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We watched The Skydivers last night and as soon as I saw Coleman Francis in the credits i was like... oh... oh no... this is not good. I've never seen this one before but I remember Red Zone Cuba; a friend of mine just loves that one and I've probably seen it at least 3-4 times. While the movie was really, really bad and utterly pointless, it wasn't a terrible experience with the riffing - in fact, better than some I've seen.
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I still contend with Red Zone Cuba that Francis came up with the last line "Griffin ran all the way to hell... with a penny, and a broken cigarette" first, then worked his way backwards to get to that point. It just stinks of "Isn't this line so incredibly deep?"
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May 19, 2018 15:41
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Flag on the moon. How did it get there?
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May 19, 2018 15:49
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May 19, 2018 15:54
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:While the movie was really, really bad and utterly pointless it had two points coleman francis got to play with light aircraft and he got to film that gigantic blonde woman at the tarmac dance
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May 19, 2018 16:01
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A man comes to town, impacts no one, and leaves.
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May 19, 2018 16:05
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Sanzuo posted:I Accuse My Parents has to be at least a top 10 episode for me. God this is just fuckin funny the whole way through. I really like that one too and someone said they didn't like it a while ago and I was trying to think of some good quotes to defend it. It's a great episode but I think it's hard to make a lot of the riffs funny without the context. Like the Edward G Robinson style gangster impressions, the duck noises when people go in and out of the apartment, the constant stupidity of Jimmy... and the goofy hat singer. "Showed us the kiss way to the promised land" 
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May 19, 2018 16:18
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boner confessor posted:i'm glad that mary jo, kevin, and bill are so game to be guest stars (probably easier to schedule than mark hamill) and iirc the main reason mike didn't come is because he's busy with his own thing now? Paul was also in the last episode as his Observer character. And some of the music was done by Charlie Erickson, writer of the original theme music.
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May 19, 2018 16:46
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Dixville posted:Flag on the moon. How did it get there?  "Pictures of the moon." "Nude."
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May 19, 2018 17:16
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I Accuse My Parents is great because of how flawed the central premise is. Nothing that happens to Jimmy is the fault of his parents. He turns to a life of crime simply because he's trying to impress a girl who seems like she would be into him anyway without his big spending.
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May 19, 2018 17:47
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All of the 'bad teens' films are amongst my faves -- High School Big Shot and Teenaged Crimewave also being highlights. Crimewave especially interests me, because the actress playing Terry (whom no one will ever touch, being dirt) is exactly the same age as my mum (likewise as Jimmy's character in Accuse is roughly my dad's age at the time the film was made) -- it's more the fashions and music that make me realise that my parents were once teens and stuff.  Plus my mom loved goofy films like them as a kid herself, and probably saw a number of the older MST3K ones in the cinema originally!
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May 19, 2018 18:16
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muscles like this! posted:I Accuse My Parents is great because of how flawed the central premise is. Nothing that happens to Jimmy is the fault of his parents. He turns to a life of crime simply because he's trying to impress a girl who seems like she would be into him anyway without his big spending. It's not that he even knowingly turned to crime, but rather that he was such a gullible simpleton that he thought nothing was wrong with delivering packages for Gangster McCriminal at three in the morning.
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May 19, 2018 18:39
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Sydney Bottocks posted:
"Come up here where it's really obscene!"
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May 19, 2018 19:45
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Sydney Bottocks posted:It's not that he even knowingly turned to crime, but rather that he was such a gullible simpleton that he thought nothing was wrong with delivering packages for Gangster McCriminal at three in the morning. Well, he does knowingly write a bad check, which is why he gets the shady job.
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May 19, 2018 20:17
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DivisionPost posted:Well, the thing is...there’s already a baseline. Here’s an interesting host segment from Future War that Mike presided over:  Funny that you pick that out, and not Mike's hurtful mockery of facial deformities:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherubism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIbPV1hMCHI But I guess you think it's okay to laugh at people for their medical problems, you insensitive cow! Yes, this is a joke post if you couldn't tell EDIT: Okay, to contribute something besides fake shitposting, the Coleman Francis trilogy has a weird...miasma about them that I can't look away from. They genuinely feel like movies made by manic depressives, for manic depressives. OTOH most of the "Bad Teen" films just blur together in my head. I Accuse and Big Shot manage to bring something unique to the table, but other than that it's probably the genre of film that I can't sit through even with the riffs. SirPhoebos fucked around with this message at 21:28 on May 19, 2018 |
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May 19, 2018 21:17
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muscles like this! posted:Well, he does knowingly write a bad check, which is why he gets the shady job. Oh true, I'd forgotten that bit. Kids, let this be a lesson to you: kiting checks inevitably leads to acting as a runner for 1940s gangsters. 
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May 19, 2018 22:11
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SirPhoebos posted:
"There was no such thing as 'clinical depression' before this film." Also I'd argue that Coleman's films were less manic depressive and more just straight up misanthropic. I think a lot of film people (directors, writers, producers) have a general disdain for people and their overall intelligence, and Coleman Francis even more markedly so.
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May 19, 2018 22:15
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Sydney Bottocks posted:"There was no such thing as 'clinical depression' before this film." I truly want to be believe Francis was a misunderstood genius and, given enough money, would have made a cinematic masterpiece.
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May 19, 2018 23:34
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muscles like this! posted:I Accuse My Parents is great because of how flawed the central premise is. Nothing that happens to Jimmy is the fault of his parents. He turns to a life of crime simply because he's trying to impress a girl who seems like she would be into him anyway without his big spending. The end bit where Crow and Server want a hamburger sandwich and french fries potato garnish is a particular favorite of mine. "Joel, you magnificent bastard, I read your menu!"
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May 19, 2018 23:57
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I love High School Big Shot because it starts with Marv writing a paper for a classmate, which results a robbery/multiple homicide and a suicide.SirPhoebos posted:EDIT: Okay, to contribute something besides fake shitposting, the Coleman Francis trilogy has a weird...miasma about them that I can't look away from. They genuinely feel like movies made by manic depressives, for manic depressives.
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May 19, 2018 23:57
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I believe that there was an interview with Tony Cardoza talking about how Coleman was a very shallow man and things happen in his movies because that's what he wants to see.
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Good lord, I stay off the forums with a concussion for three days and I come back to 223 new posts in this thread. Anyway, has anyone else seen Brandon's Cult Movie Reviews? I don't think I've ever seen it mentioned in this thread. I stumbled across it one day a while back and the next thing I knew it was 2 hours later and I had watched like 5 or 6 episodes. It's a good partner for MST3k; he's actually reviewed a few movies that have been done on MST3k, and he gives shout-outs to them when he does. He's a fun watch, I guess is what I'm saying.
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I Accuse My Parents, The Beatniks, Girls Town, all of those "drat kids!" movies are among the top 20 of all MST3K eps
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precision posted:I Accuse My Parents, The Beatniks, Girls Town, all of those "drat kids!" movies are among the top 20 of all MST3K eps Girls Town is creepy as gently caress with the Paul Anka subplot. Where a girl is crushing super hard on Anka and he spends the movie stringing her along.
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Edward Mass posted:Season 12 needs a '60s/'70s biker movie. Easy Rider 2 
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Paul Anka's beefy security nuns step in.
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precision posted:Easy Rider 2 Kinga: Your movie today is Easy Rider- Max: "Two! Easy Rider 2! Ha ha, you thought it was gonna be the classic original featuring Jack Nicholson and Dennis Hopper but-" Kinga: "YES MAX, THAT WAS THE JOKE!"
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Zamboni_Rodeo posted:Good lord, I stay off the forums with a concussion for three days Quick! Watch Beast of Yucca Flats and tell us if the movie makes any more sense with a head injury! But seriously, best wishes to your brainmeats. Concussions suck; I got a big one a few years ago in a bike crash.
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Hell, watch Easy Rider and see if that is any good, I always figured you had to drop acid to enjoy more than 10 minutes of that show
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Mister Kingdom posted:I truly want to be believe Francis was a misunderstood genius and, given enough money, would have made a cinematic masterpiece. I would unironically love to read a SMG appraisal of e.g. Red Zone Cuba hailing it as art of the highest caliber.
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zeal posted:it had two points The former is relevant to me. I showed a pilot friend Time Chasers because hey, light aircraft like she's being trained on. She was livid by the end. Lots of angry 'airports do not work that way' ranting ensued. The lack of any headsets in the plane especially got her going. And I think a part of her soul died when the strangely prominent 'Cessna' logo showed up (in the hangar office, while they're trying to steal back the Time Transport) So obviously I need more episodes that feature light aircraft to share Aside from Skydivers, are there any other episodes that fit the bill?
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If she's up on her aviation history The Starfighters might be fun. Edit: The jet in the movie was notoriously unsafe, mainly for the reasons that they mention as pluses. Its wings were too short and thin to actually hold it up and the plane crashed like crazy. muscles like this! fucked around with this message at 03:47 on May 20, 2018 |
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Paingod556 posted:So obviously I need more episodes that feature light aircraft to share San Francisco International has a kid easily stealing a light plane and then being able to fly it with radio instructions. Also, security at the airport is terrible in general, with people sneaking onto the field and someone bringing a gun into the airport and on a plane.
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SirPhoebos posted:
I have no memory of this segment. Please tell me it was a Robert Z'Dar movie.
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Rev. Bleech_ posted:I have no memory of this segment. Please tell me it was a Robert Z'Dar movie. It was a Robert Z'Dar movie.
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muscles like this! posted:If she's up on her aviation history The Starfighters might be fun. That ones a favorite. I've shown it to people mostly for Crows PC. And I know about the Lawndart. Though most of it's rep was the decision to strap bombs to it and the Germans using a plane with a terrible glide ratio and landing approach angle in a nation with runways surrounded by mountains and or forests. The wings were fine- sharp wings means sharp turns Action Jacktion posted:San Francisco International has a kid easily stealing a light plane and then being able to fly it with radio instructions. Also, security at the airport is terrible in general, with people sneaking onto the field and someone bringing a gun into the airport and on a plane. Oh god that's perfect.
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Davros1 posted:I still contend with Red Zone Cuba that Francis came up with the last line "Griffin ran all the way to hell... with a penny, and a broken cigarette" first, then worked his way backwards to get to that point. It just stinks of "Isn't this line so incredibly deep?" It's not at all deep, but it is a good line in a pulp fiction cover kind of way. And Carradine's delivery really sells it. But yeah, the movie itself is typical Francis, i.e., he's the only one who understands or cares what's happening on screen.
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Senior Woodchuck posted:It's not at all deep, but it is a good line in a pulp fiction cover kind of way. And Carradine's delivery really sells it. Oh, I know it's not deep, but you can imagine Francis thinking it was poignant as hell when he came up with it.
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