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Ofecks posted:No but due to all the horror stories I've read about people's experiences with the seasonal updates (especially this new one) I'd rather be safe than sorry. You're not being safe. Dude's probably using an entire different computer configuration to you.
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If your computer has a non standard partition arrangement which means anything with more than a 100MB boot and then the system partition, the latest spring update WILL (probably, lol) fail and gently caress your load to the point you need to do a clean install. You can tell if your poo poo hosed up by the recovery poo poo having something like 3 (or more ) apparent windows loads. I'm at 13 computers now with this bullshit. redeyes fucked around with this message at 00:54 on May 25, 2018 |
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May 24, 2018 23:07
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Huh, Photos now has a timeline at the side of the window instead of a scroll bar, and even on my relatively slow Surface you can jump from year to year at lightning speed, which I very much like.
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May 24, 2018 23:12
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redeyes posted:If your computer has a non standard partition arrangement which means anything with more than a 100MB boot and then the system partition, the latest spring update WILL fail and gently caress your load to the point you need to do a clean install. I'm calling bullshit cuz this is the laptop I'm posting from right this second, and that's not how my partitions are arranged at all, yet there was no issue installing the update. You really need to stop pulling poo poo out your rear end and smearing it across the keyboard.
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May 24, 2018 23:13
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redeyes posted:If your computer has a non standard partition arrangement which means anything with more than a 100MB boot and then the system partition, the latest spring update WILL fail and gently caress your load to the point you need to do a clean install. You can tell if your poo poo hosed up by the recovery poo poo having something like 3 (or more ) apparent windows loads. You’re talking about the issue where it can’t find the desktop and it just gets stuck on a bootloop right? So I’m gonna have to reformat the son of a bitch? I’m completely computer illiterate, would that also erase my entire hard drive?
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May 24, 2018 23:29
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Calaveron posted:You’re talking about the issue where it can’t find the desktop and it just gets stuck on a bootloop right? So I’m gonna have to reformat the son of a bitch? I’m completely computer illiterate, would that also erase my entire hard drive? Yeah that issue exactly. The odd part is you can load the spring update ISO/USB stick from a clean boot and it will work fine with the same partition arrangement. Whether or not the NEXT update fucks that too is up for debate. So the answer is you don't need to format/repartition but you probably need to reinstall from a USB/CD and a clean boot. Probably get a nerd friend to help because you don't want to nuke your data on accident.. but basically you need to pick the same windows partition it was installed to before. It will rename your stuff to Windows.old and then install a new clean load which also fixes the bootloader whatever screwup. redeyes fucked around with this message at 00:27 on May 25, 2018 |
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May 24, 2018 23:40
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fishmech posted:I'm calling bullshit cuz this is the laptop I'm posting from right this second, and that's not how my partitions are arranged at all, yet there was no issue installing the update. You really need to stop pulling poo poo out your rear end and smearing it across the keyboard. 
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May 25, 2018 00:18
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Microsoft need to stop smearing poo poo on keyboards when writing updates. Maybe they can confine it to the floor or something?
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May 25, 2018 00:22
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Just turn off windows update until they fix 1803.
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May 25, 2018 00:23
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fishmech posted:I'm calling bullshit cuz this is the laptop I'm posting from right this second, and that's not how my partitions are arranged at all, yet there was no issue installing the update. You really need to stop pulling poo poo out your rear end and smearing it across the keyboard.  "Everyone is lying, there are no problems and if there were they wouldn't be a big deal at all! Microsoft can do no wrong!"
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redeyes posted:Yeah that issue exactly. The odd part is you can load the spring update ISO/USB stick from a clean boot and it will work fine with the same partition arrangement. Whether or not the NEXT update fucks that too is up for debate. PLEASE tell me there's like a tutorial or something on how to get this done
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May 25, 2018 01:31
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It's just a general reinstall dude. Nothing special. You end up with a fresh windows load with no apps and all your data in Windows.old In general https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 Download the tool and run it, you will need a blank USB stick, feed the tool that stick. It will make the installer stuff on the USB. Take that USB stick to your broken computer. Boot with it, install windows 10 on the largest partition on the HD. Boot up, setup your account/password. Copy your data files from c:\windows.old\Users\yourusername. Sorry I can't be more specific. redeyes fucked around with this message at 01:50 on May 25, 2018 |
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May 25, 2018 01:48
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:
Ok nice little fantasy life you have, but it's objective that the thing he posted isn't true.
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May 25, 2018 01:58
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fishmech posted:Ok nice little fantasy life you have, but it's objective that the thing he posted isn't true. So he didn't have any problems with 1803? Why would he lie about that?
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May 25, 2018 02:13
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:So he didn't have any problems with 1803? Why would he lie about that? Pretty amazing how you didn't even read what he wrote and I responded to. Here's what it is: redeyes posted:If your computer has a non standard partition arrangement which means anything with more than a 100MB boot and then the system partition, the latest spring update WILL fail and gently caress your load to the point you need to do a clean install. Again, this is flat out untrue.
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May 25, 2018 02:24
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fishmech posted:Pretty amazing how you didn't even read what he wrote and I responded to. Here's what it is: So did he lie about having problems with 13 computers due to 1803 or not? Pretty simple question dude.
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May 25, 2018 02:28
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Ofecks posted:Checked device manager, apparently both my NVMe SSD and storage HDD had write caching enabled. I disabled it on the HDD for now, will re-enable when I get the UPS unit I'm planning on buying. Kinda nervous about having it on my boot drive during spring's tumultuous weather. redeyes posted:If your computer has a non standard partition arrangement which means anything with more than a 100MB boot and then the system partition, the latest spring update WILL (probably, lol) fail and gently caress your load to the point you need to do a clean install. You can tell if your poo poo hosed up by the recovery poo poo having something like 3 (or more ) apparent windows loads. Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 02:34 on May 25, 2018 |
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May 25, 2018 02:32
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:So did he lie about having problems with 13 computers due to 1803 or not? Pretty simple question dude. He said that this will happen to any computer that has a partition table that isn't a 100 MB boot partition and then the full system partition. This isn't true, and 13 computers that happen to have different partition tables having the problem doesn't make it true. He is lying about "different partition table = computer won't work after update".
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May 25, 2018 02:36
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redeyes posted:It's just a general reinstall dude. Nothing special. You end up with a fresh windows load with no apps and all your data in Windows.old Dang, I don’t have any blank usb sticks, but I'll try this as soon as I’m able
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May 25, 2018 02:43
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"It doesn't happen EVERY time, therefore what that guy said is completely worthless." You are a punctilious oval office. (Yes I hit up a thesaurus.) E: Or maybe, you are punctilious to the point of being cunty. That accurate enough for you?
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May 25, 2018 03:39
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Hipster_Doofus posted:"It doesn't happen EVERY time, therefore what that guy said is completely worthless." Yes, when he went ahead and tried to claim that everyone who doesn't have a specific partition layout will have their computers broken, that was extremely worthless. Because it isn't true.
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May 25, 2018 03:44
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Yeah no, show me where he said "if your layout isn't THIS SPECIFICALLY, you're hosed." He said non-standard, which granted is nebulous and could've been fleshed out. But you are just driven to find ways to say people are wrong.
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Hipster_Doofus posted:Yeah no, show me where he said "if your layout isn't THIS SPECIFICALLY, you're hosed." He said non-standard, which granted is nebulous and could've been fleshed out. But you are just driven to find ways to say people are wrong. What part of the original post are you having trouble reading? Again, this is what his original post said when I quoted it: redeyes posted:If your computer has a non standard partition arrangement which means anything with more than a 100MB boot and then the system partition, the latest spring update WILL fail and gently caress your load to the point you need to do a clean install. He said: "anything with more than a 100MB boot and then the system partition" He then said: "the latest spring update WILL fail" if your configuration was different than that This is extremely clear, and it's also wrong. This is what I pointed out in my original post. I'm not sure how to make this any clearer, there was a statement made by him and it was not true. Please use your eyes and carefully read the less than 50 words of the quote. It's not hard.
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Is there a way to show the system tray on all taskbars? Or have each taskbar only show the tasks for its monitor instead of all of them?
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fishmech posted:I'm calling bullshit cuz this is the laptop I'm posting from right this second, and that's not how my partitions are arranged at all, yet there was no issue installing the update. You really need to stop pulling poo poo out your rear end and smearing it across the keyboard. You LITERALLY posted an image with a 100mb EFI partition and the system partition directly after that. The OP specifically said this applies to systems that don't have that setup. And before you point out that he said boot partition, not EFI partition, I will say: 1: Nobody likes a pedant 2: As per Wikipedia: "An ESP contains the boot loaders or kernel images for all installed operating systems." 3: Also per Wikipedia: "Microsoft recommends that when partitioning a disk, the EFI system partition be the first partition on the disk. This is not a requirement of the EFI specification itself." They probably don't test thoroughly for other configurations. KillHour fucked around with this message at 04:31 on May 25, 2018 |
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Hipster_Doofus posted:Yeah no, show me where he said "if your layout isn't THIS SPECIFICALLY, you're hosed." He said non-standard, which granted is nebulous and could've been fleshed out. But you are just driven to find ways to say people are wrong. redeyes posted:If your computer has a non standard partition arrangement which means anything with more than a 100MB boot and then the system partition, the latest spring update WILL fail Don't argue with Fishmech.
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May 25, 2018 04:28
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Ghostlight posted:He qualifies "non standard" as being anything other than a stated specific configuration. Because Fishmech is literally insane and can't be reasoned with? I agree.
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May 25, 2018 04:32
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KillHour posted:You LITERALLY posted an image with a 100mb EFI partition. The OP specifically said this applies to systems with a partition bigger than that. No he didn't. He said a partition layout that wasn't just a 100 MB boot partition and the system partition. It is amazing how you refuse to read less than 50 words, and instead make something else up. Now let me remind you what's in my image: 4 partitions, one of them placed after the main system partition (which incidentally is laid out that way because this computer was previously set up for a dual boot configuration where that was necessary. This is different from what he said was the only working configuration. Now here's another computer I have on 1803 that had no problem installing, notice how the partition layout is completely different from both what he said, and from my previous laptop:
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May 25, 2018 04:38
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TYOOL 2018 and people are STILL arguing with Fishmech?
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Everyone who didn't understand the gist of redeyes' post because it wasn't laid out precisely enough or who chose to pick nits with it anyway say aye.fishmech posted:Aye. <plinkett>Ohh...</plinkett>
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KillHour posted:Because Fishmech is literally insane and can't be reasoned with? I agree.
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Ghostlight posted:Yes, but worse - they are technically correct. People keep saying that, but they're just really good at gaslighting.
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May 25, 2018 05:37
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I feel like I inhabit some alternate reality where Windows updates go smoothly, Windows never restarts without giving me adequate prompts, and where all the dumb ad poo poo is ignorable and not something that has to be dug out by the roots.
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May 25, 2018 06:34
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Don't worry, I also live in the Berenstain Bears reality.
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May 25, 2018 06:51
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TOOT BOOT posted:I feel like I inhabit some alternate reality where Windows updates go smoothly, Windows never restarts without giving me adequate prompts, and where all the dumb ad poo poo is ignorable and not something that has to be dug out by the roots. Same here. Also I uninstalled the candy crush stuff some number of updates ago and they've never come back.
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May 25, 2018 06:54
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Is there a way to show the system tray on all taskbars? Or have each taskbar only show the tasks for its monitor instead of all of them? Display Fusion can do this.
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TOOT BOOT posted:I feel like I inhabit some alternate reality where Windows updates go smoothly, Windows never restarts without giving me adequate prompts, and where all the dumb ad poo poo is ignorable and not something that has to be dug out by the roots. We live in the same world. The only system I have a level of issues with Windows 10 on is my 8" 32 GB Atom tablet, it came with Windows 8.0 originally and I'm pretty sure it's just the hardware that's starting to get bad after 4+ years.
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my 1803 update has been failing at 73% installed for the last two weeks or so and I have zero inclination of figuring out what the gently caress is wrong. I did some basic repair/dism thing and that didn't help so welp I guess my windows is now outdated forever
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Worse fates. Something is fucky and windows is crashing explorer upon login on every machine that hadn't updated to 1803 yet at my place, but doing the update fixes it.  i'm honestly in too lovely of a mood to care why
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TOOT BOOT posted:I feel like I inhabit some alternate reality where Windows updates go smoothly, Windows never restarts without giving me adequate prompts, and where all the dumb ad poo poo is ignorable and not something that has to be dug out by the roots. 
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