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Wait, how did June get outside and how did Nick see her? Or did she jump and they were implying Nick heard the thud?
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My take is that Nick saw her fall out the window? I don't think she jumped.
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May 17, 2018 01:05
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I could see Aunt Lydia being like a twisted version of the schoolteacher in Children of Men. Maybe a spinster who couldn't have children and was really affected by the decreasing number of children in her classroom over time.
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May 17, 2018 01:09
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Yeah, there seem to be different levels to the grounds around the house, so if she did fall it wasn't very far. Also, I didn't think the windows in June's room could be opened, but Aunt Lydia's comment about improving ventilation explains that, I guess.
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May 17, 2018 02:14
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Right, I think we're meant to infer that she sat down in the window, and then passed out from blood loss/shock and fell. I'm more curious about how she's apparently still pregnant. I mean that was a lot of blood. Hell I was starting to think she was hallucinating the blood or something.
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May 17, 2018 02:19
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I've seen Aunt Lydia as someone who is trying to atone for something. Maybe she had a baby as a teenager, put it up for adoption, and never managed to forgive herself for having had pre-marital sex?
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May 17, 2018 20:41
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For some reason Lydia's "your baby is the size of a papaya" comment to Waterford stuck out in my head. It just seems like an odd comparison to make, especially to someone like him, who probably has no idea what a papaya looks like.
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May 17, 2018 20:57
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precision posted:The one bright spot was Nick coming out of the house with the cigarette and collar flipped looking like that famous picture of Kerouac I'm confused as to how Nick could be a bright spot for anyone at all. He made as well be made of glass he has so little presence. Crow Jane posted:For some reason Lydia's "your baby is the size of a papaya" comment to Waterford stuck out in my head. It just seems like an odd comparison to make, especially to someone like him, who probably has no idea what a papaya looks like. I think it was meant to let you know that Lydia doesn't really know much. Gilead has probably purged a lot of the people who know stuff about prenatal health. Lydia's level of knowledge is about that of one of those pregnancy apps that give you facts about your fetus as it grows.
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May 17, 2018 21:36
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Nice little bit of world building, and acting, as Aunt Lydia shows a nice mix of haughty pride and faux-humility as she explains her special dispensation to read and write to track prenatal stuff.
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May 17, 2018 21:44
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Maybe I'm off base, but I'm trying to think of what advice Lydia's been giving and it's like bathe twice a day instead of once, drink this herbal tea, take walks, mrs waterford should talk so the baby can hear her voice, no smoking around the pregnant lady. It seems like wives' tales-level of expertise.
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May 17, 2018 21:49
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PostNouveau posted:I'm confused as to how Nick could be a bright spot for anyone at all. He made as well be made of glass he has so little presence. I think he's handsome in a weird way  The little clue we got that Aunt Lydia used to smoke is surely building us up for an entire episode that's just her in flashbacks. PostNouveau posted:Maybe I'm off base, but I'm trying to think of what advice Lydia's been giving and it's like bathe twice a day instead of once, drink this herbal tea, take walks, mrs waterford should talk so the baby can hear her voice, no smoking around the pregnant lady. It seems like wives' tales-level of expertise. Yeah, it's very "nanny ogg" edit: loving hell, Dowd would make a great Nanny Ogg
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Crow Jane posted:For some reason Lydia's "your baby is the size of a papaya" comment to Waterford stuck out in my head. It just seems like an odd comparison to make, especially to someone like him, who probably has no idea what a papaya looks like. I had a baby last November and that comment made me laugh. All the pregnancy books/apps give you size estimations for your baby based on the week you're in and they seem obsessed with fruit. I was definitely carrying around a papaya for a week, and my kid was "apple-sized" like four times (different kinds of apples, I assume). Also, June would be 25 weeks based on her fundal height measurement which is right on the cusp of viability outside the womb  .
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May 17, 2018 23:58
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woah they are gonna cut it out of her.
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precision posted:Right, I think we're meant to infer that she sat down in the window, and then passed out from blood loss/shock and fell. There’s a few things that could be going on that would cause massive blood loss, but wouldn’t affect the fetus if managed. Placenta previa was the first one that came to mind, where the placenta attaches over or very close to the cervix. If that’s what’s going on she’ll be put on bed rest until the baby is born or the placenta moves away from the cervix as the uterus expands. That’s gonna be boring as poo poo for a tv show though....
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May 18, 2018 03:55
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How will Serena Joy react if Nick's child bride gets pregnant? Also, did they say the child bride will isn't going to get to see her family again?
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May 18, 2018 10:53
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I'm not sure they are going to keep her from her family as a rule, but she did say that they didn't have much time to say goodbye before she was given away. It's probably up to Nick now whether or not she gets to visit her family.
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May 18, 2018 12:41
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I was kinda expecting it to be junes daughter. The lady of the house is the kind of person to do it
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datajugend posted:I was kinda expecting it to be junes daughter. The lady of the house is the kind of person to do it I was going to say that was ridiculous based on the age of her daughter but then realized I'd have to argue the relative morality and effectiveness of marrying off 8 year olds vs. 12 year olds and yeah, so not a conversation I want to have.
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Since Serena explicitly says that sex in Gilead can be recreational, what are we to make of her implications in S1 that her and The Commander don't really get down and dirty anymore? Just a bad marriage? I don't know how I'd feel if they try and do a face turn for Serena, because I think that's something that they've considered.
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Though Serena doesn't make this distinction, I had the impression that it's only acceptable if a couple can produce children. Since Serena is supposedly sterile, it would be a sin of lust for the Waterfords to continue with 'the act'. Fred even blamed her for bringing lust into their house when she tried to rekindle their marriage. Just more hypocritical bullshit that the foundation of Gilead is built on. Countless probably fertile women are wasted because it's preposterous to consider that the husbands might be shooting blanks.
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Oh yeah, you're right. Had a minor brain lapse there.
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cocoavalley posted:Though Serena doesn't make this distinction, I had the impression that it's only acceptable if a couple can produce children. Since Serena is supposedly sterile, it would be a sin of lust for the Waterfords to continue with 'the act'. Fred even blamed her for bringing lust into their house when she tried to rekindle their marriage. Just more hypocritical bullshit that the foundation of Gilead is built on. Countless probably fertile women are wasted because it's preposterous to consider that the husbands might be shooting blanks. huh yeah that makes sense. at first i figured it was low key that he was in the closet, so i got confused for a bit when they went to the whore house
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Fragmented posted:Thank you for making this thread. I was staring at gifs and source codes two nights ago trying to get my posting mojo on but i....didn't do anything. Unlike our hero! Cutting my ear off to own the chuds! I'm only now catching up, but  there has to be a better way to remove those things
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May 23, 2018 03:10
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Well that was a  cliffhanger
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May 23, 2018 06:28
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So, so far both Ofglens have now: 1. had parts removed 2. killed some motherfuckers Gotta admit, I'm slightly curious about Glen, he seems to have a knack for inadvertently radicalizing Handmaids
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Just watching now. Seeing the commanders wife get shouted off stage loving owned. E: especially on the heels of seeing Tomi Lauren get shouted down and getting a drink thrown on her in public.
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That was an awesome episode.Crow Jane posted:So, so far both Ofglens have now: Oh - did we ever meet Glen's wife? She'd probably get blamed for it.
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Definitely starting to see some of the Iranian Revolution stuff Atwood drew from come to a head. That kicked rear end. I hope the commander is dead.
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What even happens to widows in Gilead? I assume the commanders' wives won't all be shipped off to the colonies, but I'm not sure they'll be allowed to keep living in their fancy houses and whatnot. Who's going to be in charge now that all the high ranking men are (hopefully) gone?
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Holy gently caress that ending  It'll be really interesting to see what will happen in the future
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I was shocked it went down but realistically its just going to make things shittier for June et al. I will say this, i was just about done with watching this show (again) because it was just same ole same ole and then they go and make it exciting again. Hoping everyone important dies so we can't go back to status quo in 3 episodes.
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Big Bug Hug posted:Oh - did we ever meet Glen's wife? She'd probably get blamed for it. We did see her, she was the one who was really nervous and nice and she kept putting off the handmaid ritual by saying she had a headache or something. Emily wasn't lying when she said "a wife was kind to me once", she was referencing that. Also, looks like the show has been renewed for Season 3 and coming up this season we're gonna see (super minor spoilers about upcoming guest stars): Bradley Whitford as Commander Joseph Lawrence (season 2), the architect of Gilead’s economy, who is gruff and intimidating, with a disheveled mad genius vibe. His sly humor and flashes of kindness make him a confusing, mysterious presence for his newest Handmaid Marisa Tomei as Mrs. O'Conner (season 2), a Commander's wife who is sent to the colonies as punishment for having sex with another man.
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May 24, 2018 00:45
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esperterra posted:Tomei already showed up and died. I totally didn't recognize her. Propaganda Machine posted:so is season 2 still bad or ...the gently caress???
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