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nice four acts, buddy
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# ? May 25, 2018 06:23 |
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 21:05 |
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I've been workshopping this for a while in the discord and doing a test run this weekend. I think it might need some work, and I'll probably end up not using JP scroll in actual runs, if only for no other reason than having red mage and a priest or wizard at the same time can get immensely confusing under the rules I came up with. Not sure how I'm going to get through Miluda without a lot of grinding though.
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# ? May 25, 2018 06:45 |
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Can Of Worms posted:*crawls up from under the floorboards of the 2017 Fiesta thread*
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# ? May 25, 2018 06:51 |
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https://twitter.com/FF5ForFutures/status/999890844072136706 a slightly different hint
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# ? May 25, 2018 06:55 |
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Recommended: Fiesta Forbidden: Ivalice
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# ? May 25, 2018 07:00 |
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NGDBSS posted:Is that pretty much complete? Depending on my available time I might try showing it off to the LP Romhack thread before it expired again.
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# ? May 25, 2018 07:02 |
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agradine posted:Posting this link again: my compilation of the changes between the Mobile/Steam port and the GBA version: I'd like to add that Double Lance gets the Jump! double damage, putting it on par with the Chicken Knife for damage. And the buff to magic splitting makes reflecting off your party even more effective Thief owns because you get Dash all the time In general, anyone ask me about mobile, I've done all 11 of my Fiesta runs on mobile like a madman. I did 7 last year and plan on topping that.
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# ? May 25, 2018 07:29 |
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Nasgate posted:I'd like to add that Double Lance gets the Jump! double damage, putting it on par with the Chicken Knife for damage. As a side-bar, Holy Lance already out-damages Chicken Knife with Jump 90% of the time, and you practically get them at the same time. I think Dragoon might be the most pointless Chicken knife user.
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# ? May 25, 2018 08:30 |
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Pneub posted:As a side-bar, Holy Lance already out-damages Chicken Knife with Jump 90% of the time, and you practically get them at the same time. I think Dragoon might be the most pointless Chicken knife user. There are a few things you don't want to use Holy on, most notably the gargoyles guarding tablets. (Shinryu too, but if you're taking on Shinryu you're either farming Dragon Lances or berserking him and don't need strong weapons.)
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# ? May 25, 2018 10:08 |
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Pneub posted:As a side-bar, Holy Lance already out-damages Chicken Knife with Jump 90% of the time, and you practically get them at the same time. I think Dragoon might be the most pointless Chicken knife user. I'm Talking about thief. You can't use Twin Lance on Dragoon. Though I will say that a Dragoon with mug and CK is better for random encounters than Holy Lance just because it kills an enemy quicker than jumping. Edit: Also I just looked at my run and the other classes were White and Black mage, so Goon did the most CK damage by a large margin Nasgate fucked around with this message at 10:33 on May 25, 2018 |
# ? May 25, 2018 10:30 |
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Awww yeah
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# ? May 25, 2018 12:40 |
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Aww poo poo, it's almost that time again...
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# ? May 25, 2018 12:51 |
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I was wondering where this topic was when I checked like, 2 weeks ago, I coulda sworn you usually posted them earlier than this. Once again stoked for the fiesta, I'll try to keep my inane rambling to a minimum this year (can't guarantee it though!)
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# ? May 25, 2018 14:09 |
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Bufuman posted:I was wondering where this topic was when I checked like, 2 weeks ago, I coulda sworn you usually posted them earlier than this. Yeah, I've been slammed with starting a new job, and it was also to head off the usual issues of it being like a month before pre-reg when I post a topic and people just sorta "well now what"-ing.
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# ? May 25, 2018 14:37 |
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Nasgate posted:I'd like to add that Double Lance gets the Jump! double damage, putting it on par with the Chicken Knife for damage. I am another person who has only ever played the game (and done now 17 FJF runs over three years) on my iPhone. And yes, Thief jumps up two full tiers in the Matrix versions for dash and for being able to auto-battle Flee, which is the only good way (along with Smoke) to grind out the Chicken Knife and which will speed up your runs by a power of ten. Having a Thief or Ninja really, really helps a Matrix version run.
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# ? May 25, 2018 16:20 |
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Nasgate posted:I'd like to add that Double Lance gets the Jump! double damage, putting it on par with the Chicken Knife for damage. My understanding is that this has always been true about the Double Lance. If memory serves me, I think the Man Eater too? The difference in the Mobile version is that the Double Lance procs twice with attack abilities (like !Dance or !Jump)
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# ? May 25, 2018 17:02 |
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agradine posted:My understanding is that this has always been true about the Double Lance. If memory serves me, I think the Man Eater too? Yeah, both the Double Lance and the Man Eater are coded to use the Spear formula for their damage calculations, including the bonus to damage from !Jump.
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# ? May 25, 2018 18:58 |
When people refer to the Thief's Dash, are you talking about auto running on the field instead of holding a button? The GBA version has that too. Not to mention that you can fast forward through your running battles to speed up CK powering way faster than the mobile version.
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# ? May 25, 2018 22:31 |
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Yes but you cannot fast forward the mobile version, thus setting Flee (or Smoke) to auto-battle is the only reasonable way to power up the Chicken Knife. Honestly in three years I've probably fully powered up the CK maybe three times.
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# ? May 25, 2018 23:42 |
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OzFactor posted:Yes but you cannot fast forward the mobile version, thus setting Flee (or Smoke) to auto-battle is the only reasonable way to power up the Chicken Knife. Honestly in three years I've probably fully powered up the CK maybe three times. Ive been lucky to get thief pretty much all the time. Especially with getting bm/goon so i could hold a sand bear in place and steal the 4th best spear before beating w1 Similarly thief+zerk for an early gaia hammer.
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# ? May 25, 2018 23:47 |
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Nasgate posted:Ive been lucky to get thief pretty much all the time. Especially with getting bm/goon so i could hold a sand bear in place and steal the 4th best spear before beating w1 And man does having a Thief make having a Dancer tolerable in W2 (tiaras in the Ruins). Thieves are great! They make everyone better!
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# ? May 25, 2018 23:51 |
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Thief is in the same boat as White Mage and Bard, solid support character but complete crap by themselves until late game. But that’s why you get three other jobs! Of course, now I’m picturing a Thief/WM/Bard/Geo run...
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# ? May 25, 2018 23:55 |
Mega64 posted:Thief is in the same boat as White Mage and Bard, solid support character but complete crap by themselves until late game. Nonsense! You have a Thief with !Mug and Chicken Knife, a Bard to make everyone a badass and... and two healers.
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# ? May 25, 2018 23:58 |
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Powering up the Chicken Knife isn't that bad (I play on the SFC version w/translation patch), especially if you're avoiding most random encounters outside of specific grind spots. If you really want to power it up fast you can just use the goblin-in-a-box in the tutorial house.
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# ? May 26, 2018 00:00 |
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OzFactor posted:Yes but you cannot fast forward the mobile version, thus setting Flee (or Smoke) to auto-battle is the only reasonable way to power up the Chicken Knife. Honestly in three years I've probably fully powered up the CK maybe three times. I've found the auto-battle to be sufficiently fast enough to grind out the CK runs, especially if I'm watching/listening to something else at the same time.
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# ? May 26, 2018 00:00 |
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Just lol if your chicken knife isn't already at full power by the time you pick it up.
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# ? May 26, 2018 00:04 |
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Yeah, Thief is a great quality of life class. Immunity to back attacks, the ability to just "nope" the gently caress out of bad random encounters, plus all the useful crap you can steal way ahead of the power curve, like farming free hi-potions on the Fire Ship when they're not available in stores until you get to the second world... and worst comes to worst, !Mug lets you shank fools in the face with the Chicken Knife without worry. If you have a good deal of familiarity with the game, Thief is legitimately one of the best jobs you can pull for the Fiesta.
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# ? May 26, 2018 00:05 |
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Mega64 posted:Thief is in the same boat as White Mage and Bard, solid support character but complete crap by themselves until late game. That sounds like a great job roll.
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# ? May 26, 2018 00:08 |
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Nonsense! You have a Thief with !Mug and Chicken Knife, a Bard to make everyone a badass and... and two healers. Yeah, in World 3. What about Soul Cannon? Or Atomos? Or hell, Adamantoise?
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# ? May 26, 2018 00:08 |
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Mega64 posted:Yeah, in World 3. eh, you got a white mage. you'll live.
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# ? May 26, 2018 00:10 |
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Thieves aren't useless, but I would still put them in the bottom five easily when it comes to usefulness in combat. Dancer is way better as a Chicken Knife wielder. If it wasn't for stealing Ninja would almost be strictly better as a class.
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# ? May 26, 2018 00:11 |
Mega64 posted:Yeah, in World 3. We're having dual conversations here and Discord. I'll give the same answer I gave there:
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# ? May 26, 2018 00:12 |
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Nonsense! You have a Thief with !Mug and Chicken Knife, a Bard to make everyone a badass and... and two healers. e: NM, misread the party suggestion
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# ? May 26, 2018 00:13 |
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You know your party is bad when overall things will be easier swapping a Red Mage in for a White. e:VVVVVV In non-Matrix FFV, the Chicken Knife is fully powered up after 254 escapes, so if you require more than that they changed the formula. FreeKillB fucked around with this message at 00:28 on May 26, 2018 |
# ? May 26, 2018 00:16 |
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Cattail Prophet posted:Just lol if your chicken knife isn't already at full power by the time you pick it up. You know, this isn't the first time I've seen this comment in these threads over the years, and it makes me wonder if a) the encounter rate is significantly lower in the Matrix versions, or b) the calculation for the Chicken Knife is different. Because I have never gotten to the CK with it even remotely close to full power, and I almost never fight anything unless I'm grinding.
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# ? May 26, 2018 00:23 |
I think the best I managed was about half power, when I had a team that wasn't conducive to random battles.
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# ? May 26, 2018 00:25 |
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I think the only time I did was last year with Thief Tri-zerker party. Other times I'm fighting what I come across with a few exceptions.
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# ? May 26, 2018 04:15 |
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Mega64 posted:Yeah, in World 3. Matrix Geo makes Adamantoise a joke. Bard can sleep harp Atomos iirc. Soul cannon would indeed be rather unfun.
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# ? May 26, 2018 04:28 |
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Nasgate posted:Bard can sleep harp Atomos iirc. Atomos is heavy, so no.
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# ? May 26, 2018 04:55 |
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Kyrosiris posted:Atomos is heavy, so no. .dd "Is Atomos fukkin heavy or something?"
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# ? May 26, 2018 05:19 |