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Man, a new Rome is DEFINITELY not what I was expecting.
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Grey Hunter posted:As a Rome nut, I'll get it. I expect running up to the death of Augustus for the base game, with the dlc expanding it through the fall of he empire. That way hey can get the ruin mechanics in when they have had the base game out for a bit. According the OP on the paradox forums: paradox posted:Paradox Development Studio is happy to announce Imperator: Rome, an upcoming grand strategy game set in the classical world from the glory days of Athens to the establishment of the Roman Empire four centuries later. Not just Rome but also the Peloponnesian war, Alexander, Ashoka Maurya
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May 19, 2018 11:38
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 The provinces are so tiny and the map goes from Europe to the far edge of India  The map projection they've got on the minimap feels great and I really don't know why. From the very limited amount of information you can see from screenshots it does look a lot like EU:Rome, moreso than I was expecting. And there's a lot of EU4 influence already visible there. Some kind of provincial trading system with trade routes, governors assigned to individual provinces, the old population system which worked kind of like development (though there are 4 types now). Manpower, stability, and what looks like possibly monarch point analogues at the top of the screen. Per-province building limits. Culture and religion given on a per-province level which makes me intrigued how this is going to work with pops apparently having their own culture and religion now? E: Forgot to mention the obvious attempt to add some variety to EU-style combat with different tactics and unit types, which was also an EU:Rome thing. RabidWeasel fucked around with this message at 11:51 on May 19, 2018 |
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May 19, 2018 11:40
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:According the OP on the paradox forums: So the Imperium Universalis Mod for EU4?
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May 19, 2018 11:45
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Guessing the hand grabbing the money will represent corruption, which was a very real problem in the Roman Republic. Oh wait it’s holding a crown? I guess fame?
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May 19, 2018 11:49
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BigglesSWE posted:Guessing the hand grabbing the money will represent corruption, which was a very real problem in the Roman Republic. Yeah IIRC fame was a character stat in EU:Rome as well, it basically meant that you could keep your generals super loyal by throwing triumphs for them but eventually they'd decide that actually they're the ones wearing the big boy pants and start a civil war. And their troops become personally loyal to them so you actually lost a big chunk of your army when this happened.
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May 19, 2018 11:53
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Paradox, please abandon this marble look - it looks like some cheap Mediterranean resort. Proper Roman style is garish colors everywhere. Actually, this goes for all ancient civilizations I think, they loving loved that poo poo.RabidWeasel posted:The provinces are so tiny and the map goes from Europe to the far edge of India RabidWeasel posted:The map projection they've got on the minimap feels great and I really don't know why.
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May 19, 2018 11:58
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I'm cautiously optimistic. They haven't confirmed yet if it's possible to form Byzantium
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May 19, 2018 12:05
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Gorn Myson posted:I'm cautiously optimistic. Can I form Serbia?
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May 19, 2018 12:07
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Given pdoxs thing lately, I look forward to the third expansion, Wanking the Elephant, to also add a playable Not-AoM Atlantis
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May 19, 2018 12:11
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Gorn Myson posted:I'm cautiously optimistic. The first paradox game where forming byzantium is a failure rather than an achievement.
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May 19, 2018 12:23
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:According the OP on the paradox forums: OK Johan just confirmed that the game starts in 450 AVC so no Peloponnesian War or Alexander. Rome starts as the underdog smack bang in the middle of the Samnite wars, the diodochi are at their height of their power and the Mauryan dynasty has just begun.
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May 19, 2018 12:49
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The most important question is wheter we get dual consulships this time or not. C'mon Paradox. Have they said anything about release date?
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May 19, 2018 12:52
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Rome 2, hell yeah!
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May 19, 2018 12:54
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So it's really Rome then. But hey, this could be pretty cool still! Would love to get a chance to play as Rome and burn Carthage into ashes! Gorn Myson posted:I'm cautiously optimistic. Splitting the Roman Empire better be in the game! axeil fucked around with this message at 13:00 on May 19, 2018 |
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May 19, 2018 12:55
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The first Paradox game to use a map projection that doesn't result in a wonky middle east.
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May 19, 2018 12:58
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:OK Johan just confirmed that the game starts in 450 AVC so no Peloponnesian War or Alexander. Rome starts as the underdog smack bang in the middle of the Samnite wars, the diodochi are at their height of their power and the Mauryan dynasty has just begun. I wonder what fudging they'll do for the places that we don't really know anything about and who will get really loving mad about it?
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May 19, 2018 13:01
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Obfuscation posted:Have they said anything about release date? NoNotTheMindProbe posted:OK Johan just confirmed that the game starts in 450 AVC Obfuscation posted:The most important question is wheter we get dual consulships this time or not. C'mon Paradox.
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May 19, 2018 13:02
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Taear posted:I wonder what fudging they'll do for the places that we don't really know anything about and who will get really loving mad about it? Making the tribes based in Sweden overpowered and having more detail than Rome.
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May 19, 2018 13:06
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Taear posted:I wonder what fudging they'll do for the places that we don't really know anything about and who will get really loving mad about it? Just to gently caress with everyone if you somehow conquer the whole map they'll have the aliens spawn from HOI2 except it's a real country now and happens 100% of the time.
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May 19, 2018 13:11
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The new board games aren't on BGG yet. Stop playing battletech and get onto that Fred Wester 
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May 19, 2018 13:12
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I wanna get drunk with Mitch Gitelman.
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May 19, 2018 13:17
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:The new board games aren't on BGG yet. Stop playing battletech and get onto that Fred Wester The crusader kings one sure has a tiny map, I'm disappointed. I might still back it but I don't know how often I'd get it to the table.
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May 19, 2018 13:23
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Just got caught up on all the reveals. Lots of good things all around, though provisionally I'm most interested in the Age of Wonders thing, at least until I get more details about how exactly Rome will work.
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May 19, 2018 13:41
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Oh by the way Sparta or bust  I'm guessing they're going to fill in Germania and Hispania. They can't leave that blank, right?
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May 19, 2018 14:02
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I only read this latest page. Stoked for Imperator Rome. What were the other announcements?
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May 19, 2018 14:08
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Looking forward to the first DLC - Imperat Or Rome: Sunset Invasion
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May 19, 2018 14:10
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gradenko_2000 posted:I only read this latest page. Stoked for Imperator Rome. What were the other announcements? New Hearts of Iron expansion focusing on naval warfare, new sci-fi Age of Wonders game set in the aftermath of a collapsed galactic empire, new CK2 DLC beefing up religion in general and Christianity specifically, and I'm not clear on the details on this but Stellaris is removing tiles apparently? So basically everything but EU got something, unless you count Imperator as "EU Rome."
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May 19, 2018 14:12
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Top Hats Monthly posted:Oh by the way Sparta or bust EU:Rome had colonial mechanics and similarly had a map which was half empty at the start of the game. Not sure how similar it will be but essentially your provinces leaked "civilisation" into uncolonised provinces which would make the locals get pissed off and try to raid you, if they succeded in seiging down your provinces then they hosed up your civilisation value which stopped you from spreading it into neighbouring provinces. A province at 100 civilisation could be turned into a colonised province by shoving an army there for a while, or something like that. It's been a long rear end time since I played EU:R.
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Tomn posted:New Hearts of Iron expansion focusing on naval warfare, new sci-fi Age of Wonders game set in the aftermath of a collapsed galactic empire, new CK2 DLC beefing up religion in general and Christianity specifically, and I'm not clear on the details on this but Stellaris is removing tiles apparently? So basically everything but EU got something, unless you count Imperator as "EU Rome." EU is also getting a DLC, EU4: Dharma
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May 19, 2018 14:13
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gradenko_2000 posted:I only read this latest page. Stoked for Imperator Rome. What were the other announcements? Imperator Rome CK2: Holy Fury (another pagan-focused one, maybe specific to the Baltic states area? EU4: Dharma (India again) HOI4: Man the Guns (naval expansion + alternate history paths for the Americas) Stellaris: Distant Stars (is coming out on Tuesday) Victoria 3: still doesn't exist
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canepazzo posted:EU is also getting a DLC, EU4: Dharma Oops, missed that. RabidWeasel posted:EU:Rome had colonial mechanics and similarly had a map which was half empty at the start of the game. Not sure how similar it will be but essentially your provinces leaked "civilisation" into uncolonised provinces which would make the locals get pissed off and try to raid you, if they succeded in seiging down your provinces then they hosed up your civilisation value which stopped you from spreading it into neighbouring provinces. A province at 100 civilisation could be turned into a colonised province by shoving an army there for a while, or something like that. It's been a long rear end time since I played EU:R. For what it's worth, back when Wiz was a modder he HATED the colonization mechanic in EU: Rome and one of the big things his mod did was fill the empty wilderness with tribes. If he has any hand in EU Rome it's an open question how much of the colonization mechanic will be retained.
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RabidWeasel posted:How the gently caress do you make a CK boardgame I guess it'll be kinda like Feif 1429?
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Top Hats Monthly posted:Oh by the way Sparta or bust Hispania definitely was full of stateletes at the time. They're probably just undiscovered countries now, like the start of an EU game. Not sure what they'll do with places like Germania at this time, it's just tribal.
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May 19, 2018 14:49
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Tomn posted:Oops, missed that. The map we've seen so far is significantly less empty than the default EU: Rome map was (which had like 3/4 of Gaul as stateless). Johan is the lead developer on this one anyway. Another interesting thing I noticed (from the below screenshots) is that there are quite prominent roads on map linking cities together, which might suggest that you actually have to build them and that they are meaningful. Note that in this image there are only roads in Roman territory but they also don't connect to every visible Roman city.   E: I just noticed also that the province panel in the second screenshot clearly shows "0 of 0" trade routes for the selected province which also quite clearly is not connected to the road network, so I'm calling this out now as being a civ-like gameplay mechanic where you have to connect your provinces together with roads to get trade benefits. RabidWeasel fucked around with this message at 15:14 on May 19, 2018 |
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May 19, 2018 15:00
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Tomn posted:Oops, missed that. It's Johan's baby, it sounds like, I think Wiz is still full time on Stellaris.
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May 19, 2018 15:02
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On one hand I can't help but be a little disappointed that it's not Vic 3. On the other hand   Anyway my one hope is that the senate mechanics are back and that the Populists are obnoxious. If the Populists are not sufficiently obnoxious I will make a mod that makes them so
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May 19, 2018 15:04
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its nice that naval warfare in hoi4 is getting looked at but the communist countries are also desperately in need of an update
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Paradox Grand Strategy: Still Waiting On Victoria III
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the interior of hispania was not a mysterious black box otherwise, this is p rad
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