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Megazver posted:Stoneshard is a modern take on the classic turn-based roguelike, a bit like Dungeons of Dredmor that's more Darkest Dungeons-flavored. It's by the devs of 12 is better than 6 which was also crowdfunded and came out to be a fairly decent budget Hotline Miami-like. They're also my fellow Russkies and they probably need the cash, so pls bck ktnx. Man I LOOOVE the art here and the aesthetic but I do not really like classic rogue games.
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Zaphod42 posted:Not only is it copying cuphead's style, the name is loving steamboat Why do you guys care though? People rip off popular games all the time. As long as they're not ripping off assets/character designs, who cares?
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May 21, 2018 05:33
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TOOT BOOT posted:Why do you guys care though? People rip off popular games all the time. As long as they're not ripping off assets/character designs, who cares? This, and also the game doesn't sound like it plays like Cuphead at all
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May 21, 2018 05:35
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TOOT BOOT posted:Why do you guys care though? People rip off popular games all the time. As long as they're not ripping off assets/character designs, who cares? If your ripoff doesn’t look good then prepare for mockery.
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May 21, 2018 05:38
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Zaphod42 posted:Man I LOOOVE the art here and the aesthetic but I do not really like classic rogue games. You could try the prologue and see if maybe the gameplay clicks for you in this one, I suppose.
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May 21, 2018 08:52
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Zaphod42 posted:Not only is it copying cuphead's style, the name is loving steamboat No, it was a minor bugfix patch. The next patch will add pro controller compatibility to the multiplayer modes, and the devs are aware of the performance issues, but there's no ETA for an optimisation patch at this point.
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May 21, 2018 09:24
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I'm glad someone mentioned PoE 2 was now out, because I had to change email address on my Obsidian and Fig accounts mid last year, and now despite being on the same new email the Obsidian account has no record of my Fig backing of PoE2, and my Fig account didn't email me to let me know the game had launched.
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May 21, 2018 09:33
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Cuphead doesn't own the concept of 'looking like early cartoons', and maybe people want to play a game like that which isn't a stupidly difficult run and gun platformer.
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May 21, 2018 09:40
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"Ripping off Cuphead" is a concise and simplified critique of the game's aesthetic. Cuphead went to incredible lengths to replicate the aesthetic of Fleischer era cartoons. When a game is unveiled a little bit after Cuphead was a massive success that has a similar but very bad mediocre and uninformed attempt at aping the same styles it's easy to assume the developers are choosing to use that aesthetic because Cuphead was successful with it. If it actually looked good or brought anything unique to the table the claims it's a rip off would be much rarer and less biting, but instead it looks like someone who makes lovely flash games played Cuphead.
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May 21, 2018 10:11
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Memento posted:I know it's not a Kickstarter but it's pretty relevant to most of this thread. I just backed this book project on Unbound. Full disclosure: I am an insane map nerd so maybe I'm the only one who is interested in this. I thought City 17 was in or at least heavily inspired by eastern Europe, so why is it laid out like loving New York?
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May 21, 2018 10:26
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Because valve are hacks
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May 21, 2018 10:37
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Valve didn't make that map. City 17 isn't gridded like that at all in-game. Source probably would've melted if it was, the constant curves and dead ends and barriers were a bit of an engine necessity. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 11:35 on May 21, 2018 |
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May 21, 2018 11:33
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Also that picture is probably just "put a picture of a city in next to some lorem ipsum text so we can get it up on the website"
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May 21, 2018 11:37
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The text is not ipsum lorem. "When it comes to spatial organization, City 17 adheres to the historically popular but versatile [I can't read this word] plan which is broken up by a select few diagonal avenues, and is currently in the process of re-arranging itself around the Citadel. The bulk of the built environment consists of wall to wall buildings organized around courtyards, mid-rise..."
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May 21, 2018 11:54
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Both the text and map are from the full excerpt available at the bottom of the page, so it's something they are using to advertise this book.
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May 21, 2018 11:57
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Fangz posted:Cuphead doesn't own the concept of 'looking like early cartoons', and maybe people want to play a game like that which isn't a stupidly difficult run and gun platformer. - QTE combat - Crafting - Collecting creatures with different rarities Throw in some energy mechanics and you got an App Store hit. Also, it looks like rear end: 
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May 21, 2018 14:50
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Enh, not saying this new game is any good, but the existence of cuphead shouldn't really be much of a factor. EDIT: I mean, that aesthetic is neat and I don't think we need to demand all devs attempting it to remortgage their homes, quit their jobs, and work 34 hours in a row like the cuphead devs did for five years to attain Full Commitment To The Aesthetic. Doing a cheapo-cuphead game especially in a different genre is entirely legitimate, the question is whether the final product is any good. I don't think it looks that bad for an indie rpg, really. And they have time to work on refining the aesthetic. Fangz fucked around with this message at 15:20 on May 21, 2018 |
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May 21, 2018 14:59
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Hel posted:I thought City 17 was in or at least heavily inspired by eastern Europe, so why is it laid out like loving New York? New York's grid is way more consistent than that. 
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May 21, 2018 15:04
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Hel posted:I thought City 17 was in or at least heavily inspired by eastern Europe, so why is it laid out like loving New York? The City 17 skybox you see very briefly during one of the final chapters of HL2 is a satellite image of nighttime New York.  I don't think you're supposed to read more into it than City 17 being enormous though.
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May 21, 2018 15:25
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Wow, never realized how loving lazy they were with that. That looks terrible.
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May 21, 2018 16:11
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I mean it's a texture that's seen at the end of the game for maybe 5 seconds.
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Fuzz posted:Wow, never realized how loving lazy they were with that. That looks terrible. it was 2004
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May 21, 2018 17:27
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Have you never seen a skybox before?
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Fangz posted:I don't think it looks that bad for an indie rpg, really. And they have time to work on refining the aesthetic. It's not bad, it's just the 'commit to the aesthetic" bit. Had this come before Cuphead people would be rightly excited, but Cuphead guys went the extra mile (well, parsec) and actually used the production process of the time, which is insane - and it payed off in droves. Having it look like a flash game in contrast is underwhelming. That's it.
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Bit late, but Black Geyser has now introduced social stretch goals as well. Looks doable, in fact, it appears the first two stretch goals (party romance and pets) have already been reached. They just haven't gotten around to updating the graphic yet.
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Memento posted:I know it's not a Kickstarter but it's pretty relevant to most of this thread. I just backed this book project on Unbound. Full disclosure: I am an insane map nerd so maybe I'm the only one who is interested in this. I'm obviously excited about the book since I paid $60 for it, it'll fit in with all my gaming artbooks that are way too nerdy to ever show anyone, but man does the platform Dimopoulos pick for crowdfunding it suck.
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Fangz posted:Cuphead doesn't own the concept of 'looking like early cartoons', and maybe people want to play a game like that which isn't a stupidly difficult run and gun platformer. No it doesn't, but if I put out a game called "Shadowy Souls" that was a RPG set in gothic horror it would be rightly derided as a knockoff. Dark souls doesn't own gothic horror, they just copied Berserk if anything. But they did a ton of original design and adaptation in the process. If Dark Souls was called "Ragezerk" then it would be given some crap as a knockoff too. And thats going from manga to game, going from game to game is less inspired and more "lets make a quick buck". Just be a little more creative than that. Even when Fortnight ripped off PUBG they didn't call it "Epic Games' Warfronts" and they did a different aesthetic.
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Sorry, but "Steamboat Billy" seems lazy as hell.
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Even putting aside asthetics, the design of the game seems like some cargo cult poo poo. A Zelda Style overworld (!), with Paper Mario style battles (!!), with collectable monsters that you can raise and evolve (!!!), and, for whatever reason, crafting (!!!!). Granted, it is hard to say if it is actually done well. Level 5 made their career by stuffing their games with whatever systems they can think of and I love those games. One thing that I immediately can say I do not like is sailing. Not looking forward to holding directional buttons for several screens on the same water tile.
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Speaking of games heavily based on recent successes, here's Darkest Dungeon, but with a Return of Werdna twist, which I'm backing because I like the ideas I'm seeing even though I fully acknowledge that their base asking goal (a mere 20k USD) is quite the warning sign.
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Still waiting for someone to spiritual successor Rocket Jockey and I’m too lazy/busy to do it myself.
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Yodzilla posted:Still waiting for someone to spiritual successor Rocket Jockey and I’m too lazy/busy to do it myself. I prototyped the main mechanic awhile back in Unity but yeah, same here. Love that game.
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Zanzibar Ham posted:Speaking of games heavily based on recent successes, here's Darkest Dungeon, but with a Return of Werdna twist, which I'm backing because I like the ideas I'm seeing even though I fully acknowledge that their base asking goal (a mere 20k USD) is quite the warning sign. Wow that combat screen is literally Darkest Dungeon. But most RPGs either do the dragon warrior thing or the final fantasy thing so whatever. At least its not called Barkest Dungeon.
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May 23, 2018 01:33
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Clicked the link and now sad it's not a dog - based darkest dungeon
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The Saddest Rhino posted:Clicked the link and now sad it's not a dog - based darkest dungeon That would be unbelievably rad. I was just going off the "Steamboat Billy" thing, sorry to give you false hope.
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Speaking of dog related Darkest Dungeon, there was a successful kickstarter a few years ago for a Homeward Bound esque game where you're looking for your master in a big city. Anyone remember this?
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al-azad posted:Speaking of dog related Darkest Dungeon, there was a successful kickstarter a few years ago for a Homeward Bound esque game where you're looking for your master in a big city. Anyone remember this?
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May 23, 2018 02:33
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Yep, that's it. Estimated release 2016, huh? Still waiting on Omori as well.
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I first came across Life of Delta when a dev posted some gifs of their environment in a facebook group and boy, did it look good. As is the case with most things on Kickstarter lately, the campaign's struggling. 
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Zaphod42 posted:Wow that combat screen is literally Darkest Dungeon. But most RPGs either do the dragon warrior thing or the final fantasy thing so whatever. At least its not called Barkest Dungeon. As an update I actually cancelled my pledge after finding out not only is one of their dev teamed nicknamed 'Nerd Commando'  but he may also be a scammer and a racist? I didn't see anything definite but along with that super-low base goal I think I can wait until it's out before buying it.
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