

tooterfish posted:

It isn't a world colloquially though.... that's literally what it is.

I'm not sure why people aren't wrapping their heads around this tbh (other than inner chauvinism!). World doesn't just mean planet Earth.

Hm, am I wrong on my astronomy terminology? I just meant that Ganymede is a moon, and figured "world" was a synonym for "planet", and thus not technically applicable.

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

Pork Pro
Maybe we are overselling the :shobon: moment and Prax has become so jaded that he literally meant "the world." As in, Amos is his best friend on Io...

:haw:

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

Madurai posted:

It is now a national scriptwriting emergency to produce a good role for a giant Samoan boxer lady.


Samoan's only come in giant, so it's redundant.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Rocksicles posted:

Samoan's only come in giant, so it's redundant.

I wouldn't go so far as to call the brother fat

Enigma
Jun 10, 2003
Raetus Deus Est.

Maybe my recollection is poor, but how did Fred Johnson end up in charge of Tycho? It's this massive, historic engineering project from a megacorp, and Johnson, a former soldier with zero engineering experience is somehow the station's defacto head? Is it solely due to the OPA ties?

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
Blending in like it ain't no thang

Svaha posted:

He's basically white privilege personified at the start; barging around self righteously like he knows the right decision for everyone. I think the books do a bit of a better job showing how badly he hosed up with the whole mars situation, how he comes to the realization that he hosed up, and strives to improve.

Most people he encounters still think he's an idealistic idiot though. We got a bit of that when they first get to Tycho.

One thing that's lost in the translation from book to screen is Chrisjen Avasarala's complete disdain for Holden from page 1 and forward of the second book. She sees he is on Ganymede and literally orders a UN kidnap team to go grab him because she can't conceive of a reason he would show up there that wouldn't just make everything there worse. Holden even grows a beard as a "disguise" when on Ganymede and some of the sickest burns in that book are her making fun of his pathetic pube-beard.

Svaha
Oct 4, 2005

Enigma posted:

Maybe my recollection is poor, but how did Fred Johnson end up in charge of Tycho? It's this massive, historic engineering project from a megacorp, and Johnson, a former soldier with zero engineering experience is somehow the station's defacto head? Is it solely due to the OPA ties?
Pretty much. After Anderson station, he spent several years in the belt trying to drink himself to death and occasionally getting into fights with OPA members. Somehow that translated to a relationship with Dawes who "pulled him up out of the gutter" He spent many years after that working to improve working and living conditions for belters. Several years after that, he showed up during a Belter revolt against the earth-mars coalition and was instrumental in resolving it peacefully. From there he got a leadership role in the OPA.

There are a lot of years of hard work between Anderson station and him becoming the OPA administrator of a major station, is what i'm saying. That maybe doesn't come across as clearly in the show.

I actually haven't read the book about him yet. Maybe someone here who has can offer better insight.

E: oh right the engineering thing. The company he founded (Tycho Manufacturing) is the same one that first spun up Ceres for artificial gravity, an unprecedented engineering feat at the time. That's why the Mormons came to him to build the Navoo, another unprecedented engineering feat.

Svaha fucked around with this message at 06:11 on May 19, 2018

ptkfvk
Apr 30, 2013

i think beat up holden has been doing a good job. when it was just his messed up leg he looked stupid. after he got beat up and killed that guy his face really rounded out and he seemed less annoying.

this show is cool. amos is cool.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



One tiny detail I picked up was you could see the outline of Holden's subdermal radiation treatment device (it was triangular on his shoulder) with the interface port. I had more or less completely forgotten about it, but seeing that reminded me he has to be treated continuously for the rest of life to not develop cancer.

The attention to detail and continuity is ratcheted to an insane level.

Snuffman
May 21, 2004

twistedmentat posted:

A woman wearing a Expanse Season 3 coat came into my work tonight, and I told her I hope they get good news soon. She got visibly choked up and told me "I've seen all the love online, but hearing it in real life is amazing. I will have to tell my boss". We talked a bit and she told me how everyone really hopes things works out because everyone who works on the show puts so much love and effort into it, and everyones been so proud. I told her how much I loved it and how I've introduced a lot of my friends who have also come to love it.

D'awww. :3:

Reminds me of the time the actress who played Tori on BSG walked into the Starbuck's that my friend's wife worked at and she just gushed about how much she loved BSG.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Proteus Jones posted:

One tiny detail I picked up was you could see the outline of Holden's subdermal radiation treatment device (it was triangular on his shoulder) with the interface port. I had more or less completely forgotten about it, but seeing that reminded me he has to be treated continuously for the rest of life to not develop cancer.

The attention to detail and continuity is ratcheted to an insane level.

Also Holden's busted nose and Alex's all over bruising from the Martian fight persisting over episodes while fading/healing with time, rather than just disappearing between two.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Fred is noticeably larger this season, business has clearly been good on Tycho station of late.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Lotta time eating Bortus' honorable snack bowls.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Grand Fromage posted:

Lotta time eating Bortus' honorable snack bowls.

Also I love that he's in both shows and playing such absolutely different characters.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Grand Fromage posted:

Lotta time eating Bortus' honorable snack bowls.

I was more thinking not enough time in the boxing gym

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

They can't afford skinny belters so they just have to plump up the earthers.

Pizza Segregationist
Jul 18, 2006

EimiYoshikawa posted:

Hm, am I wrong on my astronomy terminology? I just meant that Ganymede is a moon, and figured "world" was a synonym for "planet", and thus not technically applicable.

In astronomy maybe, but as far as English in general goes "world" can mean a group of people (e.g. "the western world") or it can also mean "everything that exists"

404notfound
Mar 5, 2006

stop staring at me

Baronjutter posted:

Also I love that he's in both shows and playing such absolutely different characters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp4Hp_nV41k&t=5s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3axVH37F0ds

1000 Brown M and Ms
Oct 22, 2008

F:\DL>quickfli 4-clowns.fli

MrWilderheap posted:

In astronomy maybe, but as far as English in general goes "world" can mean a group of people (e.g. "the western world") or it can also mean "everything that exists"

As someone who has studied astronomy at university level (although I'm not an astronomer), I don't believe 'world' has a proper scientific/astronomical definition. If you mean planet you say planet, if you mean moon or dwarf planet you'd say that.

Sankara
Jul 18, 2008


Cutty deserves to be in charge of a space station. :colbert:

Capn Jobe
Jan 18, 2003

That's right. Here it is. But it's like you always have compared the sword, the making of the sword, with the making of the character. Cuz the stronger, the stronger it will get, right, the stronger the steel will get, with all that, and the same as with the character.
Soiled Meat

Doctor Reynolds posted:

Cutty deserves to be in charge of a space station. :colbert:

I can totally picture Johnson macking on all his subordinates' moms. Checks out.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Svaha posted:

E: oh right the engineering thing. The company he founded (Tycho Manufacturing) is the same one that first spun up Ceres for artificial gravity, an unprecedented engineering feat at the time. That's why the Mormons came to him to build the Navoo, another unprecedented engineering feat.

Johnson didn’t found Tycho. It existed for generations before him. He’s just its hot new CEO.

Platystemon fucked around with this message at 08:12 on May 19, 2018

Toast Museum
Dec 3, 2005

30% Iron Chef
He's not even the CEO. He just oversees Tycho Station. It's a huge company with assets all over the system.

Eiba
Jul 26, 2007


In what world does "world" just mean "planet"? :psyduck:

This is such a weird discussion.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Toast Museum posted:

He's not even the CEO. He just oversees Tycho Station. It's a huge company with assets all over the system.

Okay, so he’s the Bishop of Rome

Oscar aint no Slouch
Apr 29, 2014
Albeit a bit poetic world is a synonym for planet. I've heard and read it many times especially in science fiction. "All these worlds are yours"

But in this case I don't think that's what Prax meant.

Aoi
Sep 12, 2017

Perpetually a Pain.
I didn't really think that's what he meant either, and I don't think it's weird Belters would use "world" regularly in colloquial speech, I just thought it was an interesting thing to maybe talk about, like, more broadly, the evolution of language in space, for two or three posts. I didn't think it'd turn into...this. :smith:

Svaha
Oct 4, 2005

Platystemon posted:

Johnson didn’t found. Tycho. It existed for generations before him. He’s just its hot new CEO.

oops. I guess Johnson isn't 150+ years old then? :v: Been a while since i read the early books.

Toast Museum posted:

He's not even the CEO. He just oversees Tycho Station. It's a huge company with assets all over the system.
Right. I think i should not be the one answering book questions because my memory is clearly garbage.

Svaha fucked around with this message at 08:20 on May 19, 2018

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Platystemon posted:

Okay, so he’s the Bishop of Rome

He's more like the dual role of Director of Operations, and Union Boss

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

I still don't quite get Fred's role. He's set him self up like the absolute owner of the station and is trying to form a nation out of it yet it's just the manager of a franchise. Is the corporation super pro-belt or something? How aren't earth and mars just flexing some economic muscle to get him out?

upgunned shitpost
Jan 21, 2015

Fred is what's generally known as a 'warlord'. Tycho could send him a letter of termination, but good fuckin' luck getting they poo poo back.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Baronjutter posted:

I still don't quite get Fred's role. He's set him self up like the absolute owner of the station and is trying to form a nation out of it yet it's just the manager of a franchise. Is the corporation super pro-belt or something? How aren't earth and mars just flexing some economic muscle to get him out?

Because Belters are the highly specialised, naturalised, and experienced work force, and the corporation doesn't have any inner scabs that could do any of the work as effectively, or to the same time table, for the same money. They treat the Belters like poo poo, but if the Belters suddenly hosed off and said do it yourself, Earth and Mars would grind to a halt.

NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 08:58 on May 19, 2018

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Sankara
Jul 18, 2008


Workers of the world unite, you have nothing to lose but your chains, etc

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