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Cool, done with the OS war argument and now we can move on to the cloud equivalent. It's almost as if someone doesn't know the world doesn't revolve around them.
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Internet Explorer posted:Cool, done with the OS war argument and now we can move on to the cloud equivalent. It's almost as if someone doesn't know the world doesn't revolve around them. spoilsport
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I’m in AWS and GCP, so it doesn’t seem that compelling. Gcloud has a few features that are way ahead (global flat networks(I can route from Singapore to Frankfort to Ashburn in one VPC), better CI stuff and GKE is the best k8s) and AWS is the best all around cloud. Azure has some interesting stuff but it doesn’t offer anything that compelling.
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freeasinbeer posted:I’m in AWS and GCP, so it doesn’t seem that compelling. Gcloud has a few features that are way ahead (global flat networks(I can route from Singapore to Frankfort to Ashburn in one VPC), better CI stuff and GKE is the best k8s) and AWS is the best all around cloud. Doesn't offer anything that compelling for you. Or maybe the world does revolve around you, who knows? How's getting your laptop to stop rebooting on you in the middle of the day going?
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May 24, 2018 01:40
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Thanks Ants posted:The AWS thread in the Cavern of COBOL is sort of also an all public clouds thread I always forget that place exists. I am certain that I have missed much! E: "AWS is the best all around cloud" is a humdinger of a sentence.
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freeasinbeer posted:I’m in AWS and GCP, so it doesn’t seem that compelling. Gcloud has a few features that are way ahead (global flat networks(I can route from Singapore to Frankfort to Ashburn in one VPC), better CI stuff and GKE is the best k8s) and AWS is the best all around cloud. Lol. 
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freeasinbeer posted:I’m in AWS and GCP, so it doesn’t seem that compelling. Gcloud has a few features that are way ahead (global flat networks(I can route from Singapore to Frankfort to Ashburn in one VPC), better CI stuff and GKE is the best k8s) and AWS is the best all around cloud. Lmao it's you again
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May 24, 2018 01:42
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GCE is cool because it doesn't actively hate me the way a product built by amazon in 2004 to address amazon's internal needs does.
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Internet Explorer posted:Doesn't offer anything that compelling for you. It wasn’t mine, it was a coworkers that got Jamf-ed as we dipped our toes back into allowing it on our laptops and he was the guinea pig. As a division we’ve avoided centralized management because of issues like that in the past. The point I was trying to make there is that there are a lot of user hostile stances that breed anger for little return. In this case it just means that we keep our poo poo off central management(if we have a half decent partner in IT we’d reconsider it makes us do more work). And it was implied that I was talking from my perspective. ACS has some ok things and if I was a .net shop I’d be looking at it for managed k8s. Their virtual kublet has also beaten fargate/EKS to the market. There is also a mongo wire compatible db engine that might be interesting if you are heavily into mongo. As far as AWS, it’s the largest player in the cloud world, gets first class support for things like TF faster and is the default target for just about anyone going to the cloud. Does it have some narly limitations? Yes. Are there some really lovely offerings? Yes. But as far as breadth and depth it blows GCP and Azure out of the water.
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I've had to deal with Azure classic for a while and getting it to migrate to ARM has been a pain, but once all that's done Azure is pretty great (insanely easier if you know PowerShell). Migrating a classic VNet to a new ARM ExpressRoute was only a 4-line script.
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May 24, 2018 02:03
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Tailored Sauce posted:I've had to deal with Azure classic for a while and getting it to migrate to ARM has been a pain, but once all that's done Azure is pretty great (insanely easier if you know PowerShell). Migrating a classic VNet to a new ARM ExpressRoute was only a 4-line script. Azure Service Manager was god awful. Azure Resource Manager is insanely awesome. And a worthy competitor towards AWS, GCP, etc.
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May 24, 2018 02:42
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Vulture Culture posted:"We do all our testing in production" is an appropriate solution for an ever-increasing number of companies This only "works" because management is still very willing to fire a low-level employee when something goes wrong in production. The process is perfect, we just need to get rid of a person if an executive ever experiences an issue.
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May 24, 2018 02:49
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Methanar posted:iperf3 wasn't part of the testing? lol what the gently caress is that? it sounds expensive. we just used a flashlight.
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Judge Schnoopy posted:I'm a huge powershell fan so to me, nothing. To anybody else in the industry we talk to, they look at us like we're insane. I know people will take their preferred shell/scripting language to the grave, but caring what people use to SSH into stuff/interact with an API seems like a bit much. Also today I used PowerShell and gShell to do what would have been days of work for me and my coworker in uhhhhhhh.... about 8 lines of code. (Plus an Excel macro and a gSheet script.) Inspector_666 fucked around with this message at 04:46 on May 24, 2018 |
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May 24, 2018 04:43
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Can we do a ruby vs python fight soon?
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May 24, 2018 06:10
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jaegerx posted:Can we do a ruby vs python fight soon? Ruby's runtime overhead is bullshit
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jaegerx posted:Can we do a ruby vs python fight soon? I am a tech person at my first job for a startup, I know what I am talking about here.
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May 24, 2018 06:19
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Sickening posted:I am a tech person at my first job for a startup, I know what I am talking about here.
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Sudden Loud Noise posted:This only "works" because management is still very willing to fire a low-level employee when something goes wrong in production. “Testing in production” is essentially a requirement once you’re building web apps at a certain scale. You simply can’t generate the requisite amount of variety of traffic and interactions to truly test internally. Canary releases and the like are you only real option. And many very successful companies do this very well.
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Methanar posted:Ruby's poo poo
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Sickening posted:I am a tech person at my first job for a startup, I know what I am talking about here.
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Sickening posted:I am a tech person at my first job for a startup, I have no idea what I am talking about here. Methanar fucked around with this message at 07:36 on May 24, 2018 |
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May 24, 2018 07:29
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YOLOsubmarine posted:“Testing in production” is essentially a requirement once you’re building web apps at a certain scale. You simply can’t generate the requisite amount of variety of traffic and interactions to truly test internally. Canary releases and the like are you only real option. And many very successful companies do this very well. But then they aren't testing against all users at once, and there is an automated migration and a roll-back plan in place before deployment. When people talk about testing in production, what I think of is an elite hacker editing their PHP scripts in Notepad++ on Windows, over a live FTP connection to the server.
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nielsm posted:But then they aren't testing against all users at once, and there is an automated migration and a roll-back plan in place before deployment. ha
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I like power-shell I wish i was good enough at it to not be copying scripts and editing them slightly all the time and instead i'd like to just write them myself. Thanks that's my hot take.
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May 24, 2018 10:25
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Powershell is fun
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Sickening posted:I am a tech person at my first job for a startup, I know what I am talking about here. That's the stuff right there. :schlick:
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dogstile posted:I like power-shell Everyone has to start somewhere. dogstile posted:I like power-shell You aren’t as far away from writing them Yourself as you believe. Buy the power shell in a month of lunches and you will be well on your way in no time.
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Yeah well I work exclusively on a type writer so all this networking, cloud, scripting and OS crap you dumbos are talking about is actually trash for dumb idiots sorry
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May 24, 2018 14:16
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maybe I'll quit and become a typewriter janitor.
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Sometimes I look at the jobs the warehouse guys get sent out on and figure i'd be happier moving stuff, then i realise how abysmally they get paid and I continue pressing buttons
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May 24, 2018 14:48
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Tailored Sauce posted:maybe I'll quit and become a typewriter janitor. Being Tom Hanks' typewriter maintainer would be a sweet job
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What's the best antivirus?
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Microsofts built in AV.
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Sepist posted:What's the best antivirus? This is like saying "What is the best STD?" Seconding that the built in AV is going to work as good as any other IMHO.
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May 24, 2018 15:33
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Sepist posted:What's the best antivirus? Being on Linux. (Non-joke answer: Windows Defender if you're on Windows. For Mac I have no clue.)
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Ugh come on guys I was obviously gaslighting I dont give a gently caress about AV
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Trend micro agentless manager running on your Linux desktop, all your work done on Microsoft virtual machines  Reduce your overhead by increasing your overhead. Can't fail.
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Sepist posted:What's the best antivirus? A hammer.
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Powershell owns, *esp* compared to the garbage fire that is bash. If I have to do anything in bash longer than like 3 lines I'm going to python. Re: Azure: I found out that you can use Azure AD + a yubikey as a way of authing to windows hello (or at least can in the near future) which means I might move my homelab and infra bullshit over from AWS to play with it for a while. Yubikey auth would be Very Fun.
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