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I never inferred anything specific from their divorce. It could've been cheating. It could've been anything. Arnett deals with alcoholism. Poehler opened up about substance abuse in her memoir. I imagine it was just messy and toxic overall, especially given that both have been kind to each other in the press since. It sounds like Arnett has made good strides based on interviews he's given for Flaked and BoJack. Those talks reveal that he was a real poo poo in the past, though.
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It just sounds like a divorce.
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FactsAreUseless posted:It just sounds like a divorce.
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# ? May 25, 2018 21:00 |
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Yeah I don’t know how anyone could look at Arnett’s body of work outside of AD and not just blankety assume he’s got some serious self-worth issues to work through. But I also think Bojack Horseman is the funniest and most important TV show since Arrested Development. Amy Poehler wrote a book about marriage and relationships and she had a passage about maintenance sex being an important tool in a married person’s repertoire and that really cemented the idea in my head that she was probably a very smart lady but with some stuff going on, and according to her neighbors she sucked to live next door to.
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# ? May 25, 2018 21:26 |
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Bust Rodd posted:I doubt there is anything left to film since the show already wrapped for cast back in november What the gently caress.
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# ? May 26, 2018 00:50 |
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CharlestheHammer posted:What the gently caress. I guess some people don't make personal judgments about the character of people they have never met and know nothing about? crazy
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# ? May 26, 2018 02:31 |
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FactsAreUseless posted:It just sounds like a divorce. Sealed the deal
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# ? May 26, 2018 02:39 |
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Did they even sonsummate the marriage?
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# ? May 26, 2018 02:46 |
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People can have a bad relationship and need a divorce without necessarily having done something specifically evil to each other, and I am not comfortable with all this speculation, sans evidence, about what that evil thing could be.
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# ? May 26, 2018 03:38 |
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Wandle Cax posted:I guess some people don't make personal judgments about the character of people they have never met and know nothing about? crazy I don’t think that actually happens no. Hell the person wasn’t even arguing that. But nice attempt at a burn I guess
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# ? May 26, 2018 09:25 |
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Chairman Capone posted:Did they even sonsummate the marriage? Narrator: They hadn't.
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# ? May 26, 2018 10:38 |
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I hosed my wife!......'s friend.
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# ? May 26, 2018 13:08 |
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Golden Bee posted:
I dont think its actually spelled out in the original cut either.
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# ? May 26, 2018 14:40 |
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It’s very explicitly stated in George Sr.’s last episode
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# ? May 26, 2018 14:41 |
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CharlestheHammer posted:I don’t think that actually happens no. Then why did you reply "What the gently caress." to a reasonable post about not judging a relationship that we don't know anything about? Bust Rodd posted:Amy Poehler wrote a book about marriage and relationships and she had a passage about maintenance sex being an important tool in a married persons repertoire and that really cemented the idea in my head that she was probably a very smart lady but with some stuff going on, and according to her neighbors she sucked to live next door to. I'm curious about this now. Why did she suck to live next door to?
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Phenotype posted:Then why did you reply "What the gently caress." to a reasonable post about not judging a relationship that we don't know anything about? Because the content was insanely hosed up
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# ? May 26, 2018 21:41 |
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CharlestheHammer posted:Because the content was insanely hosed up Baby... Who hurt you?
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# ? May 27, 2018 16:06 |
Not sure whether to be looking forward to S5 or not, but I'm doing a mini-rewatch anyway and ... boy, this was never what you'd call a "woke" show, was it. The very first episode is a great big gay panic joke. All of S1 took place before anyone started talking about prison rape being a problematic subject. I'm three episodes into S4 remix and the entire India sequence is a bunch of jokes about overpopulation. I don't know what I expected.
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# ? May 27, 2018 20:35 |
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I remember watching the first three seasons at the time, I felt like the show's tone was something like the mythical 'moderate Republican' who was against George W. Bush but not on the left. Michael in particular always came across as like a McCain/Romney type. The only 'liberal' character on the show was Lindsey and her being a liberal stereotype was her whole point. That being said I do think the first three seasons were pretty clearly a big critique of the Bush family/admin.
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# ? May 27, 2018 20:48 |
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Chairman Capone posted:I remember watching the first three seasons at the time, I felt like the show's tone was something like the mythical 'moderate Republican' who was against George W. Bush but not on the left. Michael in particular always came across as like a McCain/Romney type. The only 'liberal' character on the show was Lindsey and her being a liberal stereotype was her whole point. Lindsay wasn't even a true liberal per se, she just adopted liberal causes for appearance's sake and then abandoned them as soon as they presented even a minor inconvenience. They should have her as the Ivanka analogue this season, instead of using her to riff on Trump.
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# ? May 27, 2018 21:12 |
Exactly, she was the "limousine liberal" stereotype that conservatives think all of Hollywood is made up of. Airheaded actressy bimbos who wear PETA t-shirts and who think "wetlands" are worth saving but call it a "swamp" and you can bulldoze it to build tract houses. Though watching S4 I don't see any of that left in her. On her own and seeking personal meaning she's so tiresome. I hope S5 finds more "look I know you got a crocodile in spelling" moments, even if she's hardly in it. Data Graham fucked around with this message at 21:43 on May 27, 2018 |
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# ? May 27, 2018 21:39 |
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This show has never been very "woke" and by today's standards it is pretty horribly offensive to many. I would imagine even more so to someone who watches for the first time who was a kid in 2003 but an adult now. A lot of the people who latched onto it as smart, funny tv in the past 15 years have changed a lot and their attitudes towards what they find acceptable in entertainment has changed. The show lost a lot of viewers just for keeping Tambor after what happened with Transparent, the interview only exacerbated it, and I imagine many more will reject it now as well as reevaluate the early seasons as being problematic. I can't see it garnering many new viewers among younger people, so the question will be who will remain that was a fan who will stay on for the ride? I think with all the negative press, and probably some outright appeals to boycott, there won't be a Season 6.
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# ? May 27, 2018 21:56 |
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Not sure there will be a season 6 either, but the show always thrived on being slightly offensive and boundary-pushing wrt sexuality. Jokes like that exist, but largely (of course, not always), the show doesn't punch down or make other groups out to be inferior or anything like that - the main cast being the most offensive people by far. I just started watching Always Sunny from the beginning a while back and that show is arguably way more offensive than AD at its worst, especially with regards to transgendered people. Later on they lean more into it and it becomes part of the shows makeup, but in the early seasons it gets pretty rough with a lot of offensive jokes that are neither smart nor funny. Obviously many things about AD haven't aged well, but I think retroactively trying to position it as a worse show than it is just because the cast is stupid is maybe not fair. Generally speaking it's not that big a victim in my opinion, especially considering it was way ahead of its time in many other respects. Hakkesshu fucked around with this message at 22:14 on May 27, 2018 |
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Hakkesshu posted:Not sure there will be a season 6 either, but the show always thrived on being slightly offensive and boundary-pushing. Jokes like that exist, but largely (of course, not always), the show doesn't punch down or make other groups out to be inferior or anything like that - the main cast being the most offensive people by far. I guess, but that's what people said about South Park, and for similar reasons South Park is not the paragon of comedy it once was, even retrospectively.
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# ? May 27, 2018 22:12 |
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Data Graham posted:I guess, but that's what people said about South Park, and for similar reasons South Park is not the paragon of comedy it once was, even retrospectively. I wouldn't say that about South Park at all. That show often tried to play the "I hate everyone equally" card which for drat sure has not aged well.
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# ? May 27, 2018 22:14 |
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South Park had always been a oval office show made by cunts for cunts.
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# ? May 27, 2018 22:16 |
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Netflix has canceled all further press and promotional interviews for Season 5.
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# ? May 28, 2018 00:37 |
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"I've made a huge mistake"
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# ? May 28, 2018 00:40 |
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The racism has always be firmly grounded in making the Bluth’s look bad and ignorant, but the homophobic themes and trans-jokes have always been somewhat mean-spirited in a very sit-comy way. That’s why the Loophole joke is so weird. It just a stereotype gag performed by 3 Asian people for seemingly no comedic value.
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# ? May 28, 2018 00:52 |
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Timby posted:Netflix has canceled all further press and promotional interviews for Season 5. I'd say it's DOA now. They won't promote it, but it's already made and ratings aren't a concern so they might as well have it available to consume. But they won't count on it to bring in more subscribers. It won't matter much anyway, since it's being released at he same time as Kimmy Schmidt so they're just as much like to gain and retain subs for that with smart comedy fans.
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# ? May 28, 2018 03:48 |
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It's funny that the actors have talked about the wall jokes in season 4 aging badly, because that's actually prescient. That makes the writers look savvy, for summing up American racism in a way that would come to be exactly reflected by a real politician. The jokes that have aged horrendously are the cracks at LGBT people. There's something very 2000s about that aspect of the show, wherein the writers were ostensibly not anti-gay on a political level, but hadn't yet learned to cut the poo poo with the insults and stereotypes. See also: Jon Stewart.
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Supercar Gautier posted:The jokes that have aged horrendously are the cracks at LGBT people. There's something very 2000s about that aspect of the show, wherein the writers were ostensibly not anti-gay on a political level, but hadn't yet learned to cut the poo poo with the insults and stereotypes. See also: Jon Stewart. Back in 1996-2000 I was partly responsible for a niche gay comic series that was just jam-packed full of various stereotypes straight out of central casting. The rationale at the time, even as someone from the "target audience" as it were, was that we had to "poke fun at ourselves" in order to appear less serious and humorless and thus avoid putting potentially unsympathetic audiences on their guard. Like, trying to defuse inbound mockery and insults by heading them off, flouncing and lisping and all the like—because if we didn't "own" that behavior it would just be used against us, whether as parody or outright defamation. Looking back at it recently it was shocking to see how out-of-place it would look if it had been published new today, and how horribly it would have gone over, not only with the target audience but by the larger populace who might run into it. Patronizing, reductive, pandering... sort of a minstrel show. It's interesting seeing those same patterns happening in other genres. I like to think that it means this kind of evolution is sort of a social inevitability, and that other similar evolutions can tell us where to expect it to go.
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# ? May 28, 2018 05:27 |
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Even ignoring all of the underlying homophobia, transphobia and able-ism in the show, it's weird how they pick certain characters to act as punching bags - almost always women. Just in season 4 Ann and DeBrie come across as particularly mean spirited.
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# ? May 28, 2018 07:50 |
Steve2911 posted:Even ignoring all of the underlying homophobia, transphobia and able-ism in the show, it's weird how they pick certain characters to act as punching bags - almost always women. Just in season 4 Ann and DeBrie come across as particularly mean spirited. Gob is a punching bag too, though a much more deserving one.
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# ? May 28, 2018 08:35 |
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Lol I like how everyone became pussies since 2004. It’s a comedy show not a documentary.
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# ? May 28, 2018 12:31 |
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What time does new content usually drop?
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# ? May 29, 2018 00:46 |
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Midnight pacific time.
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# ? May 29, 2018 00:49 |
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Empress Brosephine posted:Lol I like how everyone became pussies since 2004. It’s a comedy show not a documentary.
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# ? May 29, 2018 01:16 |
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It's after midnight on the East Coast. Where's the show about the terrible people played by mostly terrible people?
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# ? May 29, 2018 05:23 |
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LividLiquid posted:It's after midnight on the East Coast. Where's the show about the terrible people played by mostly terrible people? Netflix and Hulu shows typically upload at 3 AM EST, midnight Pacific.
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