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Doctor Butts posted:Earlier in the show, they showed two copies of the knife on the table. After, they only showed the one. I think this means Deke was blinked out of existence. He said he was leaving. He was gone and all his stuff was gone. Either he blinked out of existence or he made good on his word. Either way, we won't know until next year.
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LividLiquid posted:There's really no point in endlessly debating this. Look, we have a year to debate this. How dare you be logical?!
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May 23, 2018 21:20
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GreenNight posted:Look, we have a year to debate this. How dare you be logical?! They better do it quick because season 7 is already going to be canceled 
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GreenNight posted:Look, we have a year to debate this. How dare you be logical?! This is going to be a very long year.
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May 23, 2018 23:17
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I don't see how they could waste screen time having a character introduce the multiverse theory to just be like nah, actually he blinked out of existence. Either they find the budget and willpower to bring him back or we will never know what happened.
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May 24, 2018 07:48
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counterfeitsaint posted:I don't see how they could waste screen time having a character introduce the multiverse theory to just be like nah, actually he blinked out of existence. Either they find the budget and willpower to bring him back or we will never know what happened. Unless Jeff Ward was an utter chore to work with, I think they'll bring him back for exactly that reason. A Deke Shaw from some alternate timeline ends up in theirs via whatever multidimensional hoodoo they introduce next season. homullus fucked around with this message at 14:21 on May 24, 2018 |
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May 24, 2018 14:11
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... they still have the Fear dimension thingie sitting in the basement, right? Sooner or later that thing is going to fail and the rift will open again, preferably at the most plot-inconvenient time.
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May 24, 2018 14:18
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Dekes probably just hanging out with Wards dog
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May 24, 2018 14:19
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double nine posted:... they still have the Fear dimension thingie sitting in the basement, right? Sooner or later that thing is going to fail and the rift will open again, preferably at the most plot-inconvenient time. Sealed up permanently by quaking compressing the gravitonium device technobabble but who knows, maybe homullus posted:Unless Jeff Ward was an utter chore to work with, I think they'll bring him back for exactly that reason. A Deke Shaw from some alternate timeline ends up in theirs via whatever multidimensional hoodoo they introduce next season. I just want him to put his mouth on Daisy's mouth and move it around, but in a respectful manner
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May 24, 2018 14:22
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If they draw on anything from this season, I think we'll be seeing more of Kasius Senior, particularly now that Daisy's told him that she goes on to kill both his children one day. Throw in Deke's star maps, and the search for Fitz taking them back to space at least temporarily, and I think that's the natural next step for the show to travel down. double nine posted:... they still have the Fear dimension thingie sitting in the basement, right? Sooner or later that thing is going to fail and the rift will open again, preferably at the most plot-inconvenient time. At the time I figured that the fear dimension would somehow collide with Phobos reappearing this season, but he got lost in the shuffle before he got to do anything like that. But if they don't go with Kassius, I reckon they should definitely draw on the dimension stuff for next season.
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May 24, 2018 14:41
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The fate of Deke was intentionally played both ways. Like he told Daisy "I won't be here when you guys get back because I want to see the world" and they were actively stocking areas of the Lighthouse in case they failed and the word was split again. But then Gemma entered what was probably Deke's room and he was gone, his hoarded stuff was gone, and his multitool was gone. "Clearly this means he vanished," you say. But if him being erased would erase the stuff he hoarded, it would also erase all the other things he did, like provide the initial gravitonium to slow down the fear portal, and fix the wiring that one time, and read the characters on the alien spaceship so they could use the space vibrator to teleport away. But how could he have cleared out his room that fast? Well, he wasn't working alone and he could have realized that if he was leaving, hoarding supplies was a dick move. So they spread them out. They left it open so they can go either way next season. We'll see.
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Seems weird that people are complaining that the show isn’t connected to the MCU. As far as I can tell, the ending of this season, as well as the news that the next one won’t be until after Avengers 4, basically guarantees that the resolution to the end of Infinity War involves time travel, and the “snap” will be made never to have happened. They don’t want to have an entire season, or part of one, that ends up completely removed from history due to the events of a film.
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May 27, 2018 00:15
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Deke can't be gone, he has to come back and tell everyone about theme parks.
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May 27, 2018 00:22
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Comrade Fakename posted:Seems weird that people are complaining that the show isn’t connected to the MCU. As far as I can tell, the ending of this season, as well as the news that the next one won’t be until after Avengers 4, basically guarantees that the resolution to the end of Infinity War involves time travel, and the “snap” will be made never to have happened. They don’t want to have an entire season, or part of one, that ends up completely removed from history due to the events of a film. Yeah but that’s “connected” in a meta way outside of the shows logic. I don’t think anyone is expecting Thor to rock up at this point but having a few coy references feels like the movies just didn’t inform the show at all. I agree the time travel aspect puts them in a hard place however.
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May 27, 2018 02:05
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At least Arrow and Flash have the Train to Oblivion they put characters on when its time for them to depart.
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May 27, 2018 02:06
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They are still going to be hosed for s6 and MCU continuity unless the movie people tell them what happens in Avengers 4(they won't).
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:They are still going to be hosed for s6 and MCU continuity unless the movie people tell them what happens in Avengers 4(they won't). No they won't. Talbot's motivation could have easily been anything else for the last three episodes.
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Comrade Fakename posted:Seems weird that people are complaining that the show isn’t connected to the MCU. As far as I can tell, the ending of this season, as well as the news that the next one won’t be until after Avengers 4, basically guarantees that the resolution to the end of Infinity War involves time travel, and the “snap” will be made never to have happened. They don’t want to have an entire season, or part of one, that ends up completely removed from history due to the events of a film. Well, regarding the ending of the season, they've claimed it simply ends before the events of Infinity War. But I do think you're likely correct - the snap will be undone, and the team will continue in the new timeline never having known what Thanos did. What I wonder is, if this is indeed how it goes, would we ever get an Agents of S.N.A.P. comic that shows what happens to the team in the initial timeline? It could make for a cool alternate story, even if it was kinda doomed to just suddenly end with the events not mattering.
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BreakAtmo posted:Well, regarding the ending of the season, they've claimed it simply ends before the events of Infinity War. But I do think you're likely correct - the snap will be undone, and the team will continue in the new timeline never having known what Thanos did. I guess that depends on if the marketing or finance guys’s algorithms tell them if it’ll be profitable or not.
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May 27, 2018 07:38
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They already tried a show inspired book. I think it lasted 8 issues.
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May 27, 2018 07:52
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Twenty-two issues actually, between the pre and post Secret Wars versions. I liked Waid's run, though it did have the issue with Daisy Johnson where they came up with a clunky reason for Coulson to call her Skye.
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May 27, 2018 13:09
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Of course it's not, that's why it's her nickname , like I said it was very clunky. Using Kyle MacLachlan as the model for Zabo was a nice touch. Coulson winds up taking the Hyde formula and Fitz talks him down. It was a nice little series.
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I feel like waiting out Infinity War is a bit silly. Statistically speaking it's entirely possible - probable, even! - that nobody from SHIELD gets hit by the snap, which in the meantime gives them plenty of things to do even if they're not relevant to the movies.
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I’m going out on a limb and say they don’t even mention it. They have barely been a part of the MCU since like civil war.
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13 episodes doesn't leave them a lot of room for stuff that will be over and done with in the films. The Quest for Fitz is easily the first three episodes.
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Invalid Validation posted:I’m going out on a limb and say they don’t even mention it. They have barely been a part of the MCU since like civil war.
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May 28, 2018 05:23
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They mentioned Sokovia too and didn’t do anything with it.
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Invalid Validation posted:They mentioned Sokovia too and didn’t do anything with it. Exactly. I don’t know why people think that, other than an off handed comment or two, there will ever be any meaningful links to the MCU. It’s baffling and it will never happen. The Winter Soldier/Hydra intersection was it.
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This bunch of C-tier heroes staying off the radar of the Avengers and other world-killers is perfect theming when they're also actually doing a more efficient job of saving the world every year by being a low budget government agency. That aspect probably held up better a couple years ago but it still fits into this world better than Quake showing up to mildly annoy Thanos.
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May 28, 2018 06:32
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It would be nice to get a cameo or two for some movies but they seem to hate the TV division for some reason. Least Coulson will be in the Captain Marvel movie and maybe more but that’s only cause he was a movie actor before the show.
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May 28, 2018 06:43
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We got Sif.
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R-Type posted:At least Arrow and Flash have the Train to Oblivion they put characters on when its time for them to depart. Excuse me but that "Train to Oblivion" is called DC's Legends of Tomorrow and it's the greatest show on television 
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HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:Excuse me but that "Train to Oblivion" is called DC's Legends of Tomorrow and it's the greatest show on television Patty got on the wrong train.
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May 28, 2018 08:59
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Rhyno posted:Patty got on the wrong train. I'll never forgive The Flash for that one
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Rhyno posted:Patty got on the wrong train. Patty got a job on Shooter and became a Instagram babe. She aiight
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So is it just me or is the front of the alien ship that Talbot crashed into Chicago lifted directly from Star Trek Voyager?
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Rhyno posted:We got Sif. Skrull. ANOTHER ONE WAY MOVIE TIE-IN, THANKS MARVEL.
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bio347 posted:I feel like waiting out Infinity War is a bit silly. Statistically speaking it's entirely possible - probable, even! - that nobody from SHIELD gets hit by the snap, which in the meantime gives them plenty of things to do even if they're not relevant to the movies. That doesn't make any sense. Possible yes, probable? Of course not. Invalid Validation posted:They mentioned Sokovia too and didn't do anything with it. Yes they did. Inhumans signed the accords and got officially recognized by the government again and they even put an "Inhuman" in charge of a nationally recognized SHIELD again. Briefly. They already talked about Thanos happening. It's gonna be really awkward to open up next season with "Man, i'm glad that Thanos guy we mentioned several times left earth and nothing ever happened with that huh? That potentially could have been trouble, but it's not now, everything is perfectly okay! I guess Talbot died for nothing, oh well."
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Beyond a conversation or two, at most, there will be zero tangible impact of movie events. Just like all the other times except the Hydra reveal in season 1. Even the episodes involving the government were all about *inhumans* and not any of the superheroes from the movies beyond oblique conversational references.
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