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NickRoweFillea posted:Is it weird to not be enthralled by Bagley potentially dropping to us? I think I’d rather have Triple J... I imagine it might be easier to say he doesn't get past 3, because I imagine you'd see a trade happening if he made it past 2. It's going to be a long month.
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Jota posted:Michael Porter Jr should have gotten 10% of his dad's salary I mean he probably did?
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the mean lunch lady posted:I mean he probably did? He got more than 10%. Separate payments though. This is about the principle come on now.
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NickRoweFillea posted:Is it weird to not be enthralled by Bagley potentially dropping to us? I think I’d rather have Triple J... Bagley next to an engaged Gasol might be one way that he actually works. I personally dont' believe the smoke about Doncic falling but if you want to hope and dream it I will pretend for you, my friend.
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Jota posted:He got more than 10%. Separate payments though. This is about the principle come on now. I dunno about that. There are like 7 or 8 Porter kids.
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quote:Earlier this week, Trae Young’s father, Ray, told the New York Daily News that New York is a desirable destination for his son because of the spotlight its big market creates. “That’s what Trae lives for,” Ray said of his son, who interviewed with New York on Friday. Multiple league sources told me that the Knicks have the hots for the Oklahoma point guard, so the interest is mutual. Get hype New York
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Knicks are my dream trade partner for Kemba so hopefully someone takes Trae (and Sexton I guess) before they're on deck
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WhyteRyce posted:Get hype New York PLEASE
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Metapod posted:PLEASE is that really better than orlando? kinda feels like a wash basketball wise
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the mean lunch lady posted:I dunno about that. There are like 7 or 8 Porter kids. And I'm sure Jr took care of them each handsomely
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MourningView posted:is that really better than orlando? kinda feels like a wash basketball wise New York has gotten a lot of mediocre players paid because of the attention that city brings.
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MourningView posted:is that really better than orlando? kinda feels like a wash basketball wise New York is a poorly managed team that will shoot itself in the foot every step of the way till dolan dies Orlando is a wasteland that destroys players and coaches
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Lockback posted:New York has gotten a lot of mediocre players paid because of the attention that city brings. Trae Young is going to take that Tim Hardaway Jr. mentoring and get paid...by the Knicks
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the mean lunch lady posted:I dunno about that. There are like 7 or 8 Porter kids. The Missouri Porter legacy and the Kansas Lawson legacy is eerily similar.
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NickRoweFillea posted:Is it weird to not be enthralled by Bagley potentially dropping to us? I think I’d rather have Triple J... If he gets to 3 it wouldn't surprise me if the Mavs tried to trade up to that pick.
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morestuff posted:Knicks are my dream trade partner for Kemba so hopefully someone takes Trae (and Sexton I guess) before they're on deck I'd be so happy if they somehow land Kemba but Trae would be a funny plan B
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Who do you guys think is the most impressive athlete in the draft, that's subjective of course, but I'd like to hear
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Dejan Bimble posted:Who do you guys think is the most impressive athlete in the draft, that's subjective of course, but I'd like to hear Zhaire Smith
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Dejan Bimble posted:Who do you guys think is the most impressive athlete in the draft, that's subjective of course, but I'd like to hear MV is right, but in terms of pure physical specimen-ness, Bamba’s near 8 foot wingspan is horrifying
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MourningView posted:is that really better than orlando? kinda feels like a wash basketball wise It’s a win life wise
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Forget the Suns having his coach, Sacramento is forming the next great Balkan super power alliance quote:Luka Doncic on Bogdan:"We are friends, he is a great player, I could learn a lot from him." WhyteRyce fucked around with this message at 05:25 on May 22, 2018 |
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WhyteRyce posted:Forget the Suns having his coach, Sacramento is forming the next great Balkan super power alliance
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# ? May 22, 2018 06:33 |
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Good article comparing many of the non-top tier wings, particularly against what Otto Porter and Robert Covington also showed in college: https://www.thestepien.com/2018/05/19/ball-handling-passing-defensive-versatility-wings-2018-draft/
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The Stepien has Trae Young in their tier 1
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Apparently on Ryen Russillo's podcast he said he's heard that Sarver loves Doncic but the front office wants Ayton. So, uh, there's a twist.
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WhyteRyce posted:The Stepien has Trae Young in their tier 1 he could be really good? It's not like he's a guranteed bust or something, you could argue he's the best guard in the draft pretty easily. I think he's pretty close to a consensus top 8-9 guy and I don't think it's too outrageous to have him above anyone outside of Doncic/Ayton/Jackson (though I know they don't really like Ayton that much because of the defense) MourningView fucked around with this message at 16:32 on May 22, 2018 |
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Space Camp fuckup posted:Apparently on Ryen Russillo's podcast he said he's heard that Sarver loves Doncic but the front office wants Ayton. So, uh, there's a twist. My gut tells me to do whatever the opposite of what Sarver thinks is right. Doncic should go undrafted
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MourningView posted:he could be really good? It's not like he's a guranteed bust or something, you could argue he's the best guard in the draft pretty easily. But if the argument is that he could, then you'd have to put a ton of people in your tier 1 for the same reason. Tier 1 to me means you are drafting that guy no matter what if he's available. Would you think any of the teams in the top 4 drafting him would be a good idea? Saying I would take him over anyone not named X means he certainly isn't top tier
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WhyteRyce posted:But if the argument is that he could, then you'd have to put a ton of people in your tier 1 for the same reason. I don't think he'd be that bad at 4 tbh. I can come up with about as many reasons to doubt Bagley, Carter, Bamba, Sexton, etc WhyteRyce posted:Saying I would take him over anyone not named X means he certainly isn't top tier So tier one should be one person? Because I don't think they'd take anyone over Doncic
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Dexo posted:My gut tells me to do whatever the opposite of what Sarver thinks is right. Well I mean if it wasn't for Sarver the Suns would've signed Raymond Felton instead of Goran Dragic a few years ago. Not that it ended up mattering much.
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Kibner posted:Good article comparing many of the non-top tier wings, particularly against what Otto Porter and Robert Covington also showed in college: https://www.thestepien.com/2018/05/19/ball-handling-passing-defensive-versatility-wings-2018-draft/ I'm at the point where I'll be disappointed if Miles isn't there for Charlotte at 11. WhyteRyce posted:The Stepien has Trae Young in their tier 1 With ramshackle blogs like that, who's writing the article matters more than usual. Some of the content on there is really bad, other stuff is solid.
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# ? May 22, 2018 16:39 |
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WhyteRyce posted:But if the argument is that he could, then you'd have to put a ton of people in your tier 1 for the same reason. Yes? The draft is all about belief in a player. This isn't the NFL draft(and even there it's bullshit mostly). I I would probably mock them but ultimately wouldn't care if a team drafted MPJ or Young, or J3 or anyone first overall. If you think a player is a superstar caliber player then you loving draft him wherever you are. Sure trading back to get more picks is great if you can be almost assured that you will get who you want still. But even so you still don't know what the other teams scouting and board looks like. So if you have any doubts. Draft whoever you like best. Saying that, It's an extremely good way to get fired I supoose, but if you think you have a dude gently caress what others outside the org think pick them.
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# ? May 22, 2018 16:39 |
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Trae is tier 1 on the court
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# ? May 22, 2018 16:42 |
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I like Jalen Brunson for the Grizz at 32. I think he’s going to be a solid professional player. Maybe not a star, but solid.
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I don't really care about rankings. The value in that article I posted is analysis of what they were able to accomplish in college and how that compares to what current NBA players who these prospects project to be like did in college. It also points out the growth that the now-NBA players had to do to become what they are today. Forget tier lists and weigh the article on its own merits.
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I like some of The Stepien's stuff. Their breakdown of Mikal Bridges they did earlier and doubt they had if he really was an elite defender was interesting. In the case of Trae Young they haven't had any kind of in-depth look at him yet and the breakdown they wrote of him was from December 2017. At the very least he's now down on tier 2 after a recent update so maybe they are just nbadraft.netting it
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WhyteRyce posted:I like some of The Stepien's stuff. Their breakdown of Mikal Bridges they did earlier and doubt they had if he really was an elite defender was interesting. In the case of Trae Young they haven't had any kind of in-depth look at him yet and the breakdown they wrote of him was from December 2017. At the very least he's now down on tier 2 after a recent update so maybe they are just nbadraft.netting it So you think he should be lower than they initially had him but also think it's bad that they eventually dropped him a bit after watching more? I think most people are lower on him now that they were in December; he didn't close out the season very well (though I'd argue there are mitigating circumstances there)
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Space Camp fuckup posted:Apparently on Ryen Russillo's podcast he said he's heard that Sarver loves Doncic but the front office wants Ayton. So, uh, there's a twist. Cant't play Or something
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MourningView posted:So you think he should be lower than they initially had him but also think it's bad that they eventually dropped him a bit after watching more? I think most people are lower on him now that they were in December; he didn't close out the season very well (though I'd argue there are mitigating circumstances there) I just thought it was weird having him on Tier 1 without any indepth breakdowns to indicate why they are so different from the rest of the pack. I don't mind an edgy take if you at least show your work (like they've done a ton of work to show why they have Ayton so low). I don't think it's bad that they dropped him to Tier 2, I just think that between only doing that recently and the breakdown of him being from December 2017, they are just a little slow ala NBA Draft.net
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I have Doncic and Trae Young over all the bigs then JJJ and Bamba
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